eball Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Nice move for a team that believes they're on the cusp of a championship.
NoSaint Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Nice move for a team that believes they're on the cusp of a championship. It'll be interesting to see how the NFC shakes out Tough division to win and potentially tough wildcard battle
Dante Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 @MoveTheSticks Seattle is going to be a monster on offense! Options are limitless with athletic QB, power run game and a versatile weapon like Harvin. But will he healthy when playoffs start?
Captain Hindsight Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 This was a good move for Sea but would have been absolutely idiotic for the Bills to make. Percy Harvin's a POS who's going to cost a lot of money. Seattle's built to win & just needed that last piece. The Bills are better served by keeping their pick & money. Ya better deal for the seahawks than it would have been for us
rayray808 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Seattle now has a great weapon... however, they did give up a lot for him
The Bunk Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 My only concern if im Seattle is durability. But he certainly makes them fierce on paper.
#34fan Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 That is gonna be one MEAN TC when it comes to recievers vs. DB's I wonder how the SEA weather is gonna affect Harvin's headache's?
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Good moves for both teams. Seattle has SB dreams and a coach who feels he can keep any player in line. Minny gets a #1 pick for an undersized receiver who struggles to stay healthy and might be a giant douche.
ny33 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 I personally feel that Minnesota won this trade. Harvin wants a great deal of money, and a first round pick is quite a bit to give up, as young and productive as he's been, for a player who's something of a head case. We'll see.
Rob's House Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 I personally feel that Minnesota won this trade. Harvin wants a great deal of money, and a first round pick is quite a bit to give up, as young and productive as he's been, for a player who's something of a head case. We'll see. Agreed whole heartedly. Any time you can get a 1st for a guy who wants big money (other than your QB) you take it. His production hasn't been all that special. He's never had 1000 TD season or even come close to double digit TDs. I know that's largely due to migraines & injuries, but those have been consistent & I see no reason to expect that to change.
ny33 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Agreed whole heartedly. Any time you can get a 1st for a guy who wants big money (other than your QB) you take it. His production hasn't been all that special. He's never had 1000 TD season or even come close to double digit TDs. I know that's largely due to migraines & injuries, but those have been consistent & I see no reason to expect that to change. He's also an excellent returner, but I agree that his receiving production has been very mediocre. He is also overrated as a deep threat, averaging 11.8 y/c for his career. http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/receiving/sort/yardsPerReception That's very poor considering how many 1,000 yard-receivers averaged significantly more per catch. Look at Vincent Jackson's numbers (1,384 yards, 8 TDs, 19.2 yards per catch).
Mr. WEO Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Agreed whole heartedly. Any time you can get a 1st for a guy who wants big money (other than your QB) you take it. His production hasn't been all that special. He's never had 1000 TD season or even come close to double digit TDs. I know that's largely due to migraines & injuries, but those have been consistent & I see no reason to expect that to change. You mean other than him now having very good QB throwing him the ball? You're right--that won't help. This is a big win for Sea. They are a stacked team--except at WR. They gave up the 25th pick (they likely would have gone for a WR) for a guy who will likely have a lot fewer headaches after he leaves Minny (the other picks the trade cost are largely worthless). In half a season, Harvin had 62 catches and almost 700 yards. Even injured, he was the best receiver on the Vikes, who now have no one at WR.
Malazan Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 who are we crowning in godhood? Russell or Percy? Both are gonna pretty awesome FWIW. Call me guilty of "godhood" for Russell Wilson......guess they could have beaten Buffalo by 70 last year with Harvin in tow. Harvin. This is a thread about Harvin. Somehow, I don't see him as putting the Bills on his back and lifting them up to where they belong and eagles fly. This is a big win for Sea. They are a stacked team--except at WR. They gave up the 25th pick (they likely would have gone for a WR) for a guy who will likely have a lot fewer headaches after he leaves Minny (the other picks the trade cost are largely worthless). I like the move for Seattle, but when have headache players lived up to their billing and been less headcahes? Ocho Cinco? Moss? Owens? I'd be interested in receivers who were known headaches going to a new team, getting a big contract, improving and being less trouble.
Kelly the Dog Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 It is allegedly a #1 and #7 this year and a #3 next year, according to PFT. That's not bad for the Vikes, who had had enough. Harvin is a malcontent, but he will probably be good for at least a year in Seattle before he starts pulling his nonsense again. He was badmouthing Ponder as not being good enough when he was on pace to have 111 receptions. Frankly, I don't think Ponder is great either. But he was getting the ball to Harvin. The Vikes were in a bad spot.
NoSaint Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) You mean other than him now having very good QB throwing him the ball? You're right--that won't help. This is a big win for Sea. They are a stacked team--except at WR. They gave up the 25th pick (they likely would have gone for a WR) for a guy who will likely have a lot fewer headaches after he leaves Minny (the other picks the trade cost are largely worthless). In half a season, Harvin had 62 catches and almost 700 yards. Even injured, he was the best receiver on the Vikes, who now have no one at WR. Unfortunately this costs them cap space AND that pick. Imagine if they got a WR like Austin at that pick, and still signed a guy like Wallace, Jennings... Or just thinking out loud - Austin at 25, boldin via trade and still get another mid tier free agent and come out even on dollars and still ahead on picks (next years 3 still around, which they've bad success with) and without baggage. It's a steep price. He's a quality player when things are good though. It'll be interesting to see how it goes. Edited March 11, 2013 by NoSaint
ny33 Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 If the Mike Wallace to Miami rumors aren't true (reports are that it is a done deal), it would be very interesting to see Mike Wallace sign in Minnesota and succeed.
26CornerBlitz Posted March 12, 2013 Author Posted March 12, 2013 Wow!! Too much $$ if true: @ProFootballTalk Percy Harvin could get north of $12 million a season, per @JasonLaCanfora http://wp.me/p14QSB-7CbB
NoSaint Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 Wow!! Too much $$ if true: @ProFootballTalk Percy Harvin could get north of $12 million a season, per @JasonLaCanfora http://wp.me/p14QSB-7CbB It was known he wanted cj/Larry fitz money - not surprising hed get a good amount if the trade went through
dave mcbride Posted March 12, 2013 Posted March 12, 2013 I like the move for Seattle, but when have headache players lived up to their billing and been less headcahes? Ocho Cinco? Moss? Owens? I'd be interested in receivers who were known headaches going to a new team, getting a big contract, improving and being less trouble. Um, Marshawn Lynch (speaking of Seattle ...).
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