Mango Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised if none of the QB needy teams grab one at their original pick let alone in the first. I am thinking the top 10 picks are looking for top 10 talent, and will look for QB's later on. Don't be surprised to see a lot of movement between those teams in the top of the 2nd and bottom of the 1st. I think a trade up to get ahead of those teams is pretty likely
Kirby Jackson Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I just got out of an interesting meeting with some guys that lets just say are fairly familar with the Bills. Out of the one gentlemens mouth & I quote "There is a real power struggle going on, Marrone wants his boy Nassib, Buddy is really bit in the ass over (wait for several posters to jump off the bridge) Landry Jones." I can't see them taking Jones with a 1st round pick(doesn't he have a 3rd round grade) Maybe Nix will take Jones with our 2nd & take Millner/Austin/one of the LBs with our first round pick. Take it for what it is worth, which is not a hell of alot. Just thought I would share. Interesting stuff thats for sure!! I think that when talking about a trade down there are a few players that we are going to want to see 1 (or hopefully more) of on the board at 8. Dee Milner, Star Lotulelei Lane Johnson (assuming that the other 2 tackles are gone) and Tavon Austin. These are the players that teams might trade up for if on the board.
Gordio Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Not sure about Jones either way. But it's very, very easy to imagine a heated, even nasty power struggle between GM and coach, especially an offensive minded coach, on a QB in this draft. In this case, exponentially more likely because of the Marrone familiarity and the lame duck GM whose legacy is highly likely to be directly connected to this draft and the QB he takes. The chances of the powers that be not agreeing is huge. And Nix on his way out adds to the issue tremendously. Thx for posting that. No problem. I am not sure what I think of Jones. Everytime I watched him either A.) His receivers were wide open & throws he had to make did not have to fit into tight windows, or B.) He was under pressure & did not look good when heat was brought on him. I think I would rather take my chances with Nassib or Barkley. Just my opinion.
BringBackFergy Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Not sure about Jones either way. But it's very, very easy to imagine a heated, even nasty power struggle between GM and coach, especially an offensive minded coach, on a QB in this draft. In this case, exponentially more likely because of the Marrone familiarity and the lame duck GM whose legacy is highly likely to be directly connected to this draft and the QB he takes. The chances of the powers that be not agreeing is huge. And Nix on his way out adds to the issue tremendously. Thx for posting that. I think you're absolutely right...this kind of conflict may need to be resolved by Brandon. If that's the case, Marrone gets his man and Buddy walks out of the war room in a huff.
Gordio Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Interesting stuff thats for sure!! I think that when talking about a trade down there are a few players that we are going to want to see 1 (or hopefully more) of on the board at 8. Dee Milner, Star Lotulelei Lane Johnson (assuming that the other 2 tackles are gone) and Tavon Austin. These are the players that teams might trade up for if on the board. I think Buddy wants out of this spot bad. Yeah yeah, I know that is not what he does but I think he wants to drop down & get more picks. Whether he could find a partner or not is what this draft is all about. Like you said, if there is a guy or 2 on the board that teams want @ 8 like Austin, he may find a partner.
D521646 Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Listening to that I could see a power struggle for Nassib over Jones. Perhaps they've decided to pick BPA @8 and who's left at 41 is their guy. My guess is Jones will most certainly be there, but Nassib not so much.
Direhard Fan Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Why trade down if we only get a 7th. Thats 20 some picks from free agents. Take Austin and get on with it at 8. Plus I don't want to wait around thursday night for the 18th or 19th pick. That is beddie bye time.
Mr Info Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Listening to that I could see a power struggle for Nassib over Jones. Perhaps they've decided to pick BPA @8 and who's left at 41 is their guy. My guess is Jones will most certainly be there, but Nassib not so much. This, Gordio's post & KtD's analysis make this arguably the most interesting Bills draft ever...draft day decisions, trade downs scenarios, and staff power struggles abound. I'll be hunkered down on DD with items nearby to throw, drink, and eat.
Dr. Trooth Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Not sure about Jones either way. But it's very, very easy to imagine a heated, even nasty power struggle between GM and coach, especially an offensive minded coach, on a QB in this draft. In this case, exponentially more likely because of the Marrone familiarity and the lame duck GM whose legacy is highly likely to be directly connected to this draft and the QB he takes. The chances of the powers that be not agreeing is huge. And Nix on his way out adds to the issue tremendously. Thx for posting that. Well... seeing how the last 4 qb moves Buddy made (drafting the 7th rounder, upping Fitz for big $$, bringing Vince Young in, and giving up a 7th rounder for Jax) I'm pretty sure the one thing we don't want is Buddy making the call. There is no team in the league that would have considered Buddy for a GM job. Ralph gave him the job because no one else would take it. I see Buddy out a few months after the draft. Brandon is not going to let Buddy make a pick that Brandon, Whaley, and Marrone have to live with and Buddy riding off into the sunset. I believe Whaley and Marrone's opinions trump Buddy's. Those two are the present and future of the Bills, not Buddy.
benderbender Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Am I the only one who shudders when they hear "Nix" and "phone calls?" Dear god, someone give him a caller ID. I want him speaking to real GMs only!
D521646 Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 This, Gordio's post & KtD's analysis make this arguably the most interesting Bills draft ever...draft day decisions, trade downs scenarios, and staff power struggles abound. I'll be hunkered down on DD with items nearby to throw, drink, and eat. Me too brother! Me too!
Joe Miner Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I just got out of an interesting meeting with some guys that lets just say are fairly familar with the Bills. Out of the one gentlemens mouth & I quote "There is a real power struggle going on, Marrone wants his boy Nassib, Buddy is really bit in the ass over (wait for several posters to jump off the bridge) Landry Jones." I can't see them taking Jones with a 1st round pick(doesn't he have a 3rd round grade) Maybe Nix will take Jones with our 2nd & take Millner/Austin/one of the LBs with our first round pick. Take it for what it is worth, which is not a hell of alot. Just thought I would share. If they draft Jones, Buddy should be fired on the spot.
Magox Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I'd have to agree. I don't believe a lame duck GM would shun the new HC's first choice selection, specially considering he's seen the kid more than just about anyone.
Chandler#81 Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I just got out of an interesting meeting with some guys that lets just say are fairly familar with the Bills. Out of the one gentlemens mouth & I quote "There is a real power struggle going on, Marrone wants his boy Nassib, Buddy is really bit in the ass over (wait for several posters to jump off the bridge) Landry Jones." I can't see them taking Jones with a 1st round pick(doesn't he have a 3rd round grade) Maybe Nix will take Jones with our 2nd & take Millner/Austin/one of the LBs with our first round pick. Take it for what it is worth, which is not a hell of alot. Just thought I would share. Should this be true, it's great news! A.) our coach believes his guy is the answer. B.) I believe Landry Jones could be great at the next step. I'd take him over Nassib from everything I've seen.. I'm hooked! I have PLANS for the weekend!
Bill from NYC Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Not sure about Jones either way. But it's very, very easy to imagine a heated, even nasty power struggle between GM and coach, especially an offensive minded coach, on a QB in this draft. In this case, exponentially more likely because of the Marrone familiarity and the lame duck GM whose legacy is highly likely to be directly connected to this draft and the QB he takes. The chances of the powers that be not agreeing is huge. And Nix on his way out adds to the issue tremendously. Thx for posting that. Well, who hired Marrone, his Syracuse crony? If what Gordio posts is true (and this would not surprise me), I wonder who will win this battle lol!
D521646 Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Should this be true, it's great news! A.) our coach believes his guy is the answer. B.) I believe Landry Jones could be great at the next step. I'd take him over Nassib from everything I've seen.. I'm hooked! I have PLANS for the weekend! Polian likes Jones as well, if what he was saying on ESPN last night has any weight?
The Big Cat Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Okay, I've seen this pop up a couple times today now: is it foregone speculation that Buddy is a "lame duck," is it wishful thinking or has this been reported on, and I just missed it?
Kellyto83TD Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I don't think there is a QB that the team is really that excited about. I don't think there is a guy on the draft board that the Jets could draft and scare the Bills or even disappoint them. Bills are thinking QB project at this point and see if he pans out. next year is a much better QB class if it doesn't pan out. Guarantee we will be in position (top 5 pick) to take one of the top 3 QB's. Won't happen. As much as fans know this team sucks it always screws its self by winning enough games to NOT be in position for a Newton, Luck, RGIII. And about November we will have 3-4 wins and fans will be screaming 'screw the draft, we have to win no matter what blah blah blah' and then come April we won't be in a position to get a Franchise QB. This **** happens almost every year. This team will always find a way to win 5-7 games and not get out of that funk and its not going to happen with Kolb or TJax at QB. It won't happen with a great defense, it happens when you get a franchise QB.
Mango Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Should this be true, it's great news! A.) our coach believes his guy is the answer. B.) I believe Landry Jones could be great at the next step. I'd take him over Nassib from everything I've seen.. I'm hooked! I have PLANS for the weekend! It is easy to get hooked on Landry's career, but there are some pretty large concerns. in fact similar concerns I think. I heard Pat Kirwan, former(i know former) GM, grade Nassib as a 3rd-4th at best, and would be lucky to become a career backup. Then some have him as the top prospect. McNabb said that people are willing to take a chance because nobody really knows what he is capable of, he is one large question mark, with some upside, and a little talent in a lot of places. Every QB scares me in this draft, and I am terrified of them all. If this is true, and Marrone hangs his first head NFL job on his questionable QB, then it will either make or break his career. He either has the ability to identify, find, and cultivate talent, or he doesn't. For this reason if I were Marrone I would stay away from Nassib, the risk of failure with that decision far out weighs the gains if he is successful I think.
Kellyto83TD Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 I just got out of an interesting meeting with some guys that lets just say are fairly familar with the Bills. Out of the one gentlemens mouth & I quote "There is a real power struggle going on, Marrone wants his boy Nassib, Buddy is really bit in the ass over (wait for several posters to jump off the bridge) Landry Jones." I can't see them taking Jones with a 1st round pick(doesn't he have a 3rd round grade) Maybe Nix will take Jones with our 2nd & take Millner/Austin/one of the LBs with our first round pick. Take it for what it is worth, which is not a hell of alot. Just thought I would share. I had to remember this is some rumor from some guy or I might have slit my wrists right there... There is only ONE player worth #8 other than QB and that is Tavon Austin and I can see people trading ahead of us to get him.
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