BrooklynBills Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 i like this move. T Jack has some talent and athleticism. He got a real raw deal last year. Embarrassing that he didn't even dress for a game.
jabtot Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I think that they believe what I do....there is not a QB worthy of the 8th pick unless it's Geno Smith. They will have to wait till round 2 to address the QB situation. I would like to see Wilson from Arkansas if he is there....Nassib, maybe. They may all be gone by the 2nd round.
BuffBill Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 If it weren't for Fitzpatrick's contract, I'd say T-Jack is the one QB I'd be okay with the Bills keeping around as a backup - now, Fitz, at 2-3 million a year would be a good backup, but at his current cap hit, I just don't know - maybe this is Marone's way of telling Fitz to restructure or its over? We'll see how it plays out. I think, though, it looks more and more likely the Bills won't be getting a QB until round 2-3, which means it'll definitely be an open competition. I get the feeling that if Fitz is still around and doesn't restructure, in other words, plays on his current contract, it won't really be an open competition, especially if Ralph is still coherent enough to realize he isn't paying a backup that much. i like this move. T Jack has some talent and athleticism. He got a real raw deal last year. Embarrassing that he didn't even dress for a game. Resigning Jackson doesn't bother me, it is the part where it is alluded to that Fitz will still be here.
Max997 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Guys, Fitz isn't going anywhere. Jeebus. It'll cost more to cut him than keep him. That is completely inaccurate Fitz is due a bonus which would bring his salary to 10.45 with a cap number of 10 so cutting him would save 450k in salary cap money but 10.45 mil in real money. The logical scenario was always to restructure his contract I take this news as both open competition for starting QB and roster spot as they will most likely be adding a rookie QB Edited February 15, 2013 by Max997
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I am not sure what I think about Tavaris. He was absolutely awful in Minnisota. Decent at best in Seattle. For what it's worth on NFL Radio they were discussing whether or not to release Fitz. The consensus was they would be terrified to have Tavarius or Thigpen have to see game time or start a string of games. Fitz should stay Clearly "they" didn't know what they were talking about if they included Thigpen in the conversation. Resigning Jackson doesn't bother me, it is the part where it is alluded to that Fitz will still be here. You might get used to the idea. There are many people here who don't ever want to see Fitz play another down of football for the Buffalo Bills. However many of those same people are resigned to the fact that cutting Fitz makes zero sense from an economic standpoint.
Dibs Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 It's impossible to speculate on what this means to Bills strategy unless we know the details of Jackson's contract.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 That is completely inaccurate Fitz is due a bonus which would bring his salary to 10.45 with a cap number of 10 so cutting him would save 450k in salary cap money but 10.45 mil in real money. The logical scenario was always to restructure his contract Hopefully he gives the Bills a club-friendly deal but until it's done, I'm not holding my breath. It's impossible to speculate on what this means to Bills strategy unless we know the details of Jackson's contract. Well as I pointed out, we do know he was set to become an unrestricted free agent...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Its sounds like Fitz is staying Yeah, but does anyone really believe they are gonna pay Fitz 10 mil to sit behind TJ?
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 They didn't give him a Tupperware half-filled with chopped horse meat. Yeah, but does anyone really believe they are gonna pay Fitz 10 mil to sit behind TJ? At face value (the official statement), Fitz will be competing for the starting job.
jcbillsfan Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Might mean they think all the QBs in the draft suck. That, or they are planning a massive cage fight match to decide the starter. PTR I am down with that. Lets add one more to the fun
The Big Cat Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 That is completely inaccurate Fitz is due a bonus which would bring his salary to 10.45 with a cap number of 10 so cutting him would save 450k in salary cap money but 10.45 mil in real money. The logical scenario was always to restructure his contract I take this news as both open competition for starting QB and roster spot as they will most likely be adding a rookie QB Okay, fair enough. But the $450K they save--will they be paying more or less than that to the man they'll HAVE to replace him with.
Dibs Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Well as I pointed out, we do know he was set to become an unrestricted free agent... Yeah....but I don't know what that means in relation to his new deal. How many years.....how much per year....signing bonus? Signing Bonus is going to be a key factor. If it is high then it is likely he stays on the roster.....if low, we can cut him at training camp with no great ill effect to the cap.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I think it means the opposite, Fitz wasn't willing to re-structure much if at all, so I think this says good bye Fitz, we'll go with Jackson, a fairly high round rookie (1 thru 3) and maybe either another low level vet, or maybe this guy that just signed yesterday. Most interesting implication of this is that it gives the Bills leverage/options with respect to Fitz. Is T-Jack really any worse? Bills likely want Fitz to restructure to save cap room and real cash. Cutting him saves tons of cash, but no cap room. With the added leverage of "we're happy to have TJ play caretaker while we develop a rookie", they might be able to get Fitz to agree to a restructure.
BillsWatch Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Maybe the Bills front office decided to weed out some of the fans by suicide or heart attack as well as some of the players. Some of the players cut have had interest shown by other teams but I doubt that the fans who swear to jump ship every time the front office makes move they do not agree with will be picked up willingly by fandoms of other teams (Jests are exception since they are used to fans changing jerseys).
jjmac Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Guys, Fitz isn't going anywhere. Jeebus. It'll cost more to cut him than keep him. I read that we would actually save $450,000. Edited February 15, 2013 by jjmac
BuffBill Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) Clearly "they" didn't know what they were talking about if they included Thigpen in the conversation. You might get used to the idea. There are many people here who don't ever want to see Fitz play another down of football for the Buffalo Bills. However many of those same people are resigned to the fact that cutting Fitz makes zero sense from an economic standpoint. Paying a large sum to get an ugly wart removed from your forehead doesn't make economic sense either, but you do it because you will be better off in the future, very near future. Edited February 15, 2013 by BuffBill
The Big Cat Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I read that we would actually save $450,000. And as I just replied, that $450K "savings" goes right out the window when you have to then bring in a replacement either through FA or the draft.
The Avenger Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 I was really hoping they were going to sing ME as their next 3rd/4th string QB - I can be inactive and watch games with the best of 'em and my clipboard holding skills are second to none......
BuffBill Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 (edited) And as I just replied, that $450K "savings" goes right out the window when you have to then bring in a replacement either through FA or the draft. Who cares? This team isn't going win to this year or probably another year or two after that. They are cutting players who are better at their respective positions then Fitz is at his. If they wait to replace Fitz until next year, it is just one more year before this team can even begin to be taken seriously on the offensive side of the ball. Edited February 15, 2013 by BuffBill
Bronc24 Posted February 15, 2013 Posted February 15, 2013 Well, if we do keep Fitz, it will be yet another entertaining year of internet squabbles with Fitz supporters. If we can never make the playoffs, I suppose that's still an emotional attachment. I curse the year 1979 when, as a naive lad, I chose to cheer for the Bills because nobody else I knew did.
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