ExiledInIllinois Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Buffalo could update the stadium, create plans to develop the area and plan for the crowds and submit a bid. Not the nfls fault that they A) haven't B) won't Remind me again why it's not fair for the nfl to host its event at locations of its choosing deemed fit to the needs they have? I understand. In the end you are right. What gets me is that this stuff is self-perpetuating and the good vs. bad snowballs. Take New Orleans and the commercials they were showing in regard to what the Super Bowl is bringing w/help to the city with say education and other social issues. The thing that gets me is because of geography and climate certain areas will always have an upper hand, while others will snowball worse into decay. Of course it takes money to make money. Where are cities like BFLO going to come up with the initial investment? I am not asking for a hand out, just a helping hand. It is almost like certain areas have to play with one hand tied behind their back. I get it, BFLO brings NOTHING to the table... And sadly, NEVER will. Maybe the powers that be in the late 1940's and early 1950's NFL got it right by not allowing BFLO to join the league w/SF and Cleveland (and the defunct first franchise Colts). The writing was clearly on the wall and Ralph had to go and tinker in 1959/60 by bringing a team to BFLO.
John in Jax Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 All teams should have a chance no matter what. This is a a case of the blessed getting more blessed. Anything else is stacked against a city because of size and geography! Why should a dump like JAX be rewarded with SB just because it is "warm." They had to move boats in to make more hotel rooms! Good poin.....hey, wait a minute! I have traveled extensively in this country, and can tell you that there are many, many places which can be labeled "a dump", but Jax isn't one of them. I'm guessing you're just jealous of our great weather, low taxes, low cost of living, good roads, hot women, and beautiful beaches. ;-)
CodeMonkey Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Good poin.....hey, wait a minute! I have traveled extensively in this country, and can tell you that there are many, many places which can be labeled "a dump", but Jax isn't one of them. I'm guessing you're just jealous of our great weather, low taxes, low cost of living, good roads, hot women, and beautiful beaches. ;-) Yeah but besides that what have you got?
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Good poin.....hey, wait a minute! I have traveled extensively in this country, and can tell you that there are many, many places which can be labeled "a dump", but Jax isn't one of them. I'm guessing you're just jealous of our great weather, low taxes, low cost of living, good roads, hot women, and beautiful beaches. ;-) Yeah but besides that what have you got? And most of the seats in their stadium have very little usage.
Canadian Bills Fan Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 I dont get it. Why not have an outdoor halftime show? Celebs seem to have no problem performing outside at Rockefeller Center for the lighting of the tree. CBF
NoSaint Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) I dont get it. Why not have an outdoor halftime show? Celebs seem to have no problem performing outside at Rockefeller Center for the lighting of the tree. CBF the staging and such has to be in and out, including performance in 30 minutes. totally different beast. the issue isnt the performer being chilly. Edited February 5, 2013 by NoSaint
Nitro Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Indy is bidding for a second Super Bowl (2018). Living here I learned it takes alot to host. Super Bowl committee likes to have hotels, restaurants, bars and all that entertainment close to the stadium. NFL does not want to see horror stories of 45 minutes bus rides from sports writers. The host city will have to have at least $20 million for the host committee. Top notch support services (police, fire and EMS) coupled with co-operation of all levels of government. We had to build a state of the art Emergency Management Center to house all these operations. The list is long. If Buffalo or another cold weather city wants to host I hope they succeed. Scrapping the half time show is a small sacrifice.
RyanC883 Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 denver has announced they will be bidding on 2018 - also the cities themselves have to meet certain minimum standards to even present a package (hotel room total within X distance, minimum event space, airport capacity to handle everything etc...) Denver might bid, but they are doing this because NYC got it. And Seattle, Pittsburgh, etc. all likely meet the certain minimum standards to present a package to the NFL. The "new stadium" excuse is lame. It's in NYC because its NYC. No other city would get it first up north. It will also be expensive and a logistical nightmare. (even if the weather is good.)
billsfan89 Posted February 5, 2013 Author Posted February 5, 2013 the superdome is a 10 minute walk from all the hotels, all the venues for the corporate events, and of course the french quarter. the only time someone needed to get in a car the last 4 days was to get to and from the airport. couple that with weather in the 60/70s and sunny every day and an enclosed dome.... by comparison NY will be a real challenge logistically even in a best case scenario because you have to plan for the sprawl of the city, the dense population, and the potential for disaster in the forecast. and its not just about game day - where do you hold the nfl experience? the fan concerts? whats your plan for halftime? i could walk from "super bowl blvd" to the nfl experience to the super dome and back to the nfl experience in about 30 minutes in shorts and a tshirt this weekend. i made it from the nfl honors award show, over to the maxim party and still back to the nike hospitality room in similar transport time (with obvious stops not included in that timeline), and of course though i missed events at the bud light hotel it was along the way. if theres any sort of weather issue it will be a disaster. if that weather hits on game day it will be a failure of epic proportions for the nfl. My point is its a 10 minute drive from Hoboken to Metlife. Hoboken is right across the river from NYC with path access 24/7 and there is public transportation all over the area. Northern NJ is basically built around getting people in and out of NYC. There are plenty of options near by the arena. I am sorry but if you are rich enough to afford a hotel and tickets to the Super Bowl I am pretty sure you could afford a car to travel through Northern NJ or navigate the vast public transportation options. In Detroit a few years ago people had to transport themselves to the city's central area with the stadium and it wasn't a big deal.
Malazan Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 I'm looking forward to seeing it. It does seem like a logistical nightmare though.
FleaMoulds80 Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Next years Super Bowl will be in New Jersey in the beginning of February, and its possible we could see freezing temps, snow, and all sorts of elements that could impact the game. What is everyone's thoughts on next years game being in cold weather and the possibility of playing the game in cold weather cities out doors? Could/should Chicago, Philly, and other places be in the running for the Super Bowl? I am sure at least Chicago would have the city that could handle all sorts of extra events that could go with the Super Bowl. So should Super Bowls be played in outdoor cold weather cities? I for one am for it being in a cold weather city every 5 years or so. I think that if its OK for playoff games to be played in the snow and cold then its OK for the Super Bowl too. I also think that playoff football and December football is usually in cold weather so its something that has a big game feel. No one can predict the weather anymore. Speaking from someone that is within a 30 minute walking distance of the Meadowlands, it can be 40 degrees and sunny or 5 degrees and snowing for all we know. Just because it's Feb doesn't mean it'll be cold anymore. We f'ed our planet to the point where it doesn't even know what season it is Almost all NFL playoff games are played in freezing temperatures, so why should this be an exception? Because of the money, that's why. Screw that. Let the SB be played outdoors and you can have your precious halftime show indoors somewhere outside the stadium.
Fadingpain Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) Slightly off topic, but related: I would LOVE to see the Superbowl played at one of the 2 teams' home stadiums. Playoff football is great, and a big part of that is crazy fan support and crowd noise. You remove that from the Superbowl and the spectacle of the event is diminished. I always feel like "playoff football" ends with the championship games. The Superbowl itself is something of an over-commercialized freak show. Edited February 5, 2013 by Stopthepain
KD in CA Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Slightly off topic, but related: I would LOVE to see the Superbowl played at one of the 2 teams' home stadiums. Playoff football is great, and a big part of that is crazy fan support and crowd noise. You remove that from the Superbowl and the spectacle of the event is diminished. I always feel like "playoff football" ends with the championship games. The Superbowl itself is something of an over-commercialized freak show. I'd be all for that --- best record gets home field. You'd stop seeing playoff teams tanking the last couple weeks of the regular season. Stadium full of real fans. No queer halftime nonsense (standard 12 minute break). 3 pm kickoff. There could be a lot of improvements to the Super Bowl.
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 Good poin.....hey, wait a minute! I have traveled extensively in this country, and can tell you that there are many, many places which can be labeled "a dump", but Jax isn't one of them. I'm guessing you're just jealous of our great weather, low taxes, low cost of living, good roads, hot women, and beautiful beaches. ;-) I have been to JAX for three games... I am not impressed. Especially when they tarp the upper deck. It has nothing to do with what you say, it has to do with what I saw... IMO, a dump. JAX gets a break from the socialist NFL because of the weather and its "emerging market" status. They didn't have enough hotel rooms either. IMO, so many better parts of FLA. Agree to disagree... I have been all over this great country, JAX is not one I was NOT impressed with...
Al Cowlings Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 Those who said that Buffalo could host a Super Bowl-please stop. There is not even close to hotel space and nobody would want this to happen. Please name anything close to a five star hotel in WNY. Buffalo is so thin skinned about national perception-there is no way the city would want to deal with the kind of abuse a Buffalo Super Bowl would get. Leave it to cities built for tourism. New Orleans, Miami, San Diego, LA, maybe Tampa. Places were people can have fun in the winter.
QCity Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 No halftime show next year. I wish. Halftime show planned for '14 SB
Gordio Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 The only thing I will add to this is I agree with NoSaint, good weather it will still be a logistical nightmare to get around town to all the good parties & events during the week. People do not want to wasting their time getting from destination to destination which will be the case next year. Peter King lists the worst super bowl place as Miami & his specific reason was everything is too spread out. I think it is pretty awesome that like NoSaint said in NO this year he could walk to everything. That makes the week so much more enjoyable. If it is bad weather or if a Noreaster hits that week the NFL & everybody attending the Super Bowl is screwed & there is no other way to put it. 2nd, I was flying into Newark Monday coming home from Vegas. It was a clear day & I noticed out the window was Met Life Stadium. I know I was in the air, but the stadium does not look impressive at all. In fact from an arial view at least, I would suggest the Ralph looks better. I just thought it was going to be this awesome looking stadium & it looked like there was nothing special about it. If anybody has ever been in that stadium please enlighten me about the strong aspects of it. It would be much appreciated.
shibuya Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) Next years Super Bowl will be in New Jersey in the beginning of February, and its possible we could see freezing temps, snow, and all sorts of elements that could impact the game. What is everyone's thoughts on next years game being in cold weather and the possibility of playing the game in cold weather cities out doors? Could/should Chicago, Philly, and other places be in the running for the Super Bowl? I am sure at least Chicago would have the city that could handle all sorts of extra events that could go with the Super Bowl. So should Super Bowls be played in outdoor cold weather cities? I for one am for it being in a cold weather city every 5 years or so. I think that if its OK for playoff games to be played in the snow and cold then its OK for the Super Bowl too. I also think that playoff football and December football is usually in cold weather so its something that has a big game feel. football is a sport played in all weather conditions and it is wrong for the Superbowl to be shoe horned into only a 1/2 dozen or so posh stadiums yes it will probably take some away from some of those whom are looking for a warm weather vacation, but screw them.. The game itself is getting to posh and it needs to be returned a little back towards the grunt game it was and weather is a big factor. As for halftime shows> I HATE them. I could care less about them> haven't watched one. i always have something better to do while halftime is happening. The only time I watched halftime was when the Simpsons had their halftime episode that one time. I find it sad that people want their football to be further decaffeinated and the Superbowl to only be played in cushy warm weather venues. Time to put some of the grunt back into football Edited February 6, 2013 by shibuya
NoSaint Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 The only thing I will add to this is I agree with NoSaint, good weather it will still be a logistical nightmare to get around town to all the good parties & events during the week. People do not want to wasting their time getting from destination to destination which will be the case next year. Peter King lists the worst super bowl place as Miami & his specific reason was everything is too spread out. I think it is pretty awesome that like NoSaint said in NO this year he could walk to everything. That makes the week so much more enjoyable. If it is bad weather or if a Noreaster hits that week the NFL & everybody attending the Super Bowl is screwed & there is no other way to put it. 2nd, I was flying into Newark Monday coming home from Vegas. It was a clear day & I noticed out the window was Met Life Stadium. I know I was in the air, but the stadium does not look impressive at all. In fact from an arial view at least, I would suggest the Ralph looks better. I just thought it was going to be this awesome looking stadium & it looked like there was nothing special about it. If anybody has ever been in that stadium please enlighten me about the strong aspects of it. It would be much appreciated. One complaint I heard in Miami, which I imagine will be an issue in NY/NJ - "my team just won the Super Bowl and it took me over in hour to get in a cab for a $50 ride to where everyone was partying."
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