PromoTheRobot Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 In a draft touted as being thin on talent why would someone want to trade up with us? Or did you forget that trading a pick requires a partner to trade with? PTR
CarolinaBill Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 In a draft touted as being thin on talent why would someone want to trade up with us? Or did you forget that trading a pick requires a partner to trade with? PTR Thin on QB talent, but Dline talent not so much
JohnC Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Agreed. Wilson is, for my money, the best this class has to offer, in terms of all around game. He doesn't do anything that will AMAZE you, hence he's not a 1st rd guy, but he does everything well, and is tough as nails. Very Kelly-esque IMO If Wilson (or any other prospect) is the qb that you have targeted as your franchise qb then why wait and risk losing your so called coveted qb? Why not just take the plunge and get this critical qb issue addressed? If the prospect doesn't work out then so what. This organization has had many first round picks at many different positions not work out., and so have all other teams
Maury Ballstein Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Geezus...........how did we get a Rodney Peete reference dropped on us?
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Geezus...........how did we get a Rodney Peete reference dropped on us? And Andre Ware. It's as though someone stopped watching football in 1994. I am surprised there was no Major Harris reference dropped. I mean, he went to WVU and he's black, amirite?
Kelly the Dog Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Geezus...........how did we get a Rodney Peete reference dropped on us? I think he was calling a spade a spade.
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 I think he was calling a spade a spade. That rolls off the tongue so much easier than "he was exhibiting the classic traits of a dumbass."
CarolinaBill Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 If Wilson (or any other prospect) is the qb that you have targeted as your franchise qb then why wait and risk losing your so called coveted qb? Why not just take the plunge and get this critical qb issue addressed? If the prospect doesn't work out then so what. This organization has had many first round picks at many different positions not work out., and so have all other teams The answer to that is perceived value. If our collective braintrust believes that we can get an impact player at #8 AND get our targeted QB @ 41 then we do it that way. However, if not, then try and trade back, maximize your value. If all that fails, take your QB @ 8.
Mr. WEO Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Awesome. I choose The Ryan Leaf Foundation. In that case, to honor your choice, I will break into my neighbors house, steal their vicodin and sell it for the $20.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 In that case, to honor your choice, I will break into my neighbors house, steal their vicodin and sell it for the $20. Awesome!* * as if you haven't already done that.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 FWIW, Ryan Nassib was checked in at 6'2" 223 today at the Senior Bowl. Wilson was 6'2" 218, Glennon at 6'6" 220.
Mr. WEO Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Awesome!* * as if you haven't already done that. Well my neighbor, Shawn Payton, has a huge pile of them in a candy jar on his kitchen counter, so technically I'm not really stealing them..
D521646 Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 The answer to that is perceived value. If our collective braintrust believes that we can get an impact player at #8 AND get our targeted QB @ 41 then we do it that way. However, if not, then try and trade back, maximize your value. If all that fails, take your QB @ 8. How do you, or anyone else for that matter, quantify, value, exactly? Tim-
JPS Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Stay put. Manuever up. Trade down. I have little confidence they'll land on the right guy.
CarolinaBill Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 How do you, or anyone else for that matter, quantify, value, exactly? Tim- Well, its about where the scouting team (with Nix at the top) has set their players rankings, both at individual positions and overall. They look at need, and overall talent/ranking, where that player fits into what WE are doing. for example, lets say that Werner, is the top ranked Dlineman on our board, and the #3 player overall, if he were to slip to #8, and it were a choice between him or say Geno Smith. That would be a Spirited discussion, if Smith is our top ranked Qb but, lets say the 21st overall prospect on our board. Well, its about where the scouting team (with Nix at the top) has set their players rankings, both at individual positions and overall. They look at need, and overall talent/ranking, where that player fits into what WE are doing. for example, lets say that Werner, is the top ranked Dlineman on our board, and the #3 player overall, if he were to slip to #8, and it were a choice between him or say Geno Smith. That would be a Spirited discussion, if Smith is our top ranked Qb but, lets say the 21st overall prospect on our board. based on how LAST yrs draft worked out, Im inclined to think that Nix & Co. will stay put and hope their guy falls to them. IMO, i think they will target, ILB, QB, WR and CB first, either in FA or the draft.
BobChalmers Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 it seems the sentiment is that Nassib's stock is rising. I don't see him lasting past the first round. Kiper has him "rising" all the way up to the second round.
Malazan Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Kiper has him "rising" all the way up to the second round. Do you feel that that I must agree with Kiper?
John from Riverside Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I have no problem taking Ryan Nassib with the 8th overall pick There...I said it - To many people are getting caught up over the fact that he played at Syracuse - To many people are getting caught up with the fact that Marrone is now the HC Ryan Nassib was a good QB BEFORE we ever knew that Morrone was going to be our HC. Why should it matter? It seems to me that we are now looking for reasons to NOT draft Ryan Nassib to this I say WHY - Accurate - Strong arm - Smart And probably not talked about much but is probably the MOST important thing.....Ryan Nassib is IMPROVING......he got better every year and looks like he has celing to continue to get better. Also....as a fan I am NOT tied into Ryan Nassib.......Gino Smith would do nicely I will tell you what I am tied into. GETTING A QUARTERBACK.......lets stop making excuses on why NOT to draft one....a high pick needs to go on a qb this year The problem with saying you are gonna take a position in the 2nd round is there can be an unexpected run on that position and you dont get the guy (or a guy out of the group of guys) that you wanted. Since we dont have the answer on the roster right now.....that would be a very bad thing.
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