biggerdaddynj Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) This is proof positive that hindsight is always 20/20 when it comes to drafting QBs (aside from Luck and RG III). I recall watching the '09 draft and at least one of the so-called expèrts called the Freeman pick a bad one (it was ESPN so it must have been Kiper or McShay and I think the rest of the crew were of similar opinions). The folks in TB were also leery--he was "raw", "developmental", etc... Maybe one of this year's "raw, developmental" QBs is another Freeman or perhaps better. Perhaps, not. Since I don't have a crystal ball, I for one can't tell. I would happily take Freeman but just because TB isn't extending him right this second doesn't mean he's available. Why would TB trade him if this year's crop of QBs is that bad? Guess they're not as smart as we are. It's like everyone thinking a few months back that we could get a 3rd rounder for Fitz (I remember one poster thinking we coud get a 2!!). Since Freeman won't be traded, I would grab one of the talented defensive players that will be there at 8 and then go BPA and draft a "raw, developmental" QB later on. If we hit, great. If not, we try again next year. Edited January 28, 2013 by biggerdaddynj
Snorom Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 where do these ridiculous rumors originate from
Dibs Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 where do these ridiculous rumors originate from Football forums?
Rob's House Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 http://sports.yahoo.com/news/bucs-freeman-expect-competition-next-230007195--nfl.html
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Football forums? I was going to say the same thing. Here's a rumor I heard: C.Biscuit97 had a thing with both Adrienne Lima and Brooklyn Decker. It's from an unnamed source.
biggerdaddynj Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Here's a "real" rumor that will make you want to puke--Ed Reed hitting the open market in March and being signed by the Pats. PFT cites Peter King.
Pirate Angel Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Here's a "real" rumor that will make you want to puke--Ed Reed hitting the open market in March and being signed by the Pats. PFT cites Peter King. I heard that as well. Belicheck has a hard on for him like he did Ocho Cinco
Dibs Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Here's a "real" rumor that will make you want to puke--Ed Reed hitting the open market in March and being signed by the Pats. PFT cites Peter King. Reed will be an UFA this year. I can't believe that there would be any truth to the rumor that he will be signed by the Pats though. As far as I'm aware it would be against the rules for any teams to approach a player while he is still playing under contract for another team......the Patriots wouldn't cheat like that would they?
CardinalScotts Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 If Tampa is dumb enough to deal a 25 year old stud qb that is maybe a year or two away from his prime then we should be on the phone with their front office every day. I can't imagine they would want to get rid of this kid but if they are serious we should be all over it. Would anyone really rather have any qb in this draft class over Freeman?? Because head coaches like to get "their guy" Freeman is in his fourth year, they need more than an 81.6 rating coming off a 74.9. He should be a lot better than he is 11 of 16 his completion percentage in under 58 ? yikes. With Doug Martin as a good running game with Vincent Jackson and Mike Williams as wide outs and his offensive line is really good. They are not thrilled with Freeman and I would be either. WAY WAY WAY to inconsistent http://www.bucsnation.com/2013/1/2/3827218/buccaneers-quarterback-competition-josh-freeman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/31/greg-schiano-i-need-to-evaluate-josh-freeman/ http://www.bucsnation.com/2012/12/13/3763694/josh-freeman-quarterback-future-draft-buccaneers
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Reed will be an UFA this year. I can't believe that there would be any truth to the rumor that he will be signed by the Pats though. As far as I'm aware it would be against the rules for any teams to approach a player while he is still playing under contract for another team......the Patriots wouldn't cheat like that would they? Haha. But it does make a lot of sense. The PAts and Belichick LOVE Ed Reed (and why won't you?). I just know we got our own version of Ed Reed in Jairus and I hope they figure out a long term deal. Because head coaches like to get "their guy" Freeman is in his fourth year, they need more than an 81.6 rating coming off a 74.9. He should be a lot better than he is 11 of 16 his completion percentage in under 58 ? yikes. With Doug Martin as a good running game with Vincent Jackson and Mike Williams as wide outs and his offensive line is really good. They are not thrilled with Freeman and I would be either. WAY WAY WAY to inconsistent http://www.bucsnatio...on-josh-freeman http://profootballta...e-josh-freeman/ http://www.bucsnatio...raft-buccaneers There is a direct correlation with Freeman's dropoff and his starting guards getting injured. QBs HATE pressure up the middle. If the Bucs are that stupid, again, I'd say goodbye to a 1st and left ball. Freeman could be our Big Ben and he's still really young.
chris heff Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Doubt that's what's going on in TB. However, if he were available - The Bills should snatch him up in a heartbeat. What do the following QBs have in common - other than they were drafted by and starters in TB and then traded to another team? Doug Williams Trent Dilfer Steve Young Need a hint anyone? All were Super Bowl winners.
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Doubt that's what's going on in TB. However, if he were available - The Bills should snatch him up in a heartbeat. where do these ridiculous rumors originate from? It's kind of a weird situation. The link that Rob's House posted tells the story: Freeman is not being offered an extension and the Bucs are letting him enter the final year of his rookie deal. After next season, he would become an unrestricted free agent. The Bucs are making him play a "prove it" season before trying to sign him. By risking losing him in free agency, the team is clearly not sold on Freeman at this point.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 I don't know what to think of Freeman. He sort of reminds me of Byron Leftwich in his prime-- flashes, good come-from-behind wins, but then is prone to sloppy play.
NoSaint Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 where do these ridiculous rumors originate from The teams avoiding making a commitment to him. Drafted by a past regime. Possible behind the scenes head butting.... It happens. It would be cutler-mcdaniels-esque but it happens.
Billsrhody Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Seems like a lot of people are calling Freeman a stud... 2009: 54.4%, 1,855 yds, 10 TD, 18 INT (6.4 ypa) 2010: 61.4%, 3,451 yds, 25 TD, 6 INT (7.3 ypa) 2011: 62.8%, 3,592 yds, 16 TD, 22 INT (6.5 ypa) 2012: 54.8%, 4,065 yds, 27 TD, 17 INT (7.3 ypa) If anything he's inconsistent and prone to throwing interceptions. Sound familiar? Sure he's got upside, but he certainly is not a stud.
NoSaint Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Seems like a lot of people are calling Freeman a stud... 2009: 54.4%, 1,855 yds, 10 TD, 18 INT (6.4 ypa) 2010: 61.4%, 3,451 yds, 25 TD, 6 INT (7.3 ypa) 2011: 62.8%, 3,592 yds, 16 TD, 22 INT (6.5 ypa) 2012: 54.8%, 4,065 yds, 27 TD, 17 INT (7.3 ypa) If anything he's inconsistent and prone to throwing interceptions. Sound familiar? Sure he's got upside, but he certainly is not a stud. hes young, and has been through a couple coaching staffs which is always tough. 2011 was a huge letdown, after ending 2010 on one of the best 8 game runs ive seen from a young qb. id take him in a heartbeat, but i do think theres some sort of maturity/leadership issue behind the scenes. the gun injury issue was a red flag. some of that teams locker room stuff worries me. the sounds like anyone stuff - no hes not at all like fitz.
JPS Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Here's a "real" rumor that will make you want to puke--Ed Reed hitting the open market in March and being signed by the Pats. PFT cites Peter King. That's fine. The Bills aren't going to beat the Pats anyways.
BuffBill Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) It is rumored that the Tampa coach schano Wants to go in his own direction and get his style Of QB. He was hired when Freeman was already The QB. I've watched him play and he is very good. From what I've seen he is a good leader with Good arm strength. He could easily be are franchise QB for the next 10 years. I would gladly Trade our 1st round pick for him. Sign him to a long term contract and let's get on to the business Of winning some football games and make The playoffs. He is 6 foot 6 inches tall and he is 25 years old And he has good arm and is a good deep thrower. I've seen him pull a few games out in the 4th quarter with his team down. He really passes The eye test and I think he is a good leader. Anyone care to comment or discuss If he is truly a Franchise QB, then the Bucs won't trade him. If he isn't truly a Franchise QB, then I am tired of the Bills counting on other teams cast offs. Edited January 28, 2013 by BuffBill
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Seems like a lot of people are calling Freeman a stud... 2009: 54.4%, 1,855 yds, 10 TD, 18 INT (6.4 ypa) 2010: 61.4%, 3,451 yds, 25 TD, 6 INT (7.3 ypa) 2011: 62.8%, 3,592 yds, 16 TD, 22 INT (6.5 ypa) 2012: 54.8%, 4,065 yds, 27 TD, 17 INT (7.3 ypa) If anything he's inconsistent and prone to throwing interceptions. Sound familiar? Sure he's got upside, but he certainly is not a stud. He just turned 25 on 1/13/13. I would guess he has to be among the all time leader in touchdown passes before 25.
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