San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 Because Billy Atkins was the primary field goal kicker in 60 and 61 and Cookie was the primary field goal kicker in 62. Yoho was the primary kicker in 63 and then Sideways Pete came along in 64. You know the best part about Yoho were the kickoffs. From the moment he lined up to kick, the fans would yell "yooooooooooooo" and as he kicked it they would yell "ho". We should still do that. Why are you writing about yourself in the third person?
Meathead Posted February 18, 2013 Author Posted February 18, 2013 meathead appreciates macks explanation
BRH Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 Only one mention of Coy Wire throughout 16 pages, and at safety too. How about when he started for us as a 165-pound linebacker? (Okay, not really that light, but he might as well have been.)
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 Only one mention of Coy Wire throughout 16 pages, and at safety too. How about when he started for us as a 165-pound linebacker? (Okay, not really that light, but he might as well have been.) Was Wire strong enough to carry Bryan Scott's jock? That's just a rhetorical question so please don't feel the need to answer it. In fact forget I posed the question and sorry for the visual.
Nuncha Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) RB: Joe Burns Ive been trying to think of his name all day so i went and scoured pro football reference and finally came up with it. he started one game in 03. very slow imo, not particularly powerful, career 3.0 average still need a punter P - Rick Tuten A 19 yard punt at a critcal time in the super bowl earns you a spot on this squad. Watch here starting at 4:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D1qGcuuKrs&list=PLcQvc3gMjIp3Sxdj81X8ODBcfXC5QiP54 Edited February 18, 2013 by Azucho98
Meathead Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 hey what do you guys think about sending our list to the howard simon show? maybe theyd be interested in talking about it and helping come up with better candidates
Yoho Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 hey what do you guys think about sending our list to the howard simon show? maybe theyd be interested in talking about it and helping come up with better candidates I am outside Buffalo so I will never know if they talk about it. But I would like to add Dangerous Dan McGrew as long snapper. Now I am trying to remember a punt returner who had hands of stone. One of which I remember was Mini Max Anderson who when he caught it was very dangerous but often it clanged off his shoulder pad. But I remember some more recent returners that had a problem with catching the punt
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 I am outside Buffalo so I will never know if they talk about it. But I would like to add Dangerous Dan McGrew as long snapper. Now I am trying to remember a punt returner who had hands of stone. One of which I remember was Mini Max Anderson who when he caught it was very dangerous but often it clanged off his shoulder pad. But I remember some more recent returners that had a problem with catching the punt Chris Watson was a Hall of Fame caliber punt catcher.
Meathead Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 ive been trying to avoid adding too many positions in fear of making this an endless exercise, but i do like the idea of adding someone named dangerous dan mcgrew i dont know anything about max anderson so i cant comment on him, but i would think most fans would remember the watson as punt catcher fiasco. but wasnt watson given the job bc he replaced a guy that fumbled/muffed punts a lot? if so does anybody remember who that was?
bowery4 Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Mini Max was a very good little back, but as a returner he fumbled a few, it's true. He was my favorite Bill when I was a kid though. P - Rick Tuten A 19 yard punt at a critcal time in the super bowl earns you a spot on this squad. Watch here starting at 4:42 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D1qGcuuKrs&list=PLcQvc3gMjIp3Sxdj81X8ODBcfXC5QiP54 Grrr this effing thread! You just made me watch THE ONE game I vowed never to watch again, BASTARD!!!
Meathead Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 i would think most fans would remember the watson as punt catcher fiasco. but wasnt watson given the job bc he replaced a guy that fumbled/muffed punts a lot? if so does anybody remember who that was? yeah this seems to confirm my recollection that watson was added bc the previous returner was so bad. but i still dont know who that prior returner was bc this article only deals with the 2000's http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/6/2/1496171/buffalo-bills-2000s-all-decade
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 yeah this seems to confirm my recollection that watson was added bc the previous returner was so bad. but i still dont know who that prior returner was bc this article only deals with the 2000's http://www.buffaloru...000s-all-decade In 2000 the year Watson joined the Bills, the only other player to return punts was Peerless Price. While he was a member of the Bills for the following two seasons, he entirely gave up punt return duties to the likes of Price, Nate Clements, and Charlie Rogers. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatsCh20.htm In 1999 the year before Watson arrived, Kevin Williams returned all but one punt with Peerless Price returning the other one.
Meathead Posted February 19, 2013 Author Posted February 19, 2013 well i guess my memory isnt entirely correct but thanks for the clarification i suppose that means chris watson gets the dubious distinction of having two awards, assuming we do go with a long snapper and kick returner
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 i suppose that means chris watson gets the dubious distinction of having two awards, assuming we do go with a long snapper and kick returner Someone should notify him. These might be the loftiest honors he's ever received.
Mark Vader Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Ah! Thanks for responding. I don't remember that at all! No problem. Fans don't usually remember players that were primarily blockers. Wade goes on the good list despite the foibles. Mularkey is merely among the cream of the crap. I agree, Wade took more crap than he deserved.
LancasterSteve Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 So if you want to assess really bad real quarterbacks, you can not find worst stats than Dan Darragh from William and Mary who turned out to be a very good environmental attorney but a really bad NFL QB Didn't start going to games with my late Dad until 1962 at the old Rockpile, War Memorial Stadium. Didn't miss more than a handful of games in all those years leading up to my going on active duty for the US Navy in August of 1971. Originally sent to the west coast and thought I was going to Nam, but then got orders for Command for the 6th Fleet out of Newport, RI. At the top of the hill where we parked our cars; I could pick up KB...(WKBW 1520 on the dial) and listen for the Bills score. Folks I got this stuff in my veins.. Now back To Darragh the only QB I have ever seen throw a backwards pass which the Bills lost. This kid was the original "deer in the headlights" look. Sometimes in the English language there is not a sigular word to describe the piss-poor play that we witnessed
Meathead Posted February 20, 2013 Author Posted February 20, 2013 looks like we are done. no new candidates in a day. so ill give it another twenty-four maybe and then off to howard
Pete Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 How about: FB Carwell Gardner i loved Gardner. He had some huge hits on special teams. And he was always the first to defend a teammate. No one !@#$ed with Gardner- not even Bryan Cox
Meathead Posted February 21, 2013 Author Posted February 21, 2013 with the lindy firing i think now is not a good time to see if this can get any attention on wgr. i think ill wait a week or so than consider it again, so get your nominees in if you have any. i also think ill send it to shopp and the bd instead of howard, better chance of it getting mentioned
Tcali Posted February 21, 2013 Posted February 21, 2013 Chris Watson was a Hall of Fame caliber punt catcher. I remember watson being a decent DB...and at the same time wondering (like all of us) wtf he was doing back there catching punts. can anyone refresh my memory on what the rationale was?? Was it about the previous guy fumbling all the time???...just cant recall. --ahhh----so much Bills history----and so much of it made so little sense:)
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