New gun control thread!

[Alaska Darin]

I no longer own or carry a gun. Second, I live in AZ so even if I did it wouldn't matter it's not illegal here. And last, I'm not calling for a ban on guns. I just think it's stupid to buy a gun for self defense that you have to add a laser site to to make it worth carrying.

 

Edit: And yes, that thing was a freakin beast.

I have a Lasermax that replaced the guide rod in my Glock 36. It was a gift from a buddy of mine. He's a former Spec Ops Warrior and currently a member of an elite SWAT-type unit. Doesn't carry a pistol without one. What does he know?

 

If you cant knock someone down in a dark or dimly lit setting with an underpowered pistol that doesn't quite fit your hands and has crappy sights seconds after you are roused from your slumber by the sound of breaking glass downstairs, you don't deserve to live.

I think if your home defense weapon of choice is a concealed carry pistol, you've made a poor decision.

 

Frankly, there's little reason to carry a concealed weapon in a caliber that doesn't start with at least .4. Just my opinion.

[IDBillzFan]

I think the problem Bigfat is having is finding the right holster for his attire. I found a decent review while searching for holsters recently, and thought this would help bigfat a lot.

 

[sodbuster]

I think if your home defense weapon of choice is a concealed carry pistol, you've made a poor decision.

 

Frankly, there's little reason to carry a concealed weapon in a caliber that doesn't start with at least .4. Just my opinion.

Or you're on a budget. That said, like many Americans, I have a shotgun for that.

 

There is little reason. Reason being, I am little. If this was an open carry state, I would never leave home without a 1911, and that would be the only handgun I owned.

[Alaska Darin]

Or you're on a budget. That said, like many Americans, I have a shotgun for that.

Whether you're on a budget or not, a shotgun is the FIRST weapon I'd have for home defense. There are others I'd add later but there aren't too many times I'd chose a pistol over a shotgun.

There is little reason. Reason being, I am little. If this was an open carry state, I would never leave home without a 1911, and that would be the only handgun I owned.

My 36 ain't much bigger than a .Colt 380.It's less than 7"x5"X1.1". Hard to argue with a 1911.

[DC Tom]

I have a Lasermax that replaced the guide rod in my Glock 36. It was a gift from a buddy of mine. He's a former Spec Ops Warrior and currently a member of an elite SWAT-type unit. Doesn't carry a pistol without one. What does he know?

 

 

I'm actually agreeing with BF-squared, because whereas your buddy knows how to align a sight, I'm betting most dumbass Americans would think that you put the laser on the gun, and the bullets magically go where the laser points.

[Bigfatbillsfan]

Or you're on a budget. That said, like many Americans, I have a shotgun for that.

 

There is little reason. Reason being, I am little. If this was an open carry state, I would never leave home without a 1911, and that would be the only handgun I owned.

 

Arizona might be your state. Here you could walk down the street with an AR strapped to you back and most people wouldn't bat an eyelash. There's this dude that lives in my town who wheels himself around in a wheelchair with "Vietnam Vet" stamped on the back of the Chair. He's got two handguns stuck down in his pants at all times + one in an ankle holster. (I have no idea how he would ever plan to use that one).

 

NY is having some sort of wacked out auto-immune response to guns at the moment.

[B-Man]

PUNCHING BACK TWICE AS HARD: Crowd packs heat; Oak Harbor backs down.

It’s been three weeks since an Oak Harbor city councilmember started a national controversy by trying to kick-out a wounded Army veteran who was legally carrying a weapon during a council meeting.

 

Councilmember Rick Almberg then walked out.

 

The council was met by 160 people Tuesday night, many who were packing heat.

 

There were handguns in holsters and rifles slung over shoulders and an unknown number of people concealing their weapons as the Oak Harbor City Council met. Many attended the meeting to show support for veteran Lucas Yonkman who councilmember Almberg tried to have kicked-out of City Hall last month, including Joe Hawkins who openly mocked him. “Mr. Almberg I just want you to know that I have a concealed ham sandwich right here I don’t want you to get up and walk away,” he chuckled.

 

Most attended the meeting to oppose the city’s ban on guns in parks and the marina. The Second Amendment Foundation had threatened to sue if the ordinance wasn’t overturned.

 

Sandy Peterson spoke out against the ordinance. “If the city council members are intimidated by people exercising their Second Amendment rights to bear arms, perhaps they need to examine what it is about that that makes them uncomfortable,” she said.

 

 

Yes. Why are you afraid of the Constitution? The answer, of course, is that the political class doesn’t want citizens. It wants subjects.

 

 

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/162923/

[Koko78]

NY is having some sort of wacked out auto-immune response to guns at the moment.

 

More like we have an idiot governor who is more interested in making himself look good for 2016 by being the first to overreact and enact poorly written and badly thought out legislation than in doing his job.

[Jim in Anchorage]

I have a Lasermax that replaced the guide rod in my Glock 36. It was a gift from a buddy of mine. He's a former Spec Ops Warrior and currently a member of an elite SWAT-type unit. Doesn't carry a pistol without one. What does he know?

 

 

I think if your home defense weapon of choice is a concealed carry pistol, you've made a poor decision.

 

Frankly, there's little reason to carry a concealed weapon in a caliber that doesn't start with at least .4. Just my opinion.

Well I would feel good with a .38 super.

[Alaska Darin]

I'm actually agreeing with BF-squared, because whereas your buddy knows how to align a sight, I'm betting most dumbass Americans would think that you put the laser on the gun, and the bullets magically go where the laser points.

You don't have to "align" a lasermax. Because it replaces the guide rod, it is directly in line with the barrel. To be quite honest, I've had more luck teaching people how to shoot with lasers than without. They seem to be able to correlate sight picture more easily.

[3rdnlng]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/06/florida-lawmaker-wants-anger-management-courses-for-ammunition-buyers/

 

 

 

A Florida legislator wants anyone trying to buy ammunition to complete an anger management program first, in what critics say is the latest example of local lawmakers reaching for constitutionally-dubious solutions to the problem of gun violence.

 

The bill filed Saturday by state Sen. Audrey Gibson, D-Jacksonville, would require a three-day waiting period for the sale of any firearm and the sale of ammunition to anyone who has not completed anger management courses. The proposal would require ammo buyers to take the anger management courses every 10 years.

 

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/06/florida-lawmaker-wants-anger-management-courses-for-ammunition-buyers/#ixzz2Mnk4V3bh

[B-Man]

http://www.foxnews.c...unition-buyers/

 

 

 

A Florida legislator wants anyone trying to buy ammunition to complete an anger management program first, in what critics say is the latest example of local lawmakers reaching for constitutionally-dubious solutions to the problem of gun violence.

 

The bill filed Saturday by state Sen. Audrey Gibson, D-Jacksonville, would require a three-day waiting period for the sale of any firearm and the sale of ammunition to anyone who has not completed anger management courses. The proposal would require ammo buyers to take the anger management courses every 10 years.

 

 

Read more: http://www.foxnews.c.../#ixzz2Mnk4V3bh

 

No problem Audrey.

 

 

Just as soon as all legislators have to take an economics class, a constitution class,

 

oh, and a drug screen every year...............................................okay

 

 

you work FOR us.

 

 

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[Gene Frenkle]

SRO Accidentally Discharges Gun in Highland High School

 

Some parents questioned tonight the value of having an armed security officer in the Highland schools after a police officer "accidentally discharged" his gun in the high school today. No one was hurt.

 

The district has suspended its School Resource Officer program as Town of Lloyd police investigate an officer who mistakenly fired his gun in the high school today, according to Superintendent Deborah Haab.

 

http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20130305/NEWS01/130305018/VIDEOS-Highland-schools-suspend-SRO-program-FOLLOW-PoJoMikeCahill

 

LOL, Jesus Christ...

[Satan]

SRO Accidentally Discharges Gun in Highland High School

 

Some parents questioned tonight the value of having an armed security officer in the Highland schools after a police officer "accidentally discharged" his gun in the high school today. No one was hurt.

 

The district has suspended its School Resource Officer program as Town of Lloyd police investigate an officer who mistakenly fired his gun in the high school today, according to Superintendent Deborah Haab.

That was cool. McVicker almost had another heart attack.

[Koko78]

No problem Audrey.

 

 

Just as soon as all legislators have to take an economics class, a constitution class,

 

oh, and a drug screen every year...............................................okay

 

 

you work FOR us.

 

 

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Screw yearly drug tests. Test them !@#$s daily and publish the results of anyone who tests positive on page 1.

[Alaska Darin]

http://www.poughkeep...-PoJoMikeCahill

 

LOL, Jesus Christ...

Yeah, lets suspend protection every time a cop or fireman makes a mistake too. Nice management strategy, "educators".

[DC Tom]

Yeah, lets suspend protection every time a cop or fireman makes a mistake too. Nice management strategy, "educators".

 

It's Poughkeepsie. NOT shooting a gun is unusual. Stalingrad was calmer.

 

Not that I'd use that as a reason to ban guns. But I'd support banning Poughkeepsie.

[Alaska Darin]

It's Poughkeepsie. NOT shooting a gun is unusual. Stalingrad was calmer.

 

Not that I'd use that as a reason to ban guns. But I'd support banning Poughkeepsie.

Me too. If for no other reason than the !@#$ing name is ridiculous.

[Nanker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgUwAG_OiTM

[B-Man]

 

How The Obama White House Got Anti-Gun Advocates To Shut Up and Get In Line

 

So, this story will make you chuckle. Politico reported yesterday that the White House has basically told anti-gun groups and their allies in Congress to sit down, shut up, and let the White House drive the push for new gun control. Centralization of power when it comes to messaging has been a core characteristic of this administration, and when it comes to an issue as delicate as gun control – this is a tightly run ship.

 

Ok, so here are the rules:

 

The implied rules, according to conversations with many of those involved: No infighting. No second-guessing in the press. Support whatever the president and Vice President Joe Biden propose. And most of all, don’t make waves or get ahead of the White House.

In exchange: a voice in the discussions, a role in whatever final agreement is made and weekly meetings at the White House with Biden’s chief of staff, Bruce Reed — provided they don’t discuss what happens there

In short, Reed:

forced a major change on some of Washington’s noisiest advocates: the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, Third Way, Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns and Americans for Responsible Solutions, the organization founded by former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and her husband, Mark Kelly. In past fights, gun control groups sparred with each other and got used to dictating the agenda to allies in Congress.

There’s also punishment for those who don’t abide by the rules. The Violence Policy Center was forced to walk the plank when they fought for more restrictions on gun rights, and argued that the failed renewal Assault Weapons Ban in 2004 didn’t go far enough. They’ve been cut out of the loop, and relegated to the “kid’s table.” The Obama administration wasn’t going to entertain a bull in a china closet.

Concerning anti-gun members of Congress, they’ve been very closed mouthed about how the negotiations are going, especially since they’ve virtually collapsed this week. Only tougher gun trafficking laws seem to have enough votes for passage:

Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), who hasn’t made a headline since warning the night of the Newtown shootings that “the gloves are off” with the White House if it failed to act on gun control.

McCarthy is holding her tongue on the White House gun control strategy, even though the major push has been for background checks and gun trafficking, not the ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines she has championed for years.

That’s because she is happy enough that the White House is finally backing a gun control push.

 

If this is how Obama treats its allies, with the shut up or die approach, then we know why this administration can’t govern effectively on anything. Not that we’re complaining or anything,.

 

It should be fascinating, however, to see if more media outlets start exposing the White House’s heavy-handed manipulation of its left-wing allies as the second term wears on and Obama fatigue starts to set in, especially if the Obama White House strategy bears little fruit in terms of policy wins.

 

 

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Edited March 9, 2013 by B-Man