Fezmid Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I actually agree with the sentiment -- one tragedy shouldn't mean a complete re-write of laws. In this case, the administration is using the victims to try and push their own anti-2nd amendment agenda through by playing the sympathy card. That said, he probably shouldn't have said that last sentence as it dilutes what I think he's trying to say. http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/tv/204097941.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 You don't get more dumbass than this. It's a shame politicians feel the need to surround their message with victims. You'd think enough people saw Cindy Sheehan kicked to the curb by liberals to avoid the scam, but I can only imagine that the anger of losing a young child to a psychotic nutjob is too excessive to stop for even a moment and realize that you're being used like a cheap puppet. You can only imagine how grief-stricken you must be to stand next to a person to help them pass laws that would have never, ever, ever stopped your child from getting killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Victims, or parents & friends of the victims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Go to hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Go to hell You're already there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 You're already there. Like, I'm literally burning in hell, but with internet privileges? Or reading over-the-top, manufactured right-wing incredulity on PPP? Or I'm beyond hope and will end up in hell when I die so it's as if I'm there already? Or that the liberals, led by the Anti-Christ Barack Hussein Obama have created hell on Earth already? I'm confused as to which metaphor your trying for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) Like, I'm literally burning in hell, but with internet privileges? Or reading over-the-top, manufactured right-wing incredulity on PPP? Or I'm beyond hope and will end up in hell when I die so it's as if I'm there already? Or that the liberals, led by the Anti-Christ Barack Hussein Obama have created hell on Earth already? I'm confused as to which metaphor your trying for. I just figured I'd be dramatic. A sound track could have helped. Edited April 22, 2013 by meazza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I just figured I'd be dramatic. A sound track could have helped. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) I actually agree with the sentiment -- one tragedy shouldn't mean a complete re-write of laws. In this case, the administration is using the victims to try and push their own anti-2nd amendment agenda through by playing the sympathy card. That said, he probably shouldn't have said that last sentence as it dilutes what I think he's trying to say. http://www.startribu.../204097941.html Roughly, what, half of Americans probably see that statement as untrue. I have no issue with the President using the Newtown families as support for senisble gun law changes, they are doing so because they probably feel they can do some good and save some lives with their efforts.... even if in thier children's circumstance backgrounch checks wouldn't have made the difference... I find that effort dignified and part of the democracy... However, the system we have in place for Government worked- It protected enumerated personal liberties over the challenge to curtail them. If the Newtown families want to effect change, they can do it through organization and education to get voters to put people in place to change those laws.. its the surefire was to make changes to our laws, the vote. The host appears to lack empathy for people whose lives have changed forever because of mentall ilness and gun violence.... he'll be dealt with the in court of public opinion and maybe more importantly in the department of advertiser reluctance. Its hard to believe someone would by choice or by accident utter the words "go to hell" to vicitins of such a tragedy when what they were doing was exercising their rights and beliefs as Americans... shame on him- especially as these folks again are on the losing side of another event in their lives. Edit- roughly 1/2 supoprt shanges to reasonable gun law changes, not re-write all of them... to clarify Edited April 22, 2013 by B-Large Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Victims, or parents & friends of the victims? Everyone's a victim. Everyone. It doesn't work any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'm a victim of the liberal media! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'm a victim of the liberal media! mmmm, I wouldn't say you are a victim of the "liberal media". Product? Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Everyone's a victim. Everyone. It doesn't work any other way. Happy Birthday Dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 mmmm, I wouldn't say you are a victim of the "liberal media". Product? Maybe I'm a victim of your mean words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'm a victim of your mean words! I'm a victim of your victimhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'm a victim of your victimhood. I'm a product of your victimhood of my victimhood. Everyone's a victim. Or a product. Or some combination of those. Everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 In all seriousness though, this guy is a major a-hole for saying that. But this is kind of funny: Bob "Douchenozzle" Davis says: "I would stand in front of them and tell them, ‘Go to hell.’" Sandy Hook, Conn., resident Brad Greene send Davis an e-mail “offering to pay his travel expenses to Newtown to stand in front of people and repeat the words he said on the radio.” Davis fails to respond to said offer. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 In all seriousness though, this guy is a major a-hole for saying that. But this is kind of funny: Bob "Douchenozzle" Davis says: "I would stand in front of them and tell them, ‘Go to hell.’" Sandy Hook, Conn., resident Brad Greene send Davis an e-mail “offering to pay his travel expenses to Newtown to stand in front of people and repeat the words he said on the radio.” Davis fails to respond to said offer. lol Yeah, well...context is everything. If the residents of Newton, CT were protesting a gun show, I might tell them to go to hell*. But I wouldn't stand in front of Sandy Hook Elem. on a whim and do it. *Note: I actually wouldn't, because I wouldn't care. But I wouldn't criticize anyone who did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'm a product of your victimhood of my victimhood. Everyone's a victim. Or a product. Or some combination of those. Everyone. More to the point; to liberals like yourself, a victim is essential to pushing your wares. You want to sell health care reform, but you can't do it without putting a microphone in front of people who lost someone because they didn't have good insurance. You want to sell gun control, but you can't do it without putting a microphone in front of families who children were killed by guns. You want to sell a peaceful world, but you can't do it without putting a microphone in front of a Cindy Sheehan. You want to sell amnesty, but you can't do it without giving Pedro a microphone and interpreter. Your side can not exist with reason, so it goes to the lowest common denominator; emotion. Unfortunately, you elected a man who is lost without a victim by his side at every turn, and people are figuring it out. Think about it. An entire health care law got creatively shoved through the house and Senate in less than a year, and today he can't even pass legislation that, according to his own press, is actually wanted by 90% of Americans. He could be the lamest of lame ducks. Which is what happens when the only product you can sell requires victims to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I don'tI do not understand. Why does the country spend money on the MIT police, Boston Police, Watertown Police, State police, FBI and National Guard. Save the money and let the citizens with their AK 47 do the job. They would have found him and maybe a few others at the same time. For all those who want the 2nd admen. to be so strong this is the only solution. Either put controls on the guns or have the authorities step back and go for it. All those people cheering for the police must have been wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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