Fan in San Diego Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 I based my comment on the time I did jury duty a few years back. A dude was charged with DUI and his lawyer hired an "alcohol absorption expert" to testify. While I agree all the factors you cite play a role, the rule-of-thumb this guys was saying was one drink (be it beer, wine, shot or mixer) per hour. EDIT: I found this and it looks like you're right and that guy was full of it. DUI calculator. PTR That calculator said I could drink 8 beers in 2 hours before I got to 0.079
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 this is a terrible point man, and im about as anti-big government as they come. the fact of the matter is, there needs to be a system in place that punishes those who step outside of what we, as a society, view as acceptable behavior. you could argue that maybe the legal limit is too low, but to say that it's just a scam to bilk us out of our money is ridiculous. i don't see myself as "suffering" because there are laws in place to try and deter people from drinking and driving. in fact, you have to be pretty inebriated to arouse enough suspicion from an officer of the law to be pulled over, and even then, you have to be pretty inebriated to be issued a field sobriety test, AND EVEN THEN, you have to be pretty inebriated to fail it: especially if you're al freaking michaels living in america 2013. every red blooded, hetero sexual ameican male would have likely released him on the spot, had he been able to drive home safely. and honestly, who, over the age of like, 25, gets busted for an oui without being pretty f*cked up? (and stupid). Driving is such a banal part of life that we naturally underestimate the danger of hurtling metal and glass down the highway at 75 mph. "So what?" people say. "So I've had a few drinks." Yeah, you've also increased the likelihood of a fatal accident by ten-fold or a hundred-fold.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 He blew a .08 and a .09. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/al-michaels-arrested-dui-162705210--nfl.html Where he was arrested, .08 is the legal limit.
dwight in philly Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) he was charged as the result of a DUI checkpoint. no one condones drunken driving, but it remains to be seen if DUI checkpoints pass the constitutionality test. Edited April 21, 2013 by dwight in philly
mitchmurraydowntown Posted April 21, 2013 Author Posted April 21, 2013 He should be able to afford a cab, just to be on the safe side.
jumbalaya Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 I think Al Michaels is the most overrated announcer on TV. I can't stand him. Don't wish him bad. But I couldn't care less about this dude.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 He blew a .08 and a .09. http://sports.yahoo....05210--nfl.html Where he was arrested, .08 is the legal limit. he was charged as the result of a DUI checkpoint. no one condones drunken driving, but it remains to be seen if DUI checkpoints pass the constitutionality test. So he was barely over the legal limit and he wasn't pulled over for driving erratically but rather was stopped at a checkpoint.
transient Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 That calculator said I could drink 8 beers in 2 hours before I got to 0.079 Yeah, I don't think anyone should be using that calculator to guage whether or not to drive. According to that I can have 5 beers in 1 hour and still be 0.07 and change. I'm pretty sure that's wrong... though it just might be a dare! (tested by BAC, of course, not behind the wheel, before the torches and pitchforks appear) So he was barely over the legal limit and he wasn't pulled over for driving erratically but rather was stopped at a checkpoint. The fact of the matter is, regardless of what we all like to think when it's us involved, 0.08 - 0.09 BAC represents impaired judgement, concentration and motor skill, even if we're not falling down drunk.
yungmack Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) I believe there was a recent report that found "distracted driving" to be a bigger cause of vehicle accidents than drinking, things like using the phone, messing with the radio and GPS, eating and drinking, loose pets, etc. Because we are a deeply Calvinist culture, we are more punitive towatds things that are "pleasureable" and more forgiving about things that are associated with work. Hence nobody from the greatest criminal theft in the history of the world has been indicted for the WallStreet meltdown while our prisons are packed with people who service our very normal desre to get a buzz from time to time. No surprise though from a country where "hard working" is considered something to be proud of. Or "I haven't taken a vacation in 10 years" is somehow a sign of moral superiority. Impairment should be the basis for getting a ticket not alcohol use. Edited April 21, 2013 by yungmack
Kelly the Dog Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 Living close to Santa Monica I find the checkpoint element to be the real disturbing part of this story.
We Come In Peace Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 Living close to Santa Monica I find the checkpoint element to be the real disturbing part of this story. No checkpoint can ever hold you!
ExWNYer Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 Following in the footsteps of Pat Summer... http://www.cnn.com/2....html?hpt=hp_t3 "DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLE PILLS?!!" http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/29/science_is_brilliant/
judman Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 Al Michaels has a glass eye... Those field tests must be a little tougher without depth perception.
Just Jack Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 That calculator said I could drink 8 beers in 2 hours before I got to 0.079 6-7 beers in two hours for me. 7 puts me just over, at .081 5-6 in one hour, 6 puts me just over at .082 And for the extreme, if I can down 5 beers in 12 minutes, .079 But quite frankly, I drink so rarely (can't remember the last time I had a beer) I think those numbers should be lower.
eball Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 Done it a couple times myself, but there's no reasonable difference between driving under the influence and causing an accident and driving under the influence and not causing an accident. It's the act of willfully increasing the chances of an accident that counts. I think you miss my point. The risks of driving while intoxicated are not at issue; I'm simply stating that unless Al caused an accident or there are some other sensational facts it's not much of a news story.
JohnC Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 ninghe was charged as the result of a DUI checkpoint. no one condones drunken driving, but it remains to be seen if DUI checkpoints pass the constitutionality test. Checkpoints are constitutional. However, they must meet certain requirements and be consistently applied. There are jurisdictions that don't permit checkpoints. The checkpoint issue has been taken to the Supreme Court and the ruling in Michigan vs Sitz allowed it. https://www.ohiobar.org/ForPublic/Resources/LawYouCanUse/Pages/LawYouCanUse-582.aspx
thebug Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 I prefer http://www.rupissed.com for figuring out BAC.
vincec Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 I based my comment on the time I did jury duty a few years back. A dude was charged with DUI and his lawyer hired an "alcohol absorption expert" to testify. While I agree all the factors you cite play a role, the rule-of-thumb this guys was saying was one drink (be it beer, wine, shot or mixer) per hour. EDIT: I found this and it looks like you're right and that guy was full of it. DUI calculator. PTR That calculator is full of crap, or the laws are a joke. According to this I would have to drink 6 glasses of wine in 1 hour in order for me to be impaired. 5 or less and I'm good to go. I know from experience that I can feel 3 glasses in one hour and am definitely impaired after 4 (an entire bottle of wine) in an hour or less.
eme123 Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 Checkpoints are constitutional. However, they must meet certain requirements and be consistently applied. There are jurisdictions that don't permit checkpoints. The checkpoint issue has been taken to the Supreme Court and the ruling in Michigan vs Sitz allowed it. https://www.ohiobar....CanUse-582.aspx Wow! Thats pushing constitutionality in my opinion. What about the 4th(Searching and Seizure)? Checkpoints sound like entrapment to me. However its legal and its intent is to save lives. Officers should do just that. They should put the checkpoint right outside bars/restaurants. Then they are truly effecting drunk driving and saving lives. The fact that they never would do something like this proves its all about the money.
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