seq004 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 seems to me its in between starting cb and nickel back money. Yeah I guess I should have waited to make a judgement, however he was the 11th pick in 2008 that has not lived up to that selection imo.
vincec Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) I would rather the Bills have used this money to sign Levitre. Frankly, this makes no sense to me. He has been benched over each of the last five years by different coaching staffs because he is not a starting caliber CB. Re-signing a CB who is not a starter for $5 million per year versus a starting near Pro Bowl caliber LG for $7 or 8 million per year? This is a microcosm of why the Bills have not made the playoffs in 13 years. Yes. My thoughts exactly. McKelvin may be at a more desirable position but he is no where near the player Levitre is. I'm glad he's back too but if the choice was between him and Levitre then I think they screwed up. Edited March 9, 2013 by vincec
Big C Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Hey, Don't get in the way of a good ole pitchforking! Without Kelsay, McKelvin is a prime target for unreasonable hate! Yes, we do need a new whipping boy.
seq004 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Yes. My thoughts exactly. McKelvin may be at a more desirable position but he is no where near the player Levitre is. +1
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 1) As some posters pointed out, it is funny how the media reports NFL contracts. It's a joke actually. You can sign a player for $9 trillion dollars but if only $1 million is guaranteed, guess how much the player is guaranteed to get? 2) Even if it is for $5 m/ year, people would be really pissed that the Bills signed the #1 PR, #3 KR, one of the best cover guys on kicks, and at worst a nickel corner who has all the tools to be a #1 cb? 3) Here's Devin Hester's contract: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/devin-hester/ 4) It takes care of another need before the draft. Also, Carlos Rodgers was a 1st round pick by the Skins and was thought of as a bust. He goes to SF and plays for a real defense and becomes a pro bowler. McKelvin is a sunk cost but has all the talent in the world. Confidence is a major factor with him. But given how many roles he can fill on this team, I like the signing.
Big C Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Yes. My thoughts exactly. McKelvin may be at a more desirable position but he is no where near the player Levitre is. I'm glad he's back too but if the choice was between him and Levitre then I think they screwed up. I think you are undervaluing how good McKelvin is in the return game and how important that is. And let's not get all up in arms about Levitre until he's officially gone.
Kelly the Dog Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 $7.5 mil guaranteed is very reasonable. I'm pretty happy with that.
buffalobillsgrl Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 ok.........atleast they are doing what they said, and keeping our own guys first. We may not agree on what players are the most important to keep, however they are doing it.
Hotpockets28 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) 4 year 20million dollar contract (5mill per) 7.5 is guaranteed for a average CB with below average ball skills....hmmmmm well at least he is a great kick returner!!!!... Edited March 9, 2013 by Hotpockets28
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Hey, Don't get in the way of a good ole pitchforking! Without Kelsay, McKelvin is a prime target for unreasonable hate! Excellent point!!! If he left who would we have to blame for everything this season.
buffalobillsgrl Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) I personally love flying off the handle over ever move and rumor the Bills make. It makes the off season so much more fun I change my mind every 3.2 seconds anyway Edited March 9, 2013 by buffalobillsgrl
Solomon Grundy Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Look guys Leodis played very well for us last year. It's not that he can't cover, he rarely gets burnt, it's just he has a problem finding the ball when it's in the air. I think he earned his money, unlike Fitzpatrick.
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 I am not sure how to feel about this. I think they are paying for his return skills and not so much coverage skills Agreed. What coverage skills?
H2o Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Look at the contracts of people like Devin Hester and Joshua Cribbs for example. Are they by any means great players other than their contributions on ST? No. They are both pretty crappy WR's. Hester parlayed his return prowice into 40+ million and Cribbs into 30+ million. McKelvin will be on the field a lot for us, has a chance to be a solid starter opposite Gilmore, and everyone wants to carve out a momento of male genetalia on his front lawn because he just got re-signed for 4 years @ 5 mill a pop?
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 I wonder if Buffalo's plan is to sign the guard from the Jet's who's either an UFA or rumored to be released. It may be they know what both AL and also what this guy wants. Is he as good as AL, maybe not, but they may feel the drop off in talent is low enough to be worth the tradeoff for the money saved. Kind of a moneyball type thing. I think you are undervaluing how good McKelvin is in the return game and how important that is. And let's not get all up in arms about Levitre until he's officially gone.
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Look at the contracts of people like Devin Hester and Joshua Cribbs for example. Are they by any means great players other than their contributions on ST? No. They are both pretty crappy WR's. Hester parlayed his return prowice into 40+ million and Cribbs into 30+ million. McKelvin will be on the field a lot for us, has a chance to be a solid starter opposite Gilmore, and everyone wants to carve out a momento of male genetalia on his front lawn because he just got re-signed for 4 years @ 5 mill a pop?
Hotpockets28 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 (edited) So after this move the bills have around 14 mil under the cap..atm...they will need around 6 mill for draft picks..and that leaves them with a whopping 8 million left under cap....yup this will be a explosive off season..cant wait to see the ""big time Wr"" buddy nix said he will look for in the off season Edited March 9, 2013 by Hotpockets28
Coach Tuesday Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Field position is IMO the most under-appreciated factor in football analytics. While I am miffed about Levitre, I don't view these things as binary. Paying a guy who gives the offense 20-50 fewer yards to have to gain makes sense to me, especially when he sometimes puts points on the board and fills a void on defense
RealityCheck Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Good for Leodis. Press man and a few blitzes will get him going early.
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