JPS Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 cutting him does not help much with the cap but what it saves is over $7 million in actual dollars. I think it's $10 M. $3M in roster bonus plus $7M in salary.
BringBackFergy Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 QB Jackson re-signs with Bills “I spoke with Ryan (Fitzpatrick) and Tarvaris (Jackson) and told them we will have an open competition at the quarterback position – similar to what we will do at all positions on our team heading into our offseason work,” said Marrone. Ummm, that does NOT sound like they are ditching Fitz. Cue the freakout. Just how open is this competition?? I mean, should I be blowing the dust off my replica 1970's Bills Helmet with cracked foam padding and cloth chin strap and start warming up my arm??
Nanker Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Guys, Fitz isn't going anywhere. Jeebus. It'll cost more to cut him than keep him. ^ !sihT
NoSaint Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 No one here cares about cash savings. Just cap hit. and none of here are deciding this. the people that are may care. additionally, if we take the hit this year, we dont have to take a hit next year which a lot of fans seem to forget. keep him around and he hits atleast 2 years caps. (not advocating the cut, just pointing out some stuff)
Max997 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Okay, fair enough. But the $450K they save--will they be paying more or less than that to the man they'll HAVE to replace him with. do you not understand the difference between cap money and real money? just because they wont save much off the salary cap doesnt mean they wont save actual money. You also dont keep a player making 10.45 mil just because it will only save you 450k off the salary capFitz will be staying with the Bills after getting restructured
Bronc24 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I've been simmering all day....you know what cutting Fitz does? It shows the good fans of this franchise that the "ceiling" of wins that piece of crap offers is not good enough. So we take the cap hit. Who cares? Is not taking the hit worth another 6 win season? By retaining Fitz, you are already declaring "we want to pick in the top ten next year". I don't know if a rookie will be any better, but at least a rookie has room for growth. Fitzpatrick has none. Great job handling the most important position on a football team, Mr. Nix. Well done. Can't wait for the revelation that you were on Belicheck's payroll.
NewEra Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 This team is a joke. So we have our quarterbacks for 2013. Fitz, TJax and Aaron Corps. Wow? I guess clueless Buddy Nix wanted to try to save face for giving up a draft pick for Jackson and never having him active on game day? Looks like another dismal, losing, normal Bills season in 2013. Can it get any more depressing? If it a true "open competition" like Marone says it will be, even though he sucks, TJax would beat out Fitz. Let's hope so, because if Fitz is the better of the two, God, I don't even want to think about it. I think your post means that you're clueless. It's February 15th. There's time. If this so happens to be the only 3 QBs we have added when the season starts, it means one thing. They want a top 5 pick and to draft a QB next year. While it may be the best idea IMO, I can't envision Marrone thinking the same.
fansince88 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Predicted this. Now we cut Fitz, Draft the future in the 1st or 2nd round and pick up someone else as an UDFA.
NewEra Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 You are welcome Rainbow Randy. If Fitz does remain on the roster at his current salary, of course he will be the starter, Ralph isn't going to pay a backup that much. If anything, Jackson is a better fit for Hackett's offense then Fitz is, so hopefully this signing is the beginning of the end for Fitz. Although, they were told it was a open competition, so unless Marone's word is as believable as Buddy Nix's has been for the past 3+ years, kinda hard to compete if you aren't here? Fritz is currently on the team, under contract. Of course he's going to say that. If he has thoughts of cutting fritz, do you think he's going to tell some reporter about it during a conversation about resigning tjack?
BRAWNDO Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Yeah, but does anyone really believe they are gonna pay Fitz 10 mil to sit behind TJ? I think Fitz is smart enough to realize that a restructured contract is his best shot of staying with the Bills.
jaybee Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Fitzpatrick is the best QB on the roster at the moment.
The Big Cat Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 do you not understand the difference between cap money and real money? just because they wont save much off the salary cap doesnt mean they wont save actual money. You also dont keep a player making 10.45 mil just because it will only save you 450k off the salary capFitz will be staying with the Bills after getting restructured That's all well and good, but from a personnel standpoint, it makes no sense to cut him before training camp. And it only makes sense to cut him DURING training camp if a rookie quarterback is as good or better.
Bronc24 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Fitzpatrick is the best QB on the roster at the moment. How do you know that? Head to head stats vs. TJax last year? Career winning %? Just because Gailey refused to even consider activating TJax last season does not mean he's not an equitable or better QB. This is the same coach who, remember, was at times blatant about not giving the ball to our best offensive player. Pardon me if I don't defer my opinion to the wisdom of Chan Gailey.
Wing Man Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Benedictus XVI must be going to the Chiefs.
jaybee Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Unitas/Moral......Montana/Young.......Lamonica/Blanda............Morton/Staubach..........Tjax/Corp.
KOKBILLS Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Fitzpatrick is the best QB on the roster at the moment. Which is exactly why the Bills suck at the moment...
QCity Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Just because Gailey refused to even consider activating TJax last season does not mean he's not an equitable or better QB. This is the same coach who, remember, was at times blatant about not giving the ball to our best offensive player. Pardon me if I don't defer my opinion to the wisdom of Chan Gailey. TJax was winded last year.
KOKBILLS Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I've been simmering all day....you know what cutting Fitz does? It shows the good fans of this franchise that the "ceiling" of wins that piece of crap offers is not good enough. So we take the cap hit. Who cares? Is not taking the hit worth another 6 win season? By retaining Fitz, you are already declaring "we want to pick in the top ten next year". I don't know if a rookie will be any better, but at least a rookie has room for growth. Fitzpatrick has none. Great job handling the most important position on a football team, Mr. Nix. Well done. Can't wait for the revelation that you were on Belicheck's payroll. Agreed... Though I have no idea about the Belichick thing...
CodeMonkey Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Great job handling the most important position on a football team, Mr. Nix. Well done. Can't wait for the revelation that you were on Belicheck's payroll. That cheating bastard! I knew there was a reason Nix hired Gailey and gave Fitz the big contract! Well played Mr. BellyCheat ... well played.
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