RuntheDamnBall Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 One bad game against the Bills? So he sucks? He beat the Superbowl caliber Steelers in the playoffs. Who cares what he did in a meaningless game against us? If you judged RF by his w/l as a starter, you should judge Tebow the same. 7-4 in the regular season. Clutch. Makes big plays to win games. What more do you want? Just because we bring Tebow in, doesn't mean we can't also draft a QB. And if you're worried about "locker room drama," I think the Bills would enjoy getting talked about and noticed a little bit. Maybe then our good players wouldn't run out of here the first chance they get. His defense wasn't great that year,and they still made it to the divisional round. Would you like explain who caused that? Did Elway suit up and not tell anyone? We beat the Patriots that year too. Do they suck? Does Tom Brady suck? He didn't win the Superbowl either. So he sucks, huh? No. That was just an answer to your point that "he's a winner." Tom Brady has hardware. Tim Tebow has a Heisman, and that's about it, unless you want to claim that Gino Torretta unfairly never got a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) One bad game against the Bills? So he sucks? He beat the Superbowl caliber Steelers in the playoffs. Who cares what he did in a meaningless game against us? If you judged RF by his w/l as a starter, you should judge Tebow the same. 7-4 in the regular season. Clutch. Makes big plays to win games. What more do you want? Just because we bring Tebow in, doesn't mean we can't also draft a QB. And if you're worried about "locker room drama," I think the Bills would enjoy getting talked about and noticed a little bit. Maybe then our good players wouldn't run out of here the first chance they get. His defense wasn't great that year,and they still made it to the divisional round. Would you like explain who caused that? Did Elway suit up and not tell anyone? We beat the Patriots that year too. Do they suck? Does Tom Brady suck? He didn't win the Superbowl either. So he sucks, huh? This was really I was saying when I put this thread up. Folks here blow things way out of proportion. If he's as bad as the lemmings think, no problem. He'll get cut. Maybe..just maybe he comes around. He has enough potential to bring in at a league vet minimum IMO, assuming he'd go for that. It'd be a pretty low risk pick-up in that scenario. No need for you guys to get all riled up. I didnt watch all of his games but the ones I did watch he didnt look bad at all. He won several. Hard for me to understand the hatred the league / fans have toward this kid. jb Edited March 17, 2013 by jaybee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 This was really I was saying when I put this thread up. Folks here blow things way out of proportion. If he's as bad as the lemmings think, no problem. He'll get cut. Maybe..just maybe he comes around. He has enough potential to bring in at a league vet minimum IMO, assuming he's go for that. It'd be a pretty low risk pick-up in that scenario. Ne need for you guys to get all riled up. I didnt watch all of his games but the ones I did watch he didnt look bad at all. He won several. Hard for me to understand the hatred the league / fans have toward this kid. jb Lemmings? You mean, the people whose opinion thus far has reflected the facts? Tebow's inspirational powers may yet win somebody something, but a team would be stupid to bank on them. If he wanted to come to Buffalo to be a TE/H-back and do the work to learn routes and blocking schemes, with no guarantee or promises made about his being a QB, more power to him. But that will not work because the guy still believes he is a QB against all the prevailing evidence. This is not college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Lemmings? You mean, the people whose opinion thus far has reflected the facts? Tebow's inspirational powers may yet win somebody something, but a team would be stupid to bank on them. If he wanted to come to Buffalo to be a TE/H-back and do the work to learn routes and blocking schemes, with no guarantee or promises made about his being a QB, more power to him. But that will not work because the guy still believes he is a QB against all the prevailing evidence. This is not college. I hope he is not on our radar. I like him but, not on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Our Locker ROOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Lemmings? You mean, the people whose opinion thus far has reflected the facts? Tebow's inspirational powers may yet win somebody something, but a team would be stupid to bank on them. If he wanted to come to Buffalo to be a TE/H-back and do the work to learn routes and blocking schemes, with no guarantee or promises made about his being a QB, more power to him. But that will not work because the guy still believes he is a QB against all the prevailing evidence. This is not college. Amen (pun intended). I don't get the irrational love for Tebow. He's far from good. He'll be on his 3rd team in the fourth year of his career. That doesn't happen to great QBs...or even good ones for that matter. In fact, it's pathetic. He's nothing more than a media and circus side show. Nice guy, lame QB. Those with a man-crush on him want him to be more than he is but they can't see the forest for the trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGUNBILLS Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 To much of a freak show that goes with him now. He wouldn't be bad if he had started out with Buffalo from the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 To much of a freak show that goes with him now. He wouldn't be bad if he had started out with Buffalo from the draft. He'd be bad at QB any place in the NFL. One of the worst I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 To much of a freak show that goes with him now. He wouldn't be bad if he had started out with Buffalo from the draft. Given Buffalo's tremendous track record of developing QBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Except the back up guard didn't have 21 TD's in 16 games. Or 2,800 yards. He's a winner. Literally,the opposite of everything you hated about our old QB. The perennial winner isn't good enough now? 20th or 21st rated D that year, I believe. Really lights out. Even if they started playing better when Tebow went in, I wonder why? Is it because he's a leader that inspired them? I wonder if the Bills would be better if they were inspired. Hmmm. What a winner. He couldn't beat out the QB behind Sanchez. Fitz is a far better QB than Tebow. Far better. If Fitz had been on that Denver team they probably would have had a better record. A winner is someone who elevates his team, not someone who puts up very few points while his D shuts out the opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Lemmings? You mean, the people whose opinion thus far has reflected the facts? Tebow's inspirational powers may yet win somebody something, but a team would be stupid to bank on them. If he wanted to come to Buffalo to be a TE/H-back and do the work to learn routes and blocking schemes, with no guarantee or promises made about his being a QB, more power to him. But that will not work because the guy still believes he is a QB against all the prevailing evidence. This is not college. Only one team has banked on Tebow being successful. That team was Denver, and they were just as successful this year with Peyton Manning in terms of playoffs. The Jets mismanaged him, held animosity for him being forced on the team by the ex-GM and didn't start him. They set him up to fail. He still had a 75% completion percentage on the Jets. Sounds too good until you realize he threw the ball 8 times. If you can accurately rate the guy's performance after 8 throws last year, why don't you work on a team? Amen (pun intended). I don't get the irrational love for Tebow. He's far from good. He'll be on his 3rd team in the fourth year of his career. That doesn't happen to great QBs...or even good ones for that matter. In fact, it's pathetic. He's nothing more than a media and circus side show. Nice guy, lame QB. Those with a man-crush on him want him to be more than he is but they can't see the forest for the trees. To much of a freak show that goes with him now. He wouldn't be bad if he had started out with Buffalo from the draft. You understand noone talks about the Bills right? Like ever? And that's a major reason our players leave, because we're not good for their careers and getting recognized? I'd say if we had some media attention, make some of our better players feel like superstars, they'd play more like superstars. And good players with egos might have a reason to come here for some attention instead of 100 million dollar contracts. He'd be bad at QB any place in the NFL. One of the worst I've ever seen. It's not like the Bills have had great QB's in the last 10 years anyway. Why are you so scared to give a guy with all of the intangibles a chance? You're just like the talking heads who said Russell Wilson doesn't have the skills, the physique, the accuracy to succeed, and look at him now. Tebow brought a mediocre team to the playoffs. Skill or not, he did it. Call it inspiration or leadership or whatever. This team isn't good enough to make the playoffs with 6 good drafts picks and an average QB. We need those intangibles more than anything else. A team that doesn't give up. That's what Tebow can do for us. What a winner. He couldn't beat out the QB behind Sanchez. Fitz is a far better QB than Tebow. Far better. If Fitz had been on that Denver team they probably would have had a better record. A winner is someone who elevates his team, not someone who puts up very few points while his D shuts out the opponents. 21st D in the league, they didn't play that great. Top 10 and I'd agree. But they weren't. Peyton was on that team, and they got equally as far in the playoffs. Does that means Fitz would be equal to Peyton? My point is Tebow elevates his team. Just not by putting up 500 yards. It's a part of his package. He could give us a defense that doesn't give up in the second quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Only one team has banked on Tebow being successful. That team was Denver, and they were just as successful this year with Peyton Manning in terms of playoffs. The Jets mismanaged him, held animosity for him being forced on the team by the ex-GM and didn't start him. They set him up to fail. He still had a 75% completion percentage on the Jets. Sounds too good until you realize he threw the ball 8 times. If you can accurately rate the guy's performance after 8 throws last year, why don't you work on a team? You understand noone talks about the Bills right? Like ever? And that's a major reason our players leave, because we're not good for their careers and getting recognized? I'd say if we had some media attention, make some of our better players feel like superstars, they'd play more like superstars. And good players with egos might have a reason to come here for some attention instead of 100 million dollar contracts. It's not like the Bills have had great QB's in the last 10 years anyway. Why are you so scared to give a guy with all of the intangibles a chance? You're just like the talking heads who said Russell Wilson doesn't have the skills, the physique, the accuracy to succeed, and look at him now. Tebow brought a mediocre team to the playoffs. Skill or not, he did it. Call it inspiration or leadership or whatever. This team isn't good enough to make the playoffs with 6 good drafts picks and an average QB. We need those intangibles more than anything else. A team that doesn't give up. That's what Tebow can do for us. 21st D in the league, they didn't play that great. Top 10 and I'd agree. But they weren't. Peyton was on that team, and they got equally as far in the playoffs. Does that means Fitz would be equal to Peyton? My point is Tebow elevates his team. Just not by putting up 500 yards. It's a part of his package. He could give us a defense that doesn't give up in the second quarter. Your man crush on Tebow is pretty comical and unwarranted. Thanks for the laughs. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 (edited) Except the back up guard didn't have 21 TD's in 16 games. Or 2,800 yards. He's a winner. Literally,the opposite of everything you hated about our old QB. The perennial winner isn't good enough now? 20th or 21st rated D that year, I believe. Really lights out. Even if they started playing better when Tebow went in, I wonder why? Is it because he's a leader that inspired them? I wonder if the Bills would be better if they were inspired. Hmmm. Listen man. Me and every GM in the NFL agrees that Tim Tebow is not deserved of being on an NFL roster this fall. He won't be. Ryan Fitzpatrcik WILL be a 2nd string QB in the NFL this year. You and a handful of guys on this website think Tebow is a "winner" and deserved of being on an NFL roster (I can presume that right?) I take comfort in knowing that I'm on the side of every GM in the NFL. It makes me think maybe I have an understanding of the game. It is kind of arrogant to think that you are a better talent evaluator than every GM in the NFL. Edited March 17, 2013 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Tebow's won-loss record as an NFL starter is 8-6 (.571). Vince Young's is 31-19 (.620). I vote we bring Young in to compete for a job. Oh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Tebow's won-loss record as an NFL starter is 8-6 (.571). Vince Young's is 31-19 (.620). I vote we bring Young in to compete for a job. Oh wait. Well done. And what's Alex Smith's won-loss the last two years? Yet people would respond on here to the notion of getting of Alex Smith with "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) No one in the NFL seems to want Tebow but apparently the arena league is ready to welcome him with open arms: http://profootballta...am-wants-tebow/ Tim Tebow technically remains the property of the Jets, in the same way that the bags of garbage in my garage technically remain my property. Eventually, both will be put out on the curb. When that happens to Tebow, another team will play the role of the dude who rolls by in a pickup truck looking for free stuff that someone else is throwing away. The Arena Football League’s Orlando Predators would be that dude. Predators president Brett Bouchy told the Orlando Sentinel, via ESPNNewYork.com. “I think he would definitely improve as a quarterback in our league. Kurt Warner told me once that when he got back to the NFL after playing in the Arena League, the NFL game was like slow motion. Everything in the Arena League is just so much faster and quicker and predicated on accuracy. Whenever Tim is willing, we have a contract waiting for him to sign.” The fact that the indoor game is “predicated on accuracy” could be a problem for Tebow. He won’t magically acquire something he doesn’t currently have, simply because he’ll be playing at a level of the sport that supposedly places a premium on accuracy. But he may not have many/any other options. The Jets would like to trade him, but there has been no buzz about any other team being remotely interested in acquiring Tebow. After he’s inevitably cut, the question will become whether someone else will give him a chance — even if his role would only be scout-team read option specialist. Edited March 18, 2013 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 @RapSheet I asked Idzik why Tebow is on the roster. He says he's still on the team. Will let it play out and talks "competition." Still unclear why Just stalling until he's cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I'm for it. Perhaps he can play TE? Also, he did win a playoff game as a starting QB, something no one in buffalo has done in 13+ years. Not saying he will, but I'd like him (assuming he's cheap) as a TE who occasionally also lines up at QB. Def a better emergency option than Brad Smith. No one in the NFL seems to want Tebow but apparently the arena league is ready to welcome him with open arms: http://profootballta...am-wants-tebow/ Tim Tebow technically remains the property of the Jets, in the same way that the bags of garbage in my garage technically remain my property. Eventually, both will be put out on the curb. When that happens to Tebow, another team will play the role of the dude who rolls by in a pickup truck looking for free stuff that someone else is throwing away. The Arena Football League’s Orlando Predators would be that dude. Predators president Brett Bouchy told the Orlando Sentinel, via ESPNNewYork.com. “I think he would definitely improve as a quarterback in our league. Kurt Warner told me once that when he got back to the NFL after playing in the Arena League, the NFL game was like slow motion. Everything in the Arena League is just so much faster and quicker and predicated on accuracy. Whenever Tim is willing, we have a contract waiting for him to sign.” The fact that the indoor game is “predicated on accuracy” could be a problem for Tebow. He won’t magically acquire something he doesn’t currently have, simply because he’ll be playing at a level of the sport that supposedly places a premium on accuracy. But he may not have many/any other options. The Jets would like to trade him, but there has been no buzz about any other team being remotely interested in acquiring Tebow. After he’s inevitably cut, the question will become whether someone else will give him a chance — even if his role would only be scout-team read option specialist. This article is a little over the top in the anti-Tebow sentiment. (1) he will suck in the arena league? (2) an NFL team might not even have him for its scout team? REALLY!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Well done. And what's Alex Smith's won-loss the last two years? Yet people would respond on here to the notion of getting of Alex Smith with "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!" I would've brought in Smith too. If they don't work, they don't work. Trying VY was a good decision. Listen man. Me and every GM in the NFL agrees that Tim Tebow is not deserved of being on an NFL roster this fall. He won't be. Ryan Fitzpatrcik WILL be a 2nd string QB in the NFL this year. You and a handful of guys on this website think Tebow is a "winner" and deserved of being on an NFL roster (I can presume that right?) I take comfort in knowing that I'm on the side of every GM in the NFL. It makes me think maybe I have an understanding of the game. It is kind of arrogant to think that you are a better talent evaluator than every GM in the NFL. Fine, I'll take agree to disagree. Talent evaluators thought Russell Wilson wasn't worth picking up. Talent evaluators thought Brady was a 7th round throwaway pick. You have just as much understanding of the game as those guys? Pat yourself on the back for that, hombre. I wouldn't be proud of that. Finding success in the NFL is a crapshoot. Talent evaluators make mistakes all the time. Denver gambled and went to the playoffs in 2011. I'd be ok with the Bills doing that. Your man crush on Tebow is pretty comical and unwarranted. Thanks for the laughs. :lol: Posts like this on TBD are so stupid. Thanks for letting me know you have no argument by making an unfunny joke that no one on earth would laugh at, I guess? I guess it really is impossible to discuss anything without three people who post nonsense and plug their ears to any discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 tebow won a lot of games for denver. of course he isnt anything special passing the ball--and i dont think too many see him as the answer. and then some put him down for not beating out sanchez. think having sanchez in there was agood decision by the jets? tebow pretty much didnt play last year. having a winning record with a not great bronco team is not that bad. give him a chance. esp if there is nothing special available this draft.-tide us over til 014. i really think SOME of the negativity toward him is because of the fundamentalist christian displays on the field. i can see where that would rub some people the wrong way. and sorry to disagree with some on here---but this team does have little to lose.we have sucked for almost a generation. we gave up 600 yards 2 weeks in a row last year. it was beyond sad. fingers crossed on these new coaches.maybe they'll be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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