1billsfan Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I don't claim to have any expertise on this years QB draft class, but, depending on who you listen to, there is not a "franchise QB" (or not more than one) in this years draft. Personally, I would prefer a year of Fitz/Jackson trying to game manage the Bills to a winning record for a season, than picking a QB in the first round, just to appease fans, and to be able to say we have a "franchise QB"...just to find out, in another 3 years that we still need a QB. We went through that with Losman already... All I can think is that Jackson must have heard some positive stuff from the new coaches. There were a few teams rumored to be interested in him...if he didn't feel like had a real shot, I can't imagine his experience in Buffalo last season was enough to make him want to stick around for more. I'm with you on there not being a franchise type QB worthy at #8. However, I do hope the Bills can somehow get EJ Manuel with their second pick by possibly moving ahead of the pack in round two. I think Manuel may end up being the "Kaepernick" of this draft. Great size, mobility, and skill set, yet is still somehow downgraded by the old school group think tank. The kid just needs a year to learn. To me, he has real franchise/elite QB potential. He reminds me a lot like Steve McNair.
QCity Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Almost $15 million for fitz and jackson, I'am out If we take a QB 8th overall tack on another $3.5M lol
26CornerBlitz Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 @john_wawrow #Bills re-sign QB Tarvaris Jackson; Fitzpatrick isn't going anywhere either, and will compete for starting job. http://bit.ly/Xej3me
Mr. WEO Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 lol Bills. Maybe Hackett was intrigued after he watched all of that TJ film from last season.
Heitz Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Actually been signed up since 2003, just don't post much.
VADC Bills Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Any word on other QB's we may bring into camp?
KeisterHollow Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Keep this in mind (I am hoping): Buffalo releases Fitz - as of now - they still are on the hook for his pay. Cutting him saves half a million? It just doesn't make sense to cut him - UNLESS he restructures his contract. But why would he agree to lower his contract if he knew the Bills really wanted to dump him? Of course, the truth is always somewhere in between it all, but lowering his contract would make keeping or DUMPING him easier, and that isn't getting done unless he believes he's got a shot to start.
BuffBill Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Thank you Captain Sunshine. I don't believe that Fitz will remain on the roster. If he does, he most certainly will not be the starter. Jackson seems to fit the offensive philosophy of Marrone/Hackett. I would have no problem with him being the starter opening day while a rookie learns the system in order to take over. Seems like a pretty good strategy to me. Mark my words, signing Jackson will have zero impact on the Bills drafting a QB. They still will draft the best QB they can get in either round 1 or 2. Fitz will be gone soon enough and Corp is there as QB 3. You are welcome Rainbow Randy. If Fitz does remain on the roster at his current salary, of course he will be the starter, Ralph isn't going to pay a backup that much. If anything, Jackson is a better fit for Hackett's offense then Fitz is, so hopefully this signing is the beginning of the end for Fitz. Although, they were told it was a open competition, so unless Marone's word is as believable as Buddy Nix's has been for the past 3+ years, kinda hard to compete if you aren't here? Edited February 15, 2013 by BuffBill
BobbyC81 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Interesting. Not sure what to think just yet. I guess that is why having a new coahing staff makes all of this more interesting......we just don't know exactly what they have in mind yet. Let's re-sign Kirk Morrison also and watch him win a starting job. Edited February 15, 2013 by LittleJoeCartwright
Maddog69 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I could be wrong (i usually am. LOL). But my gut tells me that re-signing TJax is an indication that Fitz is not willing to accept a reasonable restructure. Now that they have TJax signed as a veteran backup/placeholder, they can play hardball with Fitz and cut him if he refuses to accept their terms. If Fitz stays, we have 2 solid veterans along with whatever rookie QB they undoubtedly will draft. If Fitz goes, they still have Jackson and can easily find a 3rd qb from the other available veterans (Moore, Campbell, Stanton, etc)
Kelly the Dog Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 The team simply doesn't know which of the QBs they somewhat like in the draft will be available, combined with the players they like at other need positions when their number in each of the first three rounds is up. This just gives them insurance. They are both good back up Qbs. Yes, we don't have a solid starter yet but depending on who we draft, and depending on how well he plays in camp, we could either keep all three or cut one of Fitz or Tjax. If a trade for Alex smith or Flynn or someone becomes an option they still just cut one or the other and draft a rookie high too. It's a good move. Hopefully Tjax is a backup though.
Maddog69 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Keep this in mind (I am hoping): Buffalo releases Fitz - as of now - they still are on the hook for his pay. Cutting him saves half a million? It just doesn't make sense to cut him - UNLESS he restructures his contract. But why would he agree to lower his contract if he knew the Bills really wanted to dump him? Of course, the truth is always somewhere in between it all, but lowering his contract would make keeping or DUMPING him easier, and that isn't getting done unless he believes he's got a shot to start. cutting him does not help much with the cap but what it saves is over $7 million in actual dollars.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Just received word. man TJ must have no other options than to sign here and I can't believe we signed him
Haven Moses Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Hackett was in Buffalo when Fitz got here. There is a connection.
BobbyC81 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I'd hope that any information given out publicly at this point could not be used to help other teams determine our plans on draft day. Then someone needs to put a muzzle on Nix.
jumbalaya Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 tj has a much better arm and better legs than fitz. he cannot do any worse. I'd rather see him win the starting job and they grab a good QB in rd 2 or 3. Take the best player in round 1, probably Warmack the G from Bama would look good in Bills white, blue & red.
Solomon Grundy Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 At least the 7th rd pick didn't go to waste!?!
Mark Vader Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Almost $15 million for fitz and jackson, I'am out Yeesh, that's a lot of money for these guys. The Bills have to do something about Fitz's contract. It would be great if they could get Fitz to take a pay cut instead of a restructure, but I doubt that will happen. If Jackson wins this open competition that Marrone has talked about, the Bills and Fitz cannot justify that big contract. Jackson did only sign for one year. Makes you wonder if has a chance at any longevity with the Bills. This offseason is getting more and more interesting.
JPS Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Clearly "they" didn't know what they were talking about if they included Thigpen in the conversation. You might get used to the idea. There are many people here who don't ever want to see Fitz play another down of football for the Buffalo Bills. However many of those same people are resigned to the fact that cutting Fitz makes zero sense from an economic standpoint. Dude. Cutting Fitz saves them every dollar they WOULD have to pay him. Like $10 M in actual, hard money cash. If they cut him, his bonus gets accelerated and the Bills get charged $10 M against the cap, but it's accounting. The Bills save $10 Million dollars by cutting Fitz. That makes a ton of economic sense where I'm from. And forget what Marrone says. He doesn't have a say on the "groceries". I think Fitz is cut in the next 2 weeks. The "open competition" comment is standard coach speak and applies to every position. I think TJack is your starter for 8 games in this upcoming 2-14 season. Edited February 15, 2013 by JPS
beerme1 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Getting my popcorn ready... Nothing more entertaining than a mid-February TBD Freakout. Draft day meltdowns rule! There have been some memorable ones.
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