BringBackFergy Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 Listening to Lindy Ruff answer questions in an interview is painful...the guy is tired and beaten. Never understood why we parted ways with Ted Nolan. I really got into hockey when Ted was the coach...he turned things around pretty quick. Then Regier axed him and Lindy showed up. Wondering what the Sabes would have accomplished if Nolan stuck around longer. At least he had a fire in his belly....Lindy on the other hand- seems bored.
CowgirlsFan Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 On the final penguins goal I said to my wife no way there are that many pens fans in the arena. The eruption from that goal only twisted the knife more. It's the same when the Red Wings are here. Even worse when the Yankees play the Rangers.
mead107 Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 I tell you, need a new owner that wants to win now. What has the current new owner done? Some times a new owner means crap. Same old same old.
JM57 Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 On the final penguins goal I said to my wife no way there are that many pens fans in the arena. The eruption from that goal only twisted the knife more. Oh, there's a way. I know a handful of STH that are disgusted with the on ice product and have begun selling their tickets on some days when they have better stuff to do. Couple that with Pittsburgh fans travelling well, especially when the game's only 3 hours from home...
MarkyMannn Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 Recipe for missing the playoffs...............No team has let up more goals than our 54 I thought Ruff was such a defensive specialist
Wooderson Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 Recipe for missing the playoffs...............No team has let up more goals than our 54 I thought Ruff was such a defensive specialist More like a specialist at defending our players against their abilities.
Buftex Posted February 18, 2013 Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) I thought Ruff was such a defensive specialist There is actually a pretty good "myth-buster" article fron Howard Simon, on the GR web-site concerning this. In the 11 years since Hasek left Buffalo, the Sabres have had the #10 ranked defense twice, and #4 once....the #4 ranking came in 2010, when Miller won the Venzna trophy. W ith Hasek the defense under Ruff was #3, #8, #2 and #1. So, it appears that Lindys' defensive philosophy amounts mostly to "have a damn good goaltender". All other years, the Ruffs' teams have ranked in the lower half of the leauge. http://www.wgr550.co...tentId=12403349 Edited February 18, 2013 by Buftex
Buftex Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 (edited) :thumbdown: Awful game...awful team. One good period of hockey against another team that is struggling, at home, is not going to cut it...this loss the same as all the others...give up a goal in the opening minutes, cough up the puck on every possession, stand around and watch the other team skate circles around you in your own end...just bad hockey. Credible reasons for not making a change are almost non-existent... Edited February 20, 2013 by Buftex
ExiledInIllinois Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Credible reasons for not making a change are almost non-existent... Picking #1 overall. Wait, you said ALMOST non-existent. ;-)
PromoTheRobot Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 This should he a cautionary tale for those who think any owner is better than RWS. The Sabres looked like they hit the jackpot with Terry Pegula but he is in love with his guys or at least refuses to pull the plug after only two years. (Instead he hands out extentions.) I'm not sure they realize that they are risking their ticket buyers at this point. Buffalo fans put up with a lot but they may give up on the Sabres. PTR
Buftex Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 This should he a cautionary tale for those who think any owner is better than RWS. The Sabres looked like they hit the jackpot with Terry Pegula but he is in love with his guys or at least refuses to pull the plug after only two years. (Instead he hands out extentions.) I'm not sure they realize that they are risking their ticket buyers at this point. Buffalo fans put up with a lot but they may give up on the Sabres. PTR Promo, I hear you. And, I know you are as loyal a fan as there is, so your words hold some weight. I am not ready to jump of the Pegula band-wagon just yet...if he is as smart as we hope he is, I just don't see how he can let this go on. I appreciate the fact that he is loyal to his guys (loyalty seems to be a tragic Buffalo quality, but endearing), but that quiet building last night had to have spoken to him. He will likely give Ruff the rest of the season (though if they don't make some sort of a run very soon, maybe not), but there is just no way he could bring him back next season with another under-achieving, losing season on his resume. Could he? If he does, at that point, I might start questioning the owner. Remember, Pegula has only been owner for one full season. We know the team came up short last season (Pegulas' only full season) but they did make a noble run from January- April...I can understand the hesitancy to pull the plug.
PromoTheRobot Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Promo, I hear you. And, I know you are as loyal a fan as there is, so your words hold some weight. I am not ready to jump of the Pegula band-wagon just yet...if he is as smart as we hope he is, I just don't see how he can let this go on. I appreciate the fact that he is loyal to his guys (loyalty seems to be a tragic Buffalo quality, but endearing), but that quiet building last night had to have spoken to him. He will likely give Ruff the rest of the season (though if they don't make some sort of a run very soon, maybe not), but there is just no way he could bring him back next season with another under-achieving, losing season on his resume. Could he? If he does, at that point, I might start questioning the owner. Remember, Pegula has only been owner for one full season. We know the team came up short last season (Pegulas' only full season) but they did make a noble run from January- April...I can understand the hesitancy to pull the plug. If anything it's hilarious to see how fast people are turning on Terry Pegula. Less than two years he's approaching Ralph Wilson in the hatred department with Buffalo fans. Which just proves that Buffalo fans are incapable of being happy with anything. PTR
Buftex Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 If anything it's hilarious to see how fast people are turning on Terry Pegula. Less than two years he's approaching Ralph Wilson in the hatred department with Buffalo fans. Which just proves that Buffalo fans are incapable of being happy with anything. PTR I am not off the Pegula bandwagon....I am still thrilled to have him as our fracking owner!
b stein 22 Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Pegula is a fine owner. He is doing the best thing an owner can do which is letting the GM make all the personal decisions and not getting in the way of him. He might of made mistake in resigning the GM but he is new to hockey.
Buftex Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Pegula is a fine owner. He is doing the best thing an owner can do which is letting the GM make all the personal decisions and not getting in the way of him. He might of made mistake in resigning the GM but he is new to hockey. If he comes to the conclusion that he made a mistake in re-signing the GM, I don't think he will necessarily let the money stand in the way of firing him. I am honestly not sure that Reiger is the problem...I do think there is talent on this team...certainly enough that they shouldn't be a solid playoff contender every year...jeesh...playing just slightly above .500 hockey will normally get a team in. Yet every year, it seems (except the Prez Cup year) the Sabres dig themselves a big hole, and then have to scratch and claw their way out of it...if they make it out, they are usually a drained team and get bounced right away from the playoffs...or, they just barely miss... They just aren't producing on the ice...and there doesn't really seem to be the sense that there will be any repercussions for failure. I like Lindy Ruff, don't get me wrong, but, as the old cliche goes, you can't fire all the players, so you have to make a change somewhere. In the NHL, maybe more than any other sport, we have seen coaching changes work out positively for underachieving teams...
b stein 22 Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 If he comes to the conclusion that he made a mistake in re-signing the GM, I don't think he will necessarily let the money stand in the way of firing him. I am honestly not sure that Reiger is the problem...I do think there is talent on this team...certainly enough that they shouldn't be a solid playoff contender every year...jeesh...playing just slightly above .500 hockey will normally get a team in. Yet every year, it seems (except the Prez Cup year) the Sabres dig themselves a big hole, and then have to scratch and claw their way out of it...if they make it out, they are usually a drained team and get bounced right away from the playoffs...or, they just barely miss... They just aren't producing on the ice...and there doesn't really seem to be the sense that there will be any repercussions for failure. I like Lindy Ruff, don't get me wrong, but, as the old cliche goes, you can't fire all the players, so you have to make a change somewhere. In the NHL, maybe more than any other sport, we have seen coaching changes work out positively for underachieving teams... I agree with you out of all the coaches in the NHL today, Ruff has been on the same team the longest. Time for a change.
MarkyMannn Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 I agree with you out of all the coaches in the NHL today, Ruff has been on the same team the longest. Time for a change. When is the last time we heard "Wow we out-coached them"
Buftex Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 When is the last time we heard "Wow we out-coached them" It has been a while.
KD in CA Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 I agree with you out of all the coaches in the NHL today, Ruff has been on the same team the longest. Time for a change. I believe he's the longest tenured head coach in major pro sports. It's time for a change.
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