dayman Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 I have heard some of you talk about your careers at times and many seem to pride themselves on solid process management. Anyone have a link of wisdom to impart on the subject? Perhaps a scholarly article of manageable size although anything would do...but not a book we're talking something to read tonight.
DC Tom Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 No, but I know a good site for currency conversions.
GG Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 On 4/3/2013 at 1:24 AM, SameOldBills said: I have heard some of you talk about your careers at times and many seem to pride themselves on solid process management. Anyone have a link of wisdom to impart on the subject? Perhaps a scholarly article of manageable size although anything would do...but not a book we're talking something to read tonight. Go through these pages and reread everything by people who disagree with you. It's a good start.
Nanker Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 It started with Taylor. Frederick Taylor. Yeah, it started with him. He's da guy. Scientific Management he called it. Whadda stoonad. Hah!
GG Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 On 4/3/2013 at 11:26 AM, Nanker said: It started with Taylor. Frederick Taylor. Yeah, it started with him. He's da guy. Scientific Management he called it. Whadda stoonad. Hah! Or W Edwards Deming
Jauronimo Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 On 4/3/2013 at 1:24 AM, SameOldBills said: I have heard some of you talk about your careers at times and many seem to pride themselves on solid process management. Anyone have a link of wisdom to impart on the subject? Perhaps a scholarly article of manageable size although anything would do...but not a book we're talking something to read tonight. Why bother reading? Process management is 99% luck anyway.
DC Tom Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 On 4/3/2013 at 1:44 PM, Jauronimo said: Why bother reading? Process management is 99% luck anyway. In my experience it's about 20% luck, 20% hard work, and 60% whacking people upside the head with a baseball bat and screaming "What the !@#$ is wrong with you?"
3rdnlng Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 On 4/3/2013 at 2:02 PM, DC Tom said: In my experience it's about 20% luck, 20% hard work, and 60% whacking people upside the head with a baseball bat and screaming "What the !@#$ is wrong with you?" Were you able to respond after being so hoarse after all that screaming?
OCinBuffalo Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 On 4/3/2013 at 1:24 AM, SameOldBills said: I have heard some of you talk about your careers at times and many seem to pride themselves on solid process management. Anyone have a link of wisdom to impart on the subject? Perhaps a scholarly article of manageable size although anything would do...but not a book we're talking something to read tonight. What do you want to know? Or better, why? This is a fairly broad topic, from my perspective. I could point you in a number of directions, so it would be helpful to know what you are trying to accomplish. For example, if you want to see the industry standards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Process_Model_and_Notation and bpmn.org If you want to see some software activiti.org (for workflow engine) and jboss.org/drools/ (for rules engine) or a whole lot of stuff. Too much to list here. This is probably the hottest business software right now in terms of dollars/effort invested. Or, if you are doing a purely theoretical thing...as was stated above, look up Deming, or Professor Scheer(Aris toolset) for that matter(btw, I have a decidedly German influence to my work/outlook...just so you know)
Nanker Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 On 4/3/2013 at 12:44 PM, GG said: Or W Edwards Deming Taylor was the real father of this bastard. Deming came along later and pretty much established the QA discipline. That's what made it possible for Rosie-the-Riveter to come in from the kitchen/farm and line up on the assembly line and replace GI Joe who had other things to do - like go fight the Japs and the Hun. Great things happened when Joe came home. The manufacturing was going along so swimmingly, they ****-canned Deming and Juran who took off for Japan to help the new Shogun - MacArthurSan rebuild that country. They did a fantastic job of it. In fact, they helped Japan win Post World War II.
4merper4mer Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 On 4/3/2013 at 3:00 PM, OCinBuffalo said: What do you want to know? Or better, why? This is a fairly broad topic, from my perspective. I could point you in a number of directions, so it would be helpful to know what you are trying to accomplish. For example, if you want to see the industry standards: http://en.wikipedia....el_and_Notation and bpmn.org If you want to see some software activiti.org (for workflow engine) and jboss.org/drools/ (for rules engine) or a whole lot of stuff. Too much to list here. This is probably the hottest business software right now in terms of dollars/effort invested. Or, if you are doing a purely theoretical thing...as was stated above, look up Deming, or Professor Scheer(Aris toolset) for that matter(btw, I have a decidedly German influence to my work/outlook...just so you know) Maybe if you pointed him to an AI that can do anything it wants he could convince it to want to develop a good process management.
OCinBuffalo Posted April 3, 2013 Posted April 3, 2013 On 4/3/2013 at 3:26 PM, 4merper4mer said: Maybe if you pointed him to an AI that can do anything it wants he could convince it to want to develop a good process management. Yawn...*leans back and stretch*....you still here?
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