ExWNYer Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 ] Let's discuss this. I am going to be realistic and use the mid tier parameters removing Walker Jennings Wallace Cook etc. From the discussion. For me ....please let it be Delanie Walker. That's your stretch the field TE move the chains WR ST gunner and fullback all in one player. Essentially he could fill the roles of Nelson Martin McIntyre and be the athletic TE the Bills have always lacked The Brandon brothers: OG Moore & TE Myers.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 @JasonLaCanfora Just got the same word - Sam Baker is staying with the Falcons. They keep their tackle
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 Everybody relax; it won't happen this year. As George Allen would not have said, "the future is not now."
Pete Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Everybody relax; it won't happen this year. As George Allen would not have said, "the future is not now." And to paraphrase John McKay-"The Bills can't win on the road, and they can't win at home. We need to find a neutral sight" Edited March 13, 2013 by Pete
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/amendola-will-take-visits-to-for-now-undisclosed-teams/ WR Danny Amendola will visit "undisclosed teams" Asking a free agent to show discretion and keep everything behind closed doors? Sounds like Brandon's M.O.
NoSaint Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 QB and OG are 2 nice new holes to fill. It's OK, they only traded away 1 pick to move up and select TJ Graham. Remind me - how much worse did we get at qb again?
folz Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 According to ESPN and NFL.com, there are/were about 595 Free Agents (who were on an NFL roster last year). Only about 15% of them have signed thus far. That means that there are still about 500 FAs available. Maybe not all of the big names, but plenty of good players. The sky hasn't fallen yet for our Bills!
DanInUticaTampa Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 According to ESPN and NFL.com, there are/were about 595 Free Agents (who were on an NFL roster last year). Only about 15% of them have signed thus far. That means that there are still about 500 FAs available. Maybe not all of the big names, but plenty of good players. The sky hasn't fallen yet for our Bills! I dunno, I think the sky might have fallen sometime in 2005. We are just waiting for it to rise again.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 I was born a Bills fan 1969 and went to Rich Stadium as a baby. With the exception of the Superbowl years(heartbreaking in their own way), my 43 years of being a Bills fan has been futile Eastern 4th 4 10 0 1970 1970 NFL AFC East 4th 3 10 1 Dennis Shaw (OROY)(ROY) 1971 1971 NFL AFC East 5th 1 13 0 1972 1972 NFL AFC East 4th 4 9 1 1973 1973 NFL AFC East 2nd 9 5 0 O.J. Simpson (MVP)(OPOY) 1974 1974 NFL AFC East 2nd 9 5 0 Lost Divisional Playoffs (Steelers) (32–14) 1975 1975 NFL AFC East 3rd 8 6 0 1976 1976 NFL AFC East 5th 2 12 0 1977 1977 NFL AFC East 5th 3 11 0 1978 1978 NFL AFC East 4th 5 11 0 1979 1979 NFL AFC East 4th 7 9 0 Jim Haslett (DROY), Jerry Butler (ROY) 1980 1980 NFL AFC East 1st 11 5 0 Lost Divisional Playoffs (Chargers) (20–14) Joe Cribbs (ROY), Chuck Knox (COY) 1981 1981 NFL AFC East 3rd 10 6 0 Won Wild Card Playoffs (Jets) (31–27) Lost Divisional Playoffs (Bengals) (28–21) 1982[1] 1982 NFL AFC — 9th 4 5 0 1983 1983 NFL AFC East 3rd 8 8 0 1984 1984 NFL AFC East 5th 2 14 0 1985 1985 NFL AFC East 5th 2 14 0 1986 1986 NFL AFC East 4th 4 12 0 1987 1987 NFL AFC East 4th 7 8 0 Shane Conlan (DROY)(ROY) 1988 1988 NFL AFC East 1st 12 4 0 Won Divisional Playoffs (Oilers) (17–10) Lost Conference Championship (Bengals) (21–10) Marv Levy (COY) 1989 1989 NFL AFC East 1st 9 7 0 Lost Divisional Playoffs (Browns) (34–30) 1990 1990 NFL AFC East 1st 13 3 0 Won Divisional Playoffs (Dolphins) (44–34) Won Conference Championship (Raiders) (51–3) Lost Super Bowl XXV (Giants) (20–19) Bruce Smith (DPOY) 1991 1991 NFL AFC East 1st 13 3 0 Won Divisional Playoffs (Chiefs) (37–14) Won Conference Championship (Broncos) (10–7) Lost Super Bowl XXVI (Redskins) (37–24) Thurman Thomas (MVP)(OPOY) 1992 1992 NFL AFC East 2nd 11 5 0 Won Wild Card Playoffs (Oilers) (41–38) (OT)[2] Won Divisional Playoffs (Steelers) (24–3) Won Conference Championship (Dolphins) (29–10) Lost Super Bowl XXVII (Cowboys) (52–17) 1993 1993 NFL AFC East 1st 12 4 0 Won Divisional Playoffs (Raiders) (29–23) Won Conference Championship (Chiefs) (30–13) Lost Super Bowl XXVIII (Cowboys) (30–13) Marv Levy (COY) 1994 1994 NFL AFC East 4th 7 9 0 1995 1995 NFL AFC East 1st 10 6 0 Won Wild Card Playoffs (Dolphins) (37–22) Lost Divisional Playoffs (Steelers) (40–21) Bryce Paup (DPY) 1996 1996 NFL AFC East 2nd 10 6 0 Lost Wild Card Playoffs (Jaguars) (30–27) Bruce Smith (DPY) 1997 1997 NFL AFC East 4th 6 10 0 1998 1998 NFL AFC East 3rd 10 6 0 Lost Wild Card Playoffs (Dolphins) (24–17) 1999 1999 NFL AFC East 2nd 11 5 0 Lost Wild Card Playoffs (Titans) (22–16)[3] 2000 2000 NFL AFC East 4th 8 8 0 2001 2001 NFL AFC East 5th 3 13 0 2002 2002 NFL AFC East 4th 8 8 0 2003 2003 NFL AFC East 3rd 6 10 0 2004 2004 NFL AFC East 3rd 9 7 0 2005 2005 NFL AFC East 3rd 5 11 0 2006 2006 NFL AFC East 3rd 7 9 0 2007 2007 NFL AFC East 2nd 7 9 0 2008 2008 NFL AFC East 4th 7 9 0 2009 2009 NFL AFC East 4th 6 10 0 2010 2010 NFL AFC East 4th 4 12 0 2011 2011 NFL AFC East 4th 6 10 0 2012 2012 NFL AFC East 4th 6 10 0 But this is not about you, Pete. There are plenty of people here who have been Bills fans for longer than you've been alive.
outsidethebox Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 We need to find about 10 Fred Jackson clones (overachieving UDFA's). I'm serious- we need to find guys who come at a reasonable price, young, talented and coachable. Ohhh, and one other thing- they have to be willing to run through a brick wall for the coach or coordinator. They are out there, we have veteran leadership and a group of young, hungry UDFA's would at least give us something to watch as they develop. I'm ok with not signing numerous veteran FA's, saving our picks (or trading down for more) and seeing how this plays out. Marrone is a coach that players respect which equates to performance under normal circumstances- then again, this is Buffalo...but we'll see. Go Bills How do you know Marrone is a coach players respect? I don't understand how some people think they know how the coaches are going to be or how they will coach. The coaching staff hasn't said boo since they were hired.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 @AdamSchefter Cleveland back at it bright and early: Browns reached agreement with former Cardinals LB Quentin Groves.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 As discussed ad nauseum- we have many holes- QB, LB, DE, CB TE.... oh yeah a big !@#$ing hole now at RG too. Talk us off the ledge. How do the 2013 Bills put a better team on the field then last year's monstrosity? At least they are stacked at WR....
CodeMonkey Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 As discussed ad nauseum- we have many holes- QB, LB, DE, CB TE.... oh yeah a big !@#$ing hole now at RG too. Talk us off the ledge. How do the 2013 Bills put a better team on the field then last year's monstrosity? No worries. That old fox Buddy Nix is playing possum. First he arranges for that phone call recording "leak". Then sits out day one of free agency after losing his RG and cutting the best QB on his roster (not saying it was a bad move for the long term, but he was the best QB on the Bills roster). Don't you see? He is lulling everyone into a false sense of security, then he will pounce in the coming weeks and go FA shopping in the bargain bin to fill most of the holes. Then fill the rest with the draft! In all seriousness, Nix has stated in the past that you build through the draft and when you are close to contending you supplement with free agents. The Bills are rebuilding again and are not close to contending. Nix knows this and is sticking to his philosophy. What seems to be an aberration though is last years free agency, unless Nix really thought they were close to contending???
jcbillsfan Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 pace and moore would be nice cheap options, they have money to spend on a couple of solid guys if they find the right one
ny33 Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 pace and moore would be nice cheap options, they have money to spend on a couple of solid guys if they find the right one Pace was probably the worst rush LB in football last year. Moore would be a solid addition, but he might be more expensive than you think.
KOKBILLS Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 And to paraphrase John McKay-"The Bills can't win on the road, and they can't win at home. We need to find a neutral sight"
BringBackFergy Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) How do you know Marrone is a coach players respect? I don't understand how some people think they know how the coaches are going to be or how they will coach. The coaching staff hasn't said boo since they were hired. It isn't too difficult to search out background on the Coach and find where current and ex NFL players have discussed their interaction with Marrone. I am looking forward to seeing how he does with this team. I truly believe last year the Bills played uninspired football. This year, on the other hand, I believe Marrone will take a group (albeit a small group) of talented veterans and a number of rookies and UDFA's and get maximum production from them. We may not have a winning season, but we will at least have players who respond to the coach and D Coordinator. Unlike Gailey and Wanny, I firmly believe Marrone and Pettine will demand excellence rather than mediocrity. It starts with veteran leadership and it has to spread throughout the team. We need a hard nosed group of young rookies and UDFA's. Looking forward to the season. http://www.buffalobi...7d-dae6e540b50e Former NY Jets C Kevin Mawae Q: Can you talk about your general thoughts of Coach Marrone as a person and a coach? A: As a person, I think he is a great guy. Obviously having played for him as my o-line coach in New York we became friends. He was the first coach that I ever had that was close to my age in my career. We developed a personal relationship with our families together and things like that. I think he is a great guy. I think he is a good person and he is a great friend. As far as a coach, I had four great offensive line coaches when I played and he was my third one. He was a coach that brought a lot of insight to the game both from a player’s perspective, because he did play in the NFL and got a couple of years in. I thought what was really cool about him was that not only did he know how to coach the game, but he knew the history of the game. He would teach us about the history of the 4-3 and 3-4 defenses and what coach developed this scheme or that scheme. That was pretty cool from a player’s standpoint because who was someone who appreciates the game itself. He was a coach that knew what he was talking about and all of the players respected him highly for his coaching ability. Edited March 13, 2013 by BringBackFergy
Sisyphean Bills Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 Remind me - how much worse did we get at qb again? Stay tuned. We're all going to find out.
Drewgetz Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 But this is not about you, Pete. There are plenty of people here who have been Bills fans for longer than you've been alive. I may be younger (38) but my first Bills game came when I was still in the womb. Beat that!! It isn't too difficult to search out background on the Coach and find where current and ex NFL players have discussed their interaction with Marrone. I am looking forward to seeing how he does with this team. I truly believe last year the Bills played uninspired football. This year, on the other hand, I believe Marrone will take a group (albeit a small group) of talented veterans and a number of rookies and UDFA's and get maximum production from them. We may not have a winning season, but we will at least have players who respond to the coach and D Coordinator. Unlike Gailey and Wanny, I firmly believe Marrone and Pettine will demand excellence rather than mediocrity. It starts with veteran leadership and it has to spread throughout the team. We need a hard nosed group of young rookies and UDFA's. Looking forward to the season. http://www.buffalobi...7d-dae6e540b50e Former NY Jets C Kevin Mawae Q: Can you talk about your general thoughts of Coach Marrone as a person and a coach? A: As a person, I think he is a great guy. Obviously having played for him as my o-line coach in New York we became friends. He was the first coach that I ever had that was close to my age in my career. We developed a personal relationship with our families together and things like that. I think he is a great guy. I think he is a good person and he is a great friend. As far as a coach, I had four great offensive line coaches when I played and he was my third one. He was a coach that brought a lot of insight to the game both from a player’s perspective, because he did play in the NFL and got a couple of years in. I thought what was really cool about him was that not only did he know how to coach the game, but he knew the history of the game. He would teach us about the history of the 4-3 and 3-4 defenses and what coach developed this scheme or that scheme. That was pretty cool from a player’s standpoint because who was someone who appreciates the game itself. He was a coach that knew what he was talking about and all of the players respected him highly for his coaching ability. Works for me
jahnyc Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 Are there any visits to the Bills planned by any available free agents other than maybe Florence? This team is going nowhere until it has a viable, starting caliber QB.
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