KOKBILLS Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 So you're saying you would be happy if we drafted him in the 1st round!!!
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 I would not mind seeing the Bills Draft Scott either (just not in the 2nd Round)... So you're saying you would be happy if we drafted him in the 1st round!!! I don't care who we take at #8 as long as it's not Warmack.
Dibs Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 I don't care who we take at #8 as long as it's not Warmack. So you're saying you would be happy if we drafted OG Jonathan Cooper at #8!!!
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 So you're saying you would be happy if we drafted OG Jonathan Cooper at #8!!! ] :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:
KOKBILLS Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 So you're saying you would be happy if we drafted OG Jonathan Cooper at #8!!! Dibs can do this all night!!!
Santana Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 He looked good at the combine but I need to see a lot more film on him. Anyway from what I see so far from that 1 clip is that he needs to make more adjustments to pick up blitzers. They are blatantly showing him where they are coming from pre-snap and he's not even motioning guys to come back or changing the play or at least the receivers routes (hot route). Another thing is that his footwork needs A LOT of work. His arm looks decent but his sloppy and often back pedaling motion puts his passes all over the place. He reminds me a lot of Fitz to be totally honest.
djp14150 Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 I live on the west coast. Watched quite a bit of PAC 12 football as well as saw a good number of Kaepernack games. When I saw Kaep play I saw something in him.....the only issue was that I couldnt tell in watching the games was how his arm strength translated to the Pros and throwing Pro style routes. This QB from Arizona didnt scare you. Remember he was stuck behind Nick foles in the program so he had only one year playing starter. He would have probably benefited from another year as starting Q with Arizona. As it is he is slated more as a 5th round pick. Given his performance at the combine he may go up into the 4th. But I dont see the 3rd round.
1billsfan Posted March 3, 2013 Author Posted March 3, 2013 I never took issue with the suggestion...Who would? It's a message board and I welcome any conversation. I would not mind seeing the Bills Draft Scott either (just not in the 2nd Round)... But the OP still continues to compare Scott favorably with Wilson and Kaepernick as prospects...And I'll I'm saying is...That's impossible...But I'm not saying Scott does not have the potential to play in the NFL...I'm not even saying Scott can't be as good as Wilson or Kaep in the NFL (though I doubt it)...I'm saying Kaep and Wilson were not just good, but great College Football QB's, which in turn made them better NFL prospects coming out...The OP seems to think that point is incorrect because there was not enough people banging the table on TBD for Wilson and Kaep before their Drafts...I'm not trying to dis anyone...I'm arguing a point... The discussion was started because the OP made the comment that this Vid of Scott vs Stanford was likely as good as any College film on Wilson or Kaep...Which I think is a pretty outrageous statement to be honest...I mean...Y'all can argue that point among yourselves...I've rested my case on it... And to the OP 1billsfan I do apologize for being a bit of a wise-ass...I can do that sometimes...My bad...I still stand by my argument 100%...But I should not be such a dick about it either... No hard feelings at all. When I saw this video I was astonished that this kid hasn't hit the radar here or in the draft expert media. Although that may be changing... http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Fourdown-territory-Scotts-rising-stock.html "I did not foresee such a loud buzz to surround the dual-threat signal-caller after catching the eye of scouts across the league at the NFL's Scouting Combine." http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/14-Players-Who-Helped-Their-Draft-Stock-Most-At-Combine.html "12. Matt Scott, QB, Arizona: Many of the bigger names quarterbacks failed to impress at the Combine, but Scott definitely showed that he has to be considered one of the better developmental prospects. Regarded more as a run first quarterback whose strength was his athleticism, Scott’s quick release, strong arm and accuracy were much better than expected. Scott still needs a big pro day, but if he throws as well as he did in Indy then I believe he will end up climbing to the top of day three on Draft day." IMO it's for sure, he doesn't get past the Jaguars at #95. His former QB coach at Arizona is now the QB coach for the Jaguars. We all know that the new regime there can't wait to give Blaine Gabbert the boot. Also, I could see an unexpected team with a QB willing to pick Scott in the third round. San Francisco comes to mind since they have so many picks and he'd be a perfect backup if Kaepernick were to get hurt and miss some games. So if the Bills want him it would have to be their 3rd round pick but who's to say the Jags don't get "spooked" seeing his stock rise and pick him with their third rounder. I know many here think I'm crazy, but this is why I'd also consider him with the second round pick. This QB class has all the earmarkings of a dud class. After watching all of the videos, the only two QBs that I really like (they seem to have the combination of NFL level physical skills and leadership qualities) and who I think have that star QB potential is Manuel and Scott. As for Geno Smith, I just get a really bad vibe from him personality-wise. He doesn't seem like a very positive or sociable person to me. I may be wrong, but that's the vibe I get.
CSBill Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 " . . . he struggled somewhat throwing deep balls. " Don't they all ????
Mr. WEO Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Do we as Bills fans really want to look down at "sleeper QB" prospects? Stanford not good enough opponent for you? I've been watching a lot of the 2013 QB youtube videos of Smith, Barkley, Nassib, Manuel ect and not one of them has a better video showing ball throwing skills than the one I posted. That ball shoots out and is on the money every time. Bang bang. Remember, the Bills passed on Kaepernick and Wilson both of which were pretty much scoffed at by the majority of fans here (including me) as real franchise QB prospects. Not sure if either one had a much better video than Scott's Stanford game. Revisionist history much. Kaepernick and Wilson were complete afterthoughts here. I went back and looked at the archives. There were only a few that liked them enough for the Bills to pick them. Where was this love of these guys from you before their drafts? If you can't post such a thing then you really have no business mocking anyone liking Scott over any of these bozos in this draft class. If you're so certain, please show me a better (key word) college game video of Wilson or Kaepernick than Scott displays here against Stanford. Dude, I'm here almost everyday. I went back into the damn TSW archives. There was NO clamoring for drafting either of these two players PERIOD By "no clamoring" I mean other than a few fans showing passionate support for the Bills drafting of either Kaepernick or Wilson. It nice that you posted the college stats of these guys, but where was this fervor from you in April 2011 or April 2012? It's AMAZING the clarity you have now for these guys. You are basically saying "I told you so" even though you never actually really did tell us so before their respective drafts. The reality is that Matt Scott looks ever bit the NFL QB that Kaepernick and Wilson did when they were being evaluated. I really don't care that he only has one year to look at. That was the case with Cam Newton. I think the long college career thing is played out. I'm not in fear of making another one year wonder Aaron Maybin mistake because I never thought he was big enough in the first place. These college players today are no longer intimidated by the NFL like they were years ago. Matt Scott does not seem intimidated and appears to have the same "I'm really good, you'll see" attitude that both Kaepernick and Wilson had coming into the NFL. A month ago, you started this thread... "I just went to the forum archive and searched "Colin Kaepernick". In a word, painful. In another word, why. I'm not posting the links because it's not fair to the people who didn't like Kaepernick at all. It seems I was very high on Newton and didn't even give Kaepernick a second thought. I was amazed at some of the people here who were dead on about this guy. Big props for that. I will be watching the Superbowl today with some anger that the Bills took Williams when they could drafted had Kaepernick. I'll wonder what was going on in the Bills draft room that day. Were they scared off of him because he looked (not size) and played a similar style of QB to JP Losman and they "didn't want to go there"? Did they really like him, but as a 3rd round pick? There had to be a discussion because there were a lot of discussions here about drafting Kaepernick in the second. Maybe Buddy's comments about now having to draft QBs a round earlier than you'd like pertains specifically to Colin Kaepernick." You're a riot. The funniest part of all of this is that you are arguning with other posters and your only knowledge of Scott is from a single youtube clip! You previously touted the Bills picking Geno. Then you were all over Manuel for a while: "It's still early in the draft season, but he's been my guy who I think will be the safest bet for a franchise, and even possible elite, QB in this class." "EJ Manuel perfectly fits the new model of early QB success. Athletic, scrambling, fearless QB with a very good arm who can easily have a quick rise to success against the toothless defenses of today's NFL." ...Or wait, was that Scott?... I could go on--there is so much pure gold in your content. But I'll let you continue. This is awesome. Edited March 3, 2013 by Mr. WEO
Dibs Posted March 3, 2013 Posted March 3, 2013 A month ago, you started this thread... "I just went to the forum archive and searched "Colin Kaepernick". In a word, painful. In another word, why. I'm not posting the links because it's not fair to the people who didn't like Kaepernick at all. It seems I was very high on Newton and didn't even give Kaepernick a second thought. I was amazed at some of the people here who were dead on about this guy. Big props for that. I will be watching the Superbowl today with some anger that the Bills took Williams when they could drafted had Kaepernick. I'll wonder what was going on in the Bills draft room that day. Were they scared off of him because he looked (not size) and played a similar style of QB to JP Losman and they "didn't want to go there"? Did they really like him, but as a 3rd round pick? There had to be a discussion because there were a lot of discussions here about drafting Kaepernick in the second. Maybe Buddy's comments about now having to draft QBs a round earlier than you'd like pertains specifically to Colin Kaepernick." You're a riot. The funniest part of all of this is that you are arguning with other posters and your only knowledge of Scott is from a single youtube clip! You previously touted the Bills picking Geno. Then you were all over Manuel for a while: "It's still early in the draft season, but he's been my guy who I think will be the safest bet for a franchise, and even possible elite, QB in this class." "EJ Manuel perfectly fits the new model of early QB success. Athletic, scrambling, fearless QB with a very good arm who can easily have a quick rise to success against the toothless defenses of today's NFL." ...Or wait, was that Scott?... I could go on--there is so much pure gold in your content. But I'll let you continue. This is awesome. I think this is where the young whippersnappers say "pwned".
1billsfan Posted March 3, 2013 Author Posted March 3, 2013 A month ago, you started this thread... "I just went to the forum archive and searched "Colin Kaepernick". In a word, painful. In another word, why. I'm not posting the links because it's not fair to the people who didn't like Kaepernick at all. It seems I was very high on Newton and didn't even give Kaepernick a second thought. I was amazed at some of the people here who were dead on about this guy. Big props for that. I will be watching the Superbowl today with some anger that the Bills took Williams when they could drafted had Kaepernick. I'll wonder what was going on in the Bills draft room that day. Were they scared off of him because he looked (not size) and played a similar style of QB to JP Losman and they "didn't want to go there"? Did they really like him, but as a 3rd round pick? There had to be a discussion because there were a lot of discussions here about drafting Kaepernick in the second. Maybe Buddy's comments about now having to draft QBs a round earlier than you'd like pertains specifically to Colin Kaepernick." You're a riot. The funniest part of all of this is that you are arguning with other posters and your only knowledge of Scott is from a single youtube clip! You previously touted the Bills picking Geno. Then you were all over Manuel for a while: "It's still early in the draft season, but he's been my guy who I think will be the safest bet for a franchise, and even possible elite, QB in this class." "EJ Manuel perfectly fits the new model of early QB success. Athletic, scrambling, fearless QB with a very good arm who can easily have a quick rise to success against the toothless defenses of today's NFL." ...Or wait, was that Scott?... I could go on--there is so much pure gold in your content. But I'll let you continue. This is awesome. Eactly how is "some of the people were dead on" equate to there being a clamoring for Kaeprnick on TSW? Also, the "there were a lot of discussions" comment didn't mean that there was a clamoring for Kaepernick. If anything, it was more so the opposite of that. The majority of the fans here didn't want the Bills to draft him in either rd 1 or rd 2 of the 2011 draft. I'm not apologizing for being open minded with regards to the QB position and who the Bills should draft, I still am. Only it's down to two QBs now...either Matt Scott and EJ Manuel...LOL
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 Eactly how is "some of the people were dead on" equate to there being a clamoring for Kaeprnick on TSW? Also, the "there were a lot of discussions" comment didn't mean that there was a clamoring for Kaepernick. If anything, it was more so the opposite of that. The majority of the fans here didn't want the Bills to draft him in either rd 1 or rd 2 of the 2011 draft. I'm not apologizing for being open minded with regards to the QB position and who the Bills should draft, I still am. Only it's down to two QBs now...either Matt Scott and EJ Manuel...LOL Maybe clamoring is too strong a word but there was plenty of support for Kaepernick in 2011. Pretty much every day Tonyjustbecause made the case for Kaepernick. OldTimer posted several times in favor of drafting him as did mrags, Tipster, Reddogblitz, CoachTuesday, Beerball, and yours truly. Many of us were liking him in a trade down in the middle of round one and when he was still available in 2nd round, it became a no-brainer to draft him in the view of many here.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 4, 2013 Posted March 4, 2013 edit: In recollecting, I wanted the Bills to draft Jabaal Sheard when they drafted Aaron Williams. But I liked Kaepernick a great deal.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Scott would seem to be a good fit with the offense of new Eagles coach Chip Kelly, who offered Scott a scholarship to Oregon after the quarterback had already committed to Arizona. Scott said other teams expressing the most interest at this point include Arizona, Seattle, Washington, Buffalo, Jacksonsville and San Diego. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/arizona-qb-scott-sharp-high-230010198--nfl.html
biggerdaddynj Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 Here's some more for those who are interested (Scott is now being mentioned as a potential 3rd rd pick): http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildcatreport/2013/03/07/arizona-pro-day-matt-scott-airs-it-out-preps-for-interview-with-eagles/ http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildcatreport/2013/03/07/richrod-matt-scott-as-good-a-thrower-as-ive-coached-or-competed-against/ http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/21826452/pro-days-interest-high-in-arizona-qb-scott-after-pro-day http://www.foxsportsarizona.com/03/07/13/Scott-great-again-at-Arizonas-Pro-Day/landing_azwildcats.html?blockID=875547&feedID=3613
1billsfan Posted March 8, 2013 Author Posted March 8, 2013 "When the day was done a number of coaches were of the opinion Scott could actually sneak into the late part of round two." http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/?p=6811 I know there are many posters here who have ignored Matt Scott being picked by the Buffalo Bills as a viable "franchise QB" option this coming draft. However after blowing up his pro day (see the links above by other posters), some of these fans who have ignored him had better start coming to realization that he will be picked ahead of Ryan Nassib. It's funny to me how the "Ryan Nassib" thread has 39 pages and 60,000 views and this thread has a paltry 4 pages and less than 4,000 views, however Ryan Nassib is simply not a viable option for the Bills who are in pursuit of a true franchise QB. Matt Scott is that kind of a player, and until now he's been by far the most under rated player this draft season. He has the entire package, the ability to throw, AND has speed AND has athleticism, AND is very competitive. I think guys like Barkley and Nassib are "old school" facades for what's really going on in the background. Teams want QBs like Smith, Manuel or Scott. Where they go is obviously a mystery. But there it is, someone has projected Matt Scott as possibly going in the 2nd round! This is something Bills fans should start paying close attention to.
Mr. WEO Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 "When the day was done a number of coaches were of the opinion Scott could actually sneak into the late part of round two." http://www.draftinsi...et/blog/?p=6811 I know there are many posters here who have ignored Matt Scott being picked by the Buffalo Bills as a viable "franchise QB" option this coming draft. However after blowing up his pro day (see the links above by other posters), some of these fans who have ignored him had better start coming to realization that he will be picked ahead of Ryan Nassib. It's funny to me how the "Ryan Nassib" thread has 39 pages and 60,000 views and this thread has a paltry 4 pages and less than 4,000 views, however Ryan Nassib is simply not a viable option for the Bills who are in pursuit of a true franchise QB. Matt Scott is that kind of a player, and until now he's been by far the most under rated player this draft season. He has the entire package, the ability to throw, AND has speed AND has athleticism, AND is very competitive. I think guys like Barkley and Nassib are "old school" facades for what's really going on in the background. Teams want QBs like Smith, Manuel or Scott. Where they go is obviously a mystery. But there it is, someone has projected Matt Scott as possibly going in the 2nd round! This is something Bills fans should start paying close attention to. Maybe it's because you admitted in your OP that you have only seen him play in a single youtube clip....
1billsfan Posted March 8, 2013 Author Posted March 8, 2013 Maybe it's because you admitted in your OP that you have only seen him play in a single youtube clip.... As per San Jose Bills Fan's link, there are reportedly seven teams interested in Matt Scott...Arizona, Seattle, Philadelphia, Washington, Buffalo, Jacksonsville and San Diego. I count two for Ryan Nassib..Buffalo and the New York Jets. I still stand by my initial reaction to the video of Scott ripping up Stanford's defense, and it seems his rise up the draft board backs up that reaction. If the Bills don't take Matt Scott in the 2nd round, there's a very good chance he'll be gone before their 3rd round pick. This is major news IMO.
Mr. WEO Posted March 8, 2013 Posted March 8, 2013 As per San Jose Bills Fan's link, there are reportedly seven teams interested in Matt Scott...Arizona, Seattle, Philadelphia, Washington, Buffalo, Jacksonsville and San Diego. I count two for Ryan Nassib..Buffalo and the New York Jets. I still stand by my initial reaction to the video of Scott ripping up Stanford's defense, and it seems his rise up the draft board backs up that reaction. If the Bills don't take Matt Scott in the 2nd round, there's a very good chance he'll be gone before their 3rd round pick. This is major news IMO. Well, not really. 6 of those teams are ones Matt Scott reports are interested in him. So, consider the source. Anyway, that articl makes it seem he will struggle to keep his weight much over 200 lbs. Lightweight QBs haven't fared so well in the NFL..
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