CardinalScotts Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Good move. Now lets make signing Levitre priority #1. Mark my words- if we !@#$ up and lose Levitre- it will be the biggest FA loss since Pat Williams. On a team with gaping holes everywhere- two positions are set- RB and Oline. Losing Levitre creates another gaping hole and would be a kick in the balls he is an offensive guard, I hope we sign him but it's easiest postion to fill on a football team
Max997 Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I don't follow your logic. this tells me they were not able to get a long term deal done with either and they chose to franshice Byrd instead of Levitre which means he will hit the market and most likely get a huge deal from another team
KD in CA Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 this tells me they were not able to get a long term deal done with either and they chose to franshice Byrd instead of Levitre which means he will hit the market and most likely get a huge deal from another team My thoughts exactly. They are looking at an OL-deep draft and thinking they can replace Levitre with an early round pick.
Nanker Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Very rare does a player "test the waters" and not leave the team he is on. Once a player feels he's not worth the extra effort to keep them, pride kick in and they walk. Letting him go is worst than letting Byrd go IMHO. He's been the only foundation this o-line has had since he came to buffalo. Played where ever they have asked and held his own. Guards are supposedly easy to find, but football players aren't. Right, like Tyson Clabo for example.
Nostradumbass Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 More water treading for one of the worst run franchises in sport Now we can say goodbye to our stud guard and we get a draft a replacement in the 2nd/3rd round. The perfect metaphor for this franchise is someone digging a hole only to use the dirt to fill a hole right beside it
Pete Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 My thoughts exactly. They are looking at an OL-deep draft and thinking they can replace Levitre with an early round pick. that would be retarded logic by the Bills. We need to spend early picks on a QB, 2+WR, 2+LB, CB, DE. What the hell? How about we give away our best lineman and create another need. If we let Levitre go I am convinced we plan on tanking this season and will go for Johnny Football 1st overall next year
Captain Hindsight Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Guess this means Levitre is mostly like gone which is a huge mistake I take it as they want to focus on Levitre without losing Byrd. Tagging Byrd ensures they can sign Andy before FA
Dorkington Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I prefer Levitre over Byrd, but I'm glad we're only losing one at least.
Steve O Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Quickie: Can you use the franchise tag and transition tag simultaneously on two different players?? Everything I've read says a team may apply one franchise or transition player each year (not "and")
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 this tells me they were not able to get a long term deal done with either and they chose to franshice Byrd instead of Levitre which means he will hit the market and most likely get a huge deal from another team I think the philosophy was tag one and negotiate with the other. If true it was much smarter to tag Byrd. As far as the tag price goes, all OL are lumped together so they'd end up paying elite LT money to a guard. I actually see this as a win-win - they buy time with Byrd and can be more aggressive with Levitre.
Nostradumbass Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 My thoughts exactly. They are looking at an OL-deep draft and thinking they can replace Levitre with an early round pick. Awesome plan! Meanwhile the holes that have remained unfilled for the past 3 years (LB, WR...) get to be filled with 4th and 5th rounders. It's akin to a person starving on a desolate island chopping off their foot for supper
Pete Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 More water treading for one of the worst run franchises in sport Now we can say goodbye to our stud guard and we get a draft a replacement in the 2nd/3rd round. The perfect metaphor for this franchise is someone digging a hole only to use the dirt to fill a hole right beside it Einsteins definition of insanity comes to mind here. Didn't we learn our lesson? We let Antoine Winfield go for nothing, then drafted Clements to replace him, then let him bolt, and drafted another CB. 1-1+1=1 how the hell are we supposed to get ahead?
cosmo Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I really don't see how this in any way insinuates that we won't re-sign Levitre. With Kelsey off the books now we should have more than enough cap space to sign him and some decent free agents, plus I doubt that teams would want to shell out tons of money for a veteran guard when this year's draft has a few studs that you could pay way less for on the new rookie wage scale.
Heitz Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 FA doesn't start until the 12th, correct? They still have time to get a long term deal done with both Byrd AND Levitre, if they want to (and can). This just ENSURES that Byrd isn't going anywhere - good move!
Nostradumbass Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I take it as they want to focus on Levitre without losing Byrd. Tagging Byrd ensures they can sign Andy before FA Levitre has been clear he wants to test the market, the only strategy that keeps both is getting a long term deal done with Byrd and then franchising Levitre
Pete Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 he is an offensive guard, I hope we sign him but it's easiest postion to fill on a football team really? Who was the last great Bills guard? Reggie McKenzie?
Pete Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I think the philosophy was tag one and negotiate with the other. If true it was much smarter to tag Byrd. As far as the tag price goes, all OL are lumped together so they'd end up paying elite LT money to a guard. I actually see this as a win-win - they buy time with Byrd and can be more aggressive with Levitre. I like your thinking and I am hoping this is true. I do think you are correct
Mark Vader Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I'm glad that Byrd is staying, but all of it will be pointless if they can not agree on a long term contract.
KD in CA Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 that would be retarded logic by the Bills. We need to spend early picks on a QB, 2+WR, 2+LB, CB, DE. What the hell? How about we give away our best lineman and create another need. If we let Levitre go I am convinced we plan on tanking this season and will go for Johnny Football 1st overall next year Well we are talking about a team that has drafted RB in the first round 3x in the past decade despite already having a 1000 back on the team. I have a hard time seeing them putting out the big cash for Levitre and if he leaves I'd bet my free hat the Bills draft OL in the first 3 rounds. That's my sad prediction.
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