Mango Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 Totally agree, I thought how are we the only team to panic and grab a third round project. I'm so frickin sick of Nix I can't even stand it. How many drafts is the guy going F up before they show him the door, the only good he has ever done is find practice squad lineman. How in the hell do you reach for a guy with potential in the first round, you draft those guys later and hope they pan out. If we wanted potential we could have drafted the best arm in Tyler Bray in the third and development. Why the hell didn't we take Tyler Eifert or just stay at 8 and draft Austin Nix has to GO! Other than the TJ graham pick. What other picks where real head scratchers for you?
OCinBuffalo Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) 1) Yes, most folks think the Jags will pick up a QB...maybe with their next pic....the first pick as the draft starts back up tonight.....maybe not. But Gabbard will definitely be in the competition for the starting job. With their RG #1, the line will be better, and as anyone knows, QBs need a good line to have any success at all. so the Jags area, much like the Philly area, has every reason to disparage us, for taking the guy they were going to take, or, they have every reason to keep talking smack about all the QBs...because they don't want people to take one. This is the nutty season in the NFL. I don't care what anybody says until 2 weeks after the draft. 2) Nothing to be suspicious about. The point was that they've seen the guy play, week after week (well, whenever he has played). Diehard FSU fans have been calling in all morning laughing at the Bills for picking him...THEY know, THEY have watched his every play. Horsecrap. We caught a DC reporter purposely trying to tamper with Aaron Schobel, and his excuse was "i will lose access if I don't go along with certain stories the Redskins want out there". So spare me. Most of the sports media are worse then the political media in that regard. I will be plenty suspicious, especially when a media guy is trying to get in with a new GM. EDIT: Rememeber the Saints "we would have traded for Marshawn Lynch but the Bills wouldn't listen" story, right after he gashed them? Where did that "story" come from? How many diehard Bills fans had something nice to say about Frank Reich/Doug Flutie/Drew Bledsoe after they left Buffalo? Or Jim Kelly for that matter? Does that mean that none of those guys ever did anything good/never won games? 3) Umm, the Jax area media did indeed laugh at Tebow. Sure they like the guy as a person and what he stands for (who doesn't?), but they're smart enough to realize "he is what he is." Nah, see, now it there Did they laugh at Tebow, BEFORE he played a down in Denver? Sorry, I'm still reading all the "Bills like Barkley" and "Bills like Nassib" and "Buddy likes Glennon" expert opinions. What were you saying again? Oh I don't know, perhaps you should read the bolded headline that is right in front of your nose. Or, you can make use of...google. Edited April 26, 2013 by OCinBuffalo
K D Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 I was doing a dance when we traded down. Great move and it also kept Tavon Austin out of Jets uniform. One of my favorite moves in a long time! Then having every QB still on the board, everything was going our way. But when they said EJ I was like woah. I stood up and just stood there for a second like wtf just happened. That seemed to come out of nowhere. I can certainly see the upside. This guy is very athletic but at the same time very raw. But if that's who they wanted after evaluating everyone then fine. I think it says a lot about the kind of offense they want to run. So I'm still kind of in shock. But if they got their guy then good. I would be a lot more happy today if they traded down 1 more time and got San Fran's 1st and 2nd rounder for example. Nobody from 17-32 was picking a QB. With Eiffert still out there and a few of the D lineman, I would have thought our pick was valuable but maybe nobody was all that interested in trading down who knows. Would love to hear more on why they didn't trade down one more time. Seemed like a no brainer. But if they got their guy then good, they have no excuses now. If he doesn't pan out then everyone gets fired. I guess we'll see...
Doc Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 Panicked? LMMFAO! Now Ideally I was hoping for another trade down a few spots, but I'd bet no one wanted to trade into the 16 spot, and trading down to 25 (Seahawks), 30 (Falcons) or 31 (49'ers) would have been a major risk. So they got an extra 2nd, 7th, and swapped 3rd's, and got the QB they wanted, and he'll likely get a 4-year $9.3M deal. Sounds good to me.
Nyghtewynd Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 O/U on games Manuel starts: 20. It should be less, but it'll be over because the Bills braintrust will throw away games in order to prove how smart they are. Worst draft pick in Bills history, and that's saying something.
CodeMonkey Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 I like this pick. He might, but does not have to start right away. He also has the best arm strength of all the QBs touted as possible 1st-rounders. I watched a presser shortly after the pick with Nix and Marrone and they both were saying they saw Manuel as somewhat of a project. Nix even used that word once. Statements like "plenty of things to correct", but also "has all the tools". They played it perfectly. Got the guy they wanted and picked up an extra 2nd as well.
machine gun kelly Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 I like it. Manuel was who I wanted and have stated in multiple posts. He'll need to develop and I don't expect him to start week 1. Kolb will kolb and play ok for a few weeks, hold onto the ball too long and get hurt. EJ Manuel will get some time to get used to the NFL, and hopefully be the next Kaperneck. Now we need some serious weapons with the two 2nd round picks. I'm hoping we go for the big receiver and tight end in round 2. We can pick up a CB in round 3 and a guard in the 4th. This could be one he'll of a draft.
Storm Front Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 He took the third-best quarterback who's a third round talent. There has never been a more Buffalo Bills pick than this. Great job, moron. This pick may ultimately be worse than Aaron Maybin in the first round. In a few years Manuel's name will probably be listed on the Sporting News' list of biggest 1st round draft busts right under JaMarcus Russell.
Max997 Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 I dont love or hate this pick he is an athletic big QB with a strong arm which I like i probably would have hated this pick if they took him at 8 though
offsides#76FredSmerlas Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 All of these people on this board moaning and groaning. You can't say it was a good draft or a bad draft until you see the guys perform. Personally I love the pick and this is who I wanted but I can't say it was the right pick until we see the product play. I know this though; I'm excited!
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 As previously stated by someone on TSW: @AlbertBreer Conversely, the Bills-Rams trade was remarkably even by the value chart ... Bills' haul equaled 1,642.6 points, Rams' was 1,635.
Beerball Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 Seriously?? I didn't know he was #78's Godson. I am impressed with his statements after the pick...saying he was "excited to be a Buffalo Bill and wants to get to work"...that is great. I was disappointed at first, but this kid really is special based on what you guys have said and what I've seen. Screw Mayock who said this is a "wasted pick"...I like it. These experts don't know squat. Welcome to Buffalo EJ!!!! I could be wrong, but to me it sounded like he said "He's (Smith) like a Godfather to me."
Garranimal Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 You should be banned for this post. Obvious troll. Why because you think your opinion trumps mine? I think Tebow is a better QB right now and at the time of drafting versus EJ "I-was-happy-to-beat-Wake Forest-Finally" Manuel. I am sorry if my opinion doesn't please you....oh wait, on second thought, i don't give a rats ass.
GG Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) I Except that the available talent at #16 was not that much greater than what can be had at #41. This is a very deep draft with few blue chippers, and I bet most of the special guys Bills would have coveted at #8 were already gone. Other than a QB at #16, I wasn't particularly impressed with the remaining pass rushers. At LB, my bet is that Bills sign Dansby today as he's a better option that what was available at #16. I'm guessing the only player I would pick over a QB at #16 would have been Eifert, but then Bills would be gambling that by #41, they could be down to the third or fourth option for the QB, and they may think the drop off in ceiling for this year's class is huge. Thus, take the project QB, and use the two #2s to fill out the holes with players who are just marginally worse than the guys picked between 16 & 41. This was a far from a panic move. You may not like the selection, but there's definite logic in why they made the pick. Edited April 26, 2013 by Beerball
Gordio Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 Jacksonville, Philly, Arizona, Jets, and Tenn all pick before the Bills in the 2nd round. I think Philly coveted him because Chip Kelly tried to recruit him in college.So the Bills would have most likely missed on EJ if they had waited till the 2nd round. However, I also think the Bills took him too early and could have traded back some more, to the top of the first round perhaps, as they have so many other holes to fill. I would of liked to see them trade back one more time too to get another 2nd round pick. But one thing you have to give the Bills credit for. They got extra picks & nobody can say they did not get the QB they wanted. As far as manuel I don't know. He seems like a good kid, good intangibles & probably has the most potential. Potential gets quite a few coaches fired. I would of took Barkley.
machine gun kelly Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 Like it. Someone earlier stated, but let' get him a WR, TE in the second, and a Guard later in the draft. Can't you just see him in the pistol with Spiller. CJ is going to rack up some serious yards this year as they can't just key in on him.
Endless Ike Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 Don't think it was panicked; do think it was an atrocious pick. EJ Manuel is a project, and you don't draft projects in the first round when you have as many holes as we do. Book it. Jarvis Jones is going to be a MAN, and in 3 years we'll all be laughing, "remember when we picked EJ Manuel and could had Jarvis, at a position of need? Ohhhh, Buffalo Bills, you irascible scamps!"
26CornerBlitz Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) @smartfootball Manuel has as much upside as any QB in this draft. Bills obviously focused on that. @smartfootball Intriguing aspect of Bills/Marrone picking EJ Manuel is Marrone dabbled in zone read game at Syracuse in 2012. Obviously wanted those skills Edited April 26, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz
billsrcursed Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 Why because you think your opinion trumps mine? I think Tebow is a better QB right now and at the time of drafting versus EJ "I-was-happy-to-beat-Wake Forest-Finally" Manuel. I am sorry if my opinion doesn't please you....oh wait, on second thought, i don't give a rats ass. Apology accepted. Also, good luck with the Tebow crush, Obvious Gator Fan.
Golden Wheels Posted April 26, 2013 Posted April 26, 2013 Judging by the laughs I've heard from Patriots fans this morning, I'd say our AFC East foes are thrilled with this pick. Really. Keep drinking the Kool Aid y'all. Bless your hearts.
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