QB Wonderlic Scores

[Virgil]

To do with what you wish:

 

 

Current Rookie Class

1. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse 41

2. Matt Barkley, USC 30

3. E. J. Manuel, Florida State 28

3. Landry Jones, Oklahoma 28

5. Mike Glennon, N.C. State 26

6. Tyler Bray, Tennessee 24

6. Geno Smith, West Virginia 24

6. Zac Dysert, Miami (Ohio) 24

9. Matt Scott, Arizona 22

10. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas 20

 

Rookies from past few years

Greg McElroy, Alabama- 43

Blaine Gabbert, Missouri- 42

Colin Kaepernick, Nevada- 37

Christian Ponder, Florida State- 35

Ricky Stanzi, Iowa- 30

Andy Dalton, TCU- 29

Ryan Mallett, Arkansas- 26

Cam Newton, Auburn- 21

Jake Locker, Washington- 20

 

2012 Rookie Class

Andrew Luck, Stanford- 37

Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M- 34

Kirk Cousins, Michigan State- 33

Russell Wilson, Wisconsin- 28

Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State- 27

Kellen Moore, Boise State- 26

Brock Osweiler, Arizona State- 25

Robert Griffin III, Baylor- 24

 

Current NFL QB Stars

Eli Manning, Ole Miss 39

Aaron Rodgers, Cal 35

Tom Brady, Michigan 33

Peyton Manning, Tennessee 28

Drew Brees, Purdue 28

Joe Flacco, Delaware 27

Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (Ohio) 25

[Pete]

41 is pretty damn good.

[San Jose Bills Fan]

41 is pretty damn good.

 

And equally meaningless.

[bowery4]

Funny, I sort of like 4 out of the top 5 as picks for the Bills and it had nothing to do with the wonderlic.

[NoSaint]

20 is average for the general population, qbs a couple points above that

 

Always nice to see a good one but ultimately all these guys "passed the test." No numbers here that make you want to really ask what's going on and that's really what it's all about - do these numbers line up with expectations or do we need to dig deeper

[habes1280]

20 is average for the general population, qbs a couple points above that

 

Always nice to see a good one but ultimately all these guys "passed the test." No numbers here that make you want to really ask what's going on and that's really what it's all about - do these numbers line up with expectations or do we need to dig deeper

 

In fairness-- and with some cynicism sprinkled it-- most of the general population aren't coached on how to take the Wonderlic and drilled on the types of questions that are asked. Scoring extremely well is still a modest accomplishment, but it means a lot less than scoring poorly.

[Thirty Year Fan]

In fairness-- and with some cynicism sprinkled it-- most of the general population aren't coached on how to take the Wonderlic and drilled on the types of questions that are asked. Scoring extremely well is still a modest accomplishment, but it means a lot less than scoring poorly.

Great post!

[CSBill]

In fairness-- and with some cynicism sprinkled it-- most of the general population aren't coached on how to take the Wonderlic and drilled on the types of questions that are asked. Scoring extremely well is still a modest accomplishment, but it means a lot less than scoring poorly.

 

great point, but also a nice sign that what appears to be our top three choices are the top three.

[zonabb]

If its coached, why don't they all score well? If its meaningless, why do they still use it? If you're a QB what's your incentive to half-ass it? The answers....

 

1) because some of these guys aren't that smart nor can they learn. Thats pretty important for a QB.

 

2) It's a way to contextualize players and rank them. It might not be he greatest testing instrument according to all the educational research academics on this board or academia in general but when give to a sample population, it provides a means to test them all the same.

 

3) If your a QB you want to do as well as possible, not caring and screwing off on it can be disasterous financially and might cost you a chance to go to a team that needs a QB who drafts you in the 3rd and had a starter.

 

The bottomline I've harped over and over with those who want to dismiss this thing, in the words of a comic, you can't fix stupid. Stupid downs work under center and grades and GPAs for athletes in many cases are questionable. But most importantly, there is a high positive correlation between Super Bowl wins and reported Wonderlics. I've run the analysis. You don't win Super Bowls with sub 21 scores. Sure you might get to the playoffs, because by default 12 QBs make it, but if a true franchise QB is what you want and a Super Bowl is the goal, this test is a true indicator!

 

 

[Cash]

20 is average for the general population, qbs a couple points above that

 

Always nice to see a good one but ultimately all these guys "passed the test." No numbers here that make you want to really ask what's going on and that's really what it's all about - do these numbers line up with expectations or do we need to dig deeper

 

Agreed. A very low score can be a red flag. Above a 20-or-so threshold, a higher score is a nice to have, but it doesn't really matter.

 

If its coached, why don't they all score well? If its meaningless, why do they still use it? If you're a QB what's your incentive to half-ass it? The answers....

 

1) because some of these guys aren't that smart nor can they learn. Thats pretty important for a QB.

 

The other factor is that some agents have copies of the test that they give to their clients in advance of the combine, and some don't. At least, that's what I've read. It's kind of surprising that ALL the agents don't have it at this point, but maybe some just don't think it's important enough or that teams weigh it heavy enough?

 

2) It's a way to contextualize players and rank them. It might not be he greatest testing instrument according to all the educational research academics on this board or academia in general but when give to a sample population, it provides a means to test them all the same.

 

3) If your a QB you want to do as well as possible, not caring and screwing off on it can be disasterous financially and might cost you a chance to go to a team that needs a QB who drafts you in the 3rd and had a starter.

 

The bottomline I've harped over and over with those who want to dismiss this thing, in the words of a comic, you can't fix stupid. Stupid downs work under center and grades and GPAs for athletes in many cases are questionable. But most importantly, there is a high positive correlation between Super Bowl wins and reported Wonderlics. I've run the analysis. You don't win Super Bowls with sub 21 scores. Sure you might get to the playoffs, because by default 12 QBs make it, but if a true franchise QB is what you want and a Super Bowl is the goal, this test is a true indicator!

[Canadian Bills Fan]

They should make tests similar to the wonderlic designed for each position that are geared towards the NFL.

 

Something that would test their ability to identify and point out key things that are important to their position

 

CBF

[DDD]

Wonderlic scores have no merit and are a poor predictor as to how a QB will perform in the NFL.

Sincerely,

Vince Young

[ny33]

Wonderlic scores have no merit and are a poor predictor as to how a QB will perform in the NFL.

Sincerely,

Vince Young

 

McNabb and Marino are snickering.

[bigK14094]

Fitz had a 48, look what that got us.

[Mr. WEO]

If its coached, why don't they all score well? If its meaningless, why do they still use it? If you're a QB what's your incentive to half-ass it? The answers....

 

1) because some of these guys aren't that smart nor can they learn. Thats pretty important for a QB.

 

2) It's a way to contextualize players and rank them. It might not be he greatest testing instrument according to all the educational research academics on this board or academia in general but when give to a sample population, it provides a means to test them all the same.

 

3) If your a QB you want to do as well as possible, not caring and screwing off on it can be disasterous financially and might cost you a chance to go to a team that needs a QB who drafts you in the 3rd and had a starter.

 

The bottomline I've harped over and over with those who want to dismiss this thing, in the words of a comic, you can't fix stupid. Stupid downs work under center and grades and GPAs for athletes in many cases are questionable. But most importantly, there is a high positive correlation between Super Bowl wins and reported Wonderlics. I've run the analysis. You don't win Super Bowls with sub 21 scores. Sure you might get to the playoffs, because by default 12 QBs make it, but if a true franchise QB is what you want and a Super Bowl is the goal, this test is a true indicator!

 

Marino, Kelly and Bradshaw all got 15. They colectively went to the SB 9 times, 4 wins. All in the HOF.

 

And what does "stupid downs work under center" mean?

[Florida Gator 14]

41 is pretty damn good.

 

Not surprised he did well, this video kind of tells all about Nassib. It also suggests he's a workaholic in the class room. It's also nice to watch because the reporter is very easy on the eyes!! Haha