Marathon Bombing and the Media

[OCinBuffalo]

That's funny, considering that Fox News was explicitly established for ideological purposes, and by your own statement crushed the other networks because of it.

No. But they're probably not tough to find, as I've heard more than a few interviews with Murdoch where he's said that was his intent.

Not saying you're wrong here Tom, but do you have a link or something to back up your claim?

Tom is not wrong. Not even close. Fox News is the...only, logical...outcome of a media that was entirely biased. And, once again, Fox News is what happens when the far left is allowed to run things: they get the exact opposite of what they intend.

 

But how did this happen?

 

Easy: When Ted Turner is stopping Bernie Sanders(CNN) from doing his job, walks on his live set, hands him a note, and demands that it be read verbatim...way back in 1994? 2 things happened: the real pretext for Fox News was born, and a good man like Sanders said "F this schit". Something had to be done, both here and abroad, and Rupert Murdoch, said: "I will make big $ based solely on the fact the media is completely biased." Was he right? Billions later? Yup.

 

Jon Stewart is the only liberal I've seen so far that has been honest about the situation: "Fox News is an overreaction to what was clearly a liberally biased media."

 

Think about that for a second. Who else in the media has ever been honest about the flat out bias? Only John Stewart has publicly defined and recognized the bias...as bias...and not added an excuse. How bas is it, when the most serious, about this issue, person on the left, is a comedian?

 

We can debate how much of an overreaction Fox is, but, given the ratings and the state of the media, since the 1960s...nobody can honestly argue that the reason they exist...isn't directly due to liberal bias.

all you need do is watch PBS. viewership and revenue are secondary. quality trumps quantity almost every time. Wanna see real experts on opposite sides weigh in? wanna see international stories from international reporters? wanna see almost daily coverage from legal experts on supreme court cases? pretty faces? well, in that case stick with the networks you cited.

Who here believes that they will get an honest report of things, the way they actually are, from PBS or NPR? Or better, who here believes that you will get an honest, non-ideological answer from birdog...on anything?

 

Even if they didn't purposely set out to deliver a leftist message, which they clearly do, you are the biggest moron in the world if you don't realize that government funding = say nice things about the government.

 

Birdog: perhaps you should ask Juan Williams about the quality of NPR. Perhaps you should ask NPR's board, who has had to fire both the CEO and #2 guy in the recent past, precisely because the bias they have, caused them to act stupidly.

 

PBS and NPR may have quality straight news people, I am sure every organization does. But, that doesn't matter, if the bosses are choosing not to assign a reporter to Benghazi, at all, now does it?

 

How are you a "quality" news organization...when you refuse to report the news?

[B-Man]

All sorts of weird things this week (in the media)

 

Maher to Guest Defending Islam in Wake of Boston Bombings: 'That's Liberal Bulls--t'

 

BILL MAHER, HOST: So you're obviously the perfect person to have here today. You study this all the time, the mind of crazy people who do horrible things. I'm always interested to know how people like the people we caught today up in Boston can have two minds going at the same time. I mean, if you read what the older brother wrote on his, on the internet, he said his world view: Islam. Personal priorities: career and money. And we see this a lot. I mean, the 9/11 hijackers went to strip clubs the night before they got on the plane.

 

BRIAN LEVIN, DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER FOR THE STUDY OF HATE AND EXTREMISM AT CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY, SAN BERNADINO: Could I just interject? Look, it's not like people who are Muslim who do wacky things have a monopoly on it. We have hypocrites across faiths, Jewish, Christian who say they're out for God and end up doing not so nice things.

 

MAHER: You know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? That's, that’s liberal bull **** right there. I mean, yes, all faiths…

 

LEVIN: There are no Christian hypocrites?

 

MAHER: No, there are.

 

LEVIN: You make a career on that.

 

MAHER: They just, they're not as dangerous. I mean, there's only one faith, for example, that kills you or wants to kill you if you draw a bad cartoon of the prophet. There’s only one faith that kills you or wants to kill you if you renounce the faith. An ex-Muslim is a very dangerous thing. Talk to Salman Rushdie after the show about Christian versus Islam. So, you know, I’m just saying, let's keep it real.

 

LEVIN: Well, I guess I have a girl for you, Pam Geller you could maybe meet. No, I really disagree with you.

 

MAHER: I don't know what that means.

 

LEVIN: Well, she’s an Islamaphobe. But, no I…

 

MAHER: I’m not an Islamaphobe. That’s wrong. I am a truth lover. All religions are not alike. As many people have pointed out, “The Book of Mormon.” Did you see the show?

 

LEVIN: No, it's hard to get tickets.

 

MAHER: Okay, can you imagine if they did "The Book of Islam?" Could they do that? There’s only one religion that threatens violence and carries it out for things like that. Could they do “The Book of Islam” on Broadway?

 

LEVIN: Possibly so.

 

MAHER: Possibly so? Tell me what color the sky is in your world.

LEVIN: Here's my difficulty with your premise here, Bill, and that is look at how religions over history have had things done in their name that have been terrible.

 

MAHER: Absolutely. But we're not in history.

We're in 2013.

 

LEVIN: But what I would tell you…

 

MAHER: You're right, during the Middle Ages, I would say Christianity was the bigger problem.

 

LEVIN: If I may, though. You are making an error in that Islam has over 1.4 billion adherents. There’s a heterogeneity to it. Are there extremists who are horrible people who would slit your throats? Yes. But there are also folks that are fine, upstanding people.

 

MAHER: Of course.

 

LEVIN: And I'm very worried you have a national audience where we're promoting Islamic hatred.

 

MAHER: No, you're wrong about that and you're wrong about your facts. Now, obviously, most Muslim people are not terrorists, but ask most Muslim people in the world, if you insult the prophet, do you have what's coming to you.

It's more than just a fringe element.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/04/20/maher-guest-defending-islam-wake-boston-bombing-thats-lberal-bulls-t#ixzz2R1yUB9AS

[Nanker]

B-man. That's pretty incredible. Wonder what woke Maher up. Levin sounds like a real problem. He'd apologize to the terrorists while his head was bouncing down the stairs.

 

"He killed 16 Czechoslovakians. He was an interior decorator."

 

One of the all time great episodes, scenes, and lines.

 

"His house looked like ****." Still makes me laugh.

[meazza]

B-man. That's pretty incredible. Wonder what woke Maher up. Levin sounds like a real problem. He'd apologize to the terrorists while his head was bouncing down the stairs.

 

 

 

One of the all time great episodes, scenes, and lines.

 

"His house looked like ****." Still makes me laugh.

 

Amazing how accurate it was

 

Oh and I highly disagree with Bill Maher which shouldn't come as a shock.

[DC Tom]

I expected more from you.

 

I'm supposed to give a **** about your expectations?

 

I related something I've heard twice in interviews with Murdoch on TV, and read once in print in a quote from him. I'm not going to get a Lexis-Nexis subscription to track them down, just so I can provide a link for your !@#$ing convenience.

 

B-man. That's pretty incredible. Wonder what woke Maher up. Levin sounds like a real problem. He'd apologize to the terrorists while his head was bouncing down the stairs.

 

 

Maher's an avowed athiest. Why shouldn't he be attacking someone who defends Islam?

[meazza]

Maher's an avowed athiest. Why shouldn't he be attacking someone who defends Islam?

 

These atheists are quite dogmatic.

 

The agnostics like me are more tolerable.

[Nanker]

I'm supposed to give a **** about your expectations?

 

I related something I've heard twice in interviews with Murdoch on TV, and read once in print in a quote from him. I'm not going to get a Lexis-Nexis subscription to track them down, just so I can provide a link for your !@#$ing convenience.

 

 

 

Maher's an avowed athiest. Why shouldn't he be attacking someone who defends Islam?

 

Not sayin' he shouldn't. Just surprised that he would and did. Hardly anybody in Halliewould would look the slightest askance at the doings and practices of the most radical followers of Islam. They're pretty much given a free pass to behead, bomb, and pursue their homophobic and misogynistic tendencies which they seem to feel are tenants of faith.

[3rdnlng]

I'm supposed to give a **** about your expectations?

 

I related something I've heard twice in interviews with Murdoch on TV, and read once in print in a quote from him. I'm not going to get a Lexis-Nexis subscription to track them down, just so I can provide a link for your !@#$ing convenience.

 

 

 

Maher's an avowed athiest. Why shouldn't he be attacking someone who defends Islam?

 

 

This was you---"That's funny, considering that Fox News was explicitly established for ideological purposes, and by your own statement crushed the other networks because of it."

 

I simply asked you if you had a link and you replied that you'd seen Murdoch interviews stating that Fox News was explicitly established for ideological purposes. You refused to provide a link much like the many posters you have criticized here for doing the same thing as you. In fact, you intimated that you want me to look up a link to your statement for me to be convinced of your statement. Wow, maybe you should change your screen name to "A Boy Named Sue". Don't worry, you can still be PPP's "Idiot Judge", and you can take that in the spirit that it was said.

[DC Tom]

This was you---"That's funny, considering that Fox News was explicitly established for ideological purposes, and by your own statement crushed the other networks because of it."

 

I simply asked you if you had a link and you replied that you'd seen Murdoch interviews stating that Fox News was explicitly established for ideological purposes. You refused to provide a link much like the many posters you have criticized here for doing the same thing as you. In fact, you intimated that you want me to look up a link to your statement for me to be convinced of your statement. Wow, maybe you should change your screen name to "A Boy Named Sue". Don't worry, you can still be PPP's "Idiot Judge", and you can take that in the spirit that it was said.

 

I didn't "refuse" to provide a link. I don't have one. Because I didn't read it on the internet. And I'm not going to find one, because I couldn't possibly care less about "convincing" you of anything.

 

So don't give me any **** about it - it's your "expectations" that are !@#$ed.

[3rdnlng]

I didn't "refuse" to provide a link. I don't have one. Because I didn't read it on the internet. And I'm not going to find one, because I couldn't possibly care less about "convincing" you of anything.

 

So don't give me any **** about it - it's your "expectations" that are !@#$ed.

 

Then why did you even respond?

[DC Tom]

Then why did you even respond?

 

Common courtesy. You asked me a reasonable question, and I gave a reasonable answer.

 

Then you decided to be a prick. So !@#$ you.

[keepthefaith]

For sure the coming weeks should provide some entertaining reports from the hard left. MSNBC was already airing interviews last night from people who knew the brothers and thought they were just the nicest young people.

[BringBackFergy]

Soooo....I guess no Christmas card for 3rdnlng???

 

For sure the coming weeks should provide some entertaining reports from the hard left. MSNBC was already airing interviews last night from people who knew the brothers and thought they were just the nicest young people.

Count on it.

[meazza]

For sure the coming weeks should provide some entertaining reports from the hard left. MSNBC was already airing interviews last night from people who knew the brothers and thought they were just the nicest young people.

 

Don't they say that the majority of sexual assaults occur from people who were close to the victim? Doesn't that sort of show that you really can't ever know what the hell is going through someones mind?

[3rdnlng]

Common courtesy. You asked me a reasonable question, and I gave a reasonable answer.

 

Then you decided to be a prick. So !@#$ you.

 

Tom, I gotta hand it to ya. You responded to someone out of common courtesy? Then you, of all people claim someone else was a prick? You got me. Too funny, I'll walk away to make fun of you another day.

[We Come In Peace]

Not sayin' he shouldn't. Just surprised that he would and did. Hardly anybody in Halliewould would look the slightest askance at the doings and practices of the most radical followers of Islam. They're pretty much given a free pass to behead, bomb, and pursue their homophobic and misogynistic tendencies which they seem to feel are tenants of faith.

He does it every show. It's not new from Maher.

[B-Man]

Howie Carr from the Boston Herald................................I think he's upset

 

 

Carr: USA needs refuge from refugees

 

So once again, no good deed goes unpunished.

 

Uncle Sam lets another bunch of leeching future terrorists into the country who have absolutely no business being here, gives them “asylum,” making them immediately eligible for welfare, and this is the thanks we get?

 

They turn into mass murderers.

 

We bring in thousands of Muslims from a primitive society that has been battling Christians for centuries, and put them into a peaceful Christian society

 

— what could possible go wrong?

 

This is what I was thinking about yesterday, with much of the city under what amounted to martial law. Once more, law-abiding American citizens were paying the price for the insane immigration policies that have so damaged this society in recent years.

 

You can see the decay everywhere — in the emergency rooms, in the courts, in the welfare offices and, yes, in the epidemic of senseless murders. The only difference this time was one of the bloodthirsty fiends was actually a naturalized U.S. citizen.

 

And then these “refugees” started killing the generous Americans who supported them for years in their indolence. The young Tsarnaev even got a $2,500 scholarship from the City of Cambridge — which is why I never, ever gave a dime to the Cambridge scholarship fund when I lived there.

 

I know you’re not supposed to paint with a broad brush, unless you’re a liberal, in which case you are not only permitted, but expected to make Adam Lanza the poster boy for 100 million law-abiding legal gun owners.

 

 

But please, before the Kool-Aid drinkers in the Senate try to get amnesty for at least 12 million un­documented Democrats, can somebody please consider how many more of these Dzhokhar Tsarnaevs we really need?

 

A better question: How many of these jihadist “refugees” can we as a society survive?

 

Look at the chaos and the tragedy these Chechens have inflicted on the people of Boston this week. Who asked them to come here? What exactly do they contribute to the culture? They have had everything — absolutely everything — handed to them.

 

Obviously, no other country in the world wanted these sharia-crazed Stone Age Muslim terrorists.

 

The older terrorist, Tamerlan, was described as a “very religious” Muslim. I guess that’s why he was arrested for domestic abuse in 2009, because he was so “very religious.” And he told a photojournalist that, “I don’t have a single American friend.”

 

Then he should have gone back to Chechnya.

 

Yesterday, one of the moonbats on MSNBC was talking about the “family’s deep roots in Boston.” Too bad we don’t have a death penalty here. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev might find out just how deep his roots would be — 6 feet deep.

 

http://ostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/howie_carr/2013/04/carr_usa_needs_refuge_from_refugees

[Justice]

All sorts of weird things this week (in the media)

 

Maher to Guest Defending Islam in Wake of Boston Bombings: 'That's Liberal Bulls--t'

 

BILL MAHER, HOST: So you're obviously the perfect person to have here today. You study this all the time, the mind of crazy people who do horrible things. I'm always interested to know how people like the people we caught today up in Boston can have two minds going at the same time. I mean, if you read what the older brother wrote on his, on the internet, he said his world view: Islam. Personal priorities: career and money. And we see this a lot. I mean, the 9/11 hijackers went to strip clubs the night before they got on the plane.

 

BRIAN LEVIN, DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER FOR THE STUDY OF HATE AND EXTREMISM AT CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY, SAN BERNADINO: Could I just interject? Look, it's not like people who are Muslim who do wacky things have a monopoly on it. We have hypocrites across faiths, Jewish, Christian who say they're out for God and end up doing not so nice things.

 

MAHER: You know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? That's, that’s liberal bull **** right there. I mean, yes, all faiths…

 

LEVIN: There are no Christian hypocrites?

 

MAHER: No, there are.

 

LEVIN: You make a career on that.

 

MAHER: They just, they're not as dangerous. I mean, there's only one faith, for example, that kills you or wants to kill you if you draw a bad cartoon of the prophet. There’s only one faith that kills you or wants to kill you if you renounce the faith. An ex-Muslim is a very dangerous thing. Talk to Salman Rushdie after the show about Christian versus Islam. So, you know, I’m just saying, let's keep it real.

 

LEVIN: Well, I guess I have a girl for you, Pam Geller you could maybe meet. No, I really disagree with you.

 

MAHER: I don't know what that means.

 

LEVIN: Well, she’s an Islamaphobe. But, no I…

 

MAHER: I’m not an Islamaphobe. That’s wrong. I am a truth lover. All religions are not alike. As many people have pointed out, “The Book of Mormon.” Did you see the show?

 

LEVIN: No, it's hard to get tickets.

 

MAHER: Okay, can you imagine if they did "The Book of Islam?" Could they do that? There’s only one religion that threatens violence and carries it out for things like that. Could they do “The Book of Islam” on Broadway?

 

LEVIN: Possibly so.

 

MAHER: Possibly so? Tell me what color the sky is in your world.

LEVIN: Here's my difficulty with your premise here, Bill, and that is look at how religions over history have had things done in their name that have been terrible.

 

MAHER: Absolutely. But we're not in history.

We're in 2013.

 

LEVIN: But what I would tell you…

 

MAHER: You're right, during the Middle Ages, I would say Christianity was the bigger problem.

 

LEVIN: If I may, though. You are making an error in that Islam has over 1.4 billion adherents. There’s a heterogeneity to it. Are there extremists who are horrible people who would slit your throats? Yes. But there are also folks that are fine, upstanding people.

 

MAHER: Of course.

 

LEVIN: And I'm very worried you have a national audience where we're promoting Islamic hatred.

 

MAHER: No, you're wrong about that and you're wrong about your facts. Now, obviously, most Muslim people are not terrorists, but ask most Muslim people in the world, if you insult the prophet, do you have what's coming to you.

It's more than just a fringe element.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/04/20/maher-guest-defending-islam-wake-boston-bombing-thats-lberal-bulls-t#ixzz2R1yUB9AS

 

What an extremely stupid argument to make. Sure, there are many Muslims out there that will kill you over a cartoon of the prophet Muhammad, but there are many more that wont.

 

If I walked through the streets of Tel Aviv with a sign on me that said, "death to all Israelis", don't you think I'd be physically harmed? If I had a sign on me that said, "F the N-----S", in Harlem or any other predominantly black neighborhood, don't you think I might not make it out of there alive?

 

Would it be because these guys are Israeli or Black or would it be because these guys(that made you pay the price for such racism) in particular might actually be violent and violence is the only way they know how to deal with that type of situation?

 

Skin color, race, or religious beliefs have nothing to do with it. It's either because you're violent or not.

Edited April 21, 2013 by NoJustice

[3rdnlng]

What an extremely stupid argument to make. Sure, there are many Muslims out there that will kill you over a cartoon of the prophet Muhammad, but there are many more that wont.

 

If I walked through the streets of Tel Aviv with a sign on me that said, "death to all Israelis", don't you think I'd be physically harmed? If I had a sign on me that said, "F the N-----S", in Harlem or any other predominantly black neighborhood, don't you think I might not make it out of there alive?

 

Would it be because these guys are Israeli or Black or would it be because these guys(that made you pay the price for such racism) in particular might actually be violent and violence is the only way they know how to deal with that type of situation?

 

Skin color, race, or religious beliefs have nothing to do with it. It's either because you're violent or not.

 

You mean the Twin Towers walked through Saudi Arabia with a sign on them?

[Justice]

 

 

You mean the Twin Towers walked through Saudi Arabia with a sign on them?

 

This doesn't even deserve a response.