truth on hold Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 That was less entertaining than actual C-SPAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 That was less entertaining than actual C-SPAN. exhibit A for why Sat Night Live is the now the owner of the title "slightly more popular than Mad TV was before it was canceled" these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 A good parody of the absurdity of Hagel being attacked for saying our interests don't always coincide with Israel's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I don't watch Saturday Night Liberalism anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 A good parody of the absurdity of Hagel being attacked for saying our interests don't always coincide with Israel's. Holy spin Batman ! 1. In 2006, Hagel used the term “Jewish lobby,” a phrase some in the Jewish and pro-Israel communities have found offensive. 2. Called for “direct, unconditional, and comprehensive talks with the Government of Iran.” 3. Long record of opposing sanctions on Iran — he was one of two senators to oppose the Iran-Libya Sanctions Act in 2001 4. In 2006, in the wake of a conflict between Israel and Hezbollah forces in Lebanon, was “one of only 12 Senators who refused to write the EU asking them to declare Hezbollah a terrorist organization” 5. Has called for direct talks with Hamas, a group designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization, and one that has pledged to destroy Israel. 6. In 1999, was the only member of the Senate who did not sign a letter opposing growing anti-Semitism in Russia. At the time, a spokeswoman for the senator said Hagel had a policy of not sending letters concerning internal matters to foreign leaders. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/chuck-hagel-critics-case-85842.html#ixzz2LAfgi9WF "saying our interests don't always coincide with Israel's."..................................lol . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Holy spin Batman ! http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/chuck-hagel-critics-case-85842.html#ixzz2LAfgi9WF "saying our interests don't always coincide with Israel's."..................................lol . Interesting read on the second link:http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002471.php A quote from his letter to GWB: "An approach such as this would strengthen our ability across the board to deal with Iran. Our friends and allies would be more confident to stand with us if we seek to increase pressure, including tougher sanctions on Iran. It could create a historic new dynamic in US-Iran relations, in part forcing the Iranians to react to the possibility of better relations with the West. We should be prepared that any dialogue process with Iran will take time, and we should continue all efforts, as you have, to engage Iran from a position of strength. We should not wait to consider the option of bilateral talks until all other diplomatic options are exhausted. At that point, it could well be too late." And the author of the piece linked to said "I am in complete agreement" with the content of Hagel's letter. It would be good to have someone with an alternative POV rather than a team of lemmings. I'm sure the other items need to have some context as well, as opposed providing a list that makes a republican senator look like a radical Muslim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 This is what SNL has stooped to - jokes about bestiality? Really? Giving a donkey a blow job? Could the political hyperbole be any sleazier? It's not even funny. Eat a basket of elephant **** Joe. Now THAT's funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Another day, another anti-Israel Chuck Hagel speech discovered Chuck Hagel probably regrets ever accepting a speaking engagement at Rutgers University. The Washington Free Beacon has uncovered another Hagel speech on the New Jersey campus, this one from 2010, in which Hagel claims that Israel is 'headed toward apartheid,' that Prime Minister Netanyahu is a 'radical,' and that Hamas must be brought into the negotiations At the time, Hagel was on campus at Rutgers as the Clifford P. Case Professor of Public Affairs. But the key to this one is the demand that we negotiate with Hamas. That and the term 'apartheid,' which I don't recall any other American politician using in connection with Israel. Hagel is beyond the pale. http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2013/02/another-day-another-anti-israel-chuck.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Another day, another anti-Israel Chuck Hagel speech discovered Chuck Hagel probably regrets ever accepting a speaking engagement at Rutgers University. The Washington Free Beacon has uncovered another Hagel speech on the New Jersey campus, this one from 2010, in which Hagel claims that Israel is 'headed toward apartheid,' that Prime Minister Netanyahu is a 'radical,' and that Hamas must be brought into the negotiations At the time, Hagel was on campus at Rutgers as the Clifford P. Case Professor of Public Affairs. But the key to this one is the demand that we negotiate with Hamas. That and the term 'apartheid,' which I don't recall any other American politician using in connection with Israel. Hagel is beyond the pale. http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2013/02/another-day-another-anti-israel-chuck.html Why is that an off limits comment? Many political analysts (including inside israel) say the same thing about Israels political future if there's no 2-state solution and the settlements - something netanyahu is a champion of - continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Why is that an off limits comment? Many political analysts (including inside israel) say the same thing about Israels political future if there's no 2-state solution and the settlements - something netanyahu is a champion of - continue. Certainly he is free to offer that opinion Joseph, but since it is not the official view of the United States, then perhaps he would not be the best choice for Sec. of Defense. In point of fact......................few people think that he is. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hagel ‘Almost Had Tears in His Eyes’ When He Learned Phrase ‘Jewish Lobby’ Was Offensive According to Chuck Schumer, Chuck Hagel didn’t know that the term “Jewish Lobby” could be considered offensive, and he nearly cried when he heard the explanation: And I told him what a double standard is. That Jewish people throughout the centuries have suffered a double standard. Everyone could be a farmer except Jewish people. Everyone could live in Moscow except Jewish people. I said when everyone else can lobby but all of a sudden when those of us who are pro-Israel lobby, it’s a negative, that’s a double standard. And I’m sure you didn’t mean it, but it harkens to the old days. And he really, you know, he almost had tears in his eyes when he understood. So I believe he will be good. I don’t know what’s sadder, that Schumer was reassured by the possibility that Hagel is just really dumb and not anti-Semitic, or that he believes that this explanation will be comforting to the American people. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Hagel ‘Almost Had Tears in His Eyes’ When He Learned Phrase ‘Jewish Lobby’ Was Offensive According to Chuck Schumer, Chuck Hagel didn’t know that the term “Jewish Lobby” could be considered offensive, and he nearly cried when he heard the explanation: And I told him what a double standard is. That Jewish people throughout the centuries have suffered a double standard. Everyone could be a farmer except Jewish people. Everyone could live in Moscow except Jewish people. I said when everyone else can lobby but all of a sudden when those of us who are pro-Israel lobby, it’s a negative, that’s a double standard. And I’m sure you didn’t mean it, but it harkens to the old days. And he really, you know, he almost had tears in his eyes when he understood. So I believe he will be good. I don’t know what’s sadder, that Schumer was reassured by the possibility that Hagel is just really dumb and not anti-Semitic, or that he believes that this explanation will be comforting to the American people. . Seriously, politicians make faux pas all of the time. What's your angle on this? Why does it bother you? I want someone who isn't going to kiss Israel's butt. It's time to start questioning their actions. They want the US to go do their dirty work, first with Iraq, and now iran. I seriously want someone who wants to try to negotiate and open discussions instead of bombing first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Seriously, politicians make faux pas all of the time. What's your angle on this? Why does it bother you? I want someone who isn't going to kiss Israel's butt. It's time to start questioning their actions. They want the US to go do their dirty work, first with Iraq, and now iran. I seriously want someone who wants to try to negotiate and open discussions instead of bombing first. TPS is not a friend of Israel...our closest ally in the area and our blood brother...you are satan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 TPS is not a friend of Israel...our closest ally in the area and our blood brother...you are satan Just trying to make sure I piss everyone off. I'm an equal opportunity irritator... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Just trying to make sure I piss everyone off. I'm an equal opportunity irritator... What should be pissing everyone off is many of our politicians placing greater priority on what he said/she said about Israel (or any other country) over protecting america. Edited February 21, 2013 by Joe_the_6_pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Seriously, politicians make faux pas all of the time. What's your angle on this? Why does it bother you? I want someone who isn't going to kiss Israel's butt. It's time to start questioning their actions. They want the US to go do their dirty work, first with Iraq, and now iran. I seriously want someone who wants to try to negotiate and open discussions instead of bombing first. Iraq??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Iraq??! Iraq was the root of all evils haven't you heard? Sadam pissed us off publicly therefore his continued existence was evidence you could piss us off and live to tell about it/kill those who rose against you in your time of vulnerability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Iraq was the root of all evils haven't you heard? Sadam pissed us off publicly therefore his continued existence was evidence you could piss us off and live to tell about it/kill those who rose against you in your time of vulnerability. TPS claimed that Israel was the reason for the invasion of Iraq (if I read correctly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 TPS claimed that Israel was the reason for the invasion of Iraq (if I read correctly). duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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