1billsfan Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 On the telecast, Mike Mayock just said he's watched Nassib play for years (apparently played ball with his son) and compared Nassib to Andy Dalton. Very good but not great arm, extremely smart and great competitor. Example given was Nassib's game vs. superior competitiion (USC). Didn't realize Glennon is 6'7". He just threw a bad pick. Mayock also said he doesn't understand why there's not more buzz around Zack Dysert. LIkes him a lot. I heard that too. Being compared to Andy Dalton is a negative in my book. I know Bills fans are starving for a playoff birth, but I think we all should be starving for a Superbowl win. Andy Dalton will never win the Superbowl given the collection of elite QBs in the NFC for years to come. To me, Dalton will forever and always be an average starting NFL QB. The first thing I saw when I turned the program on was a seriously under thrown long ball by Nassib...LOL Of course, Mike Mayock clammed up after he was told it was Nassib. Sounds like he has a soft spot for him since he played ball with his kid.
Kelly the Dog Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 I heard that too. Being compared to Andy Dalton is a negative in my book. I know Bills fans are starving for a playoff birth, but I think we all should be starving for a Superbowl win. Andy Dalton will never win the Superbowl given the collection of elite QBs in the NFC for years to come. To me, Dalton will forever and always be an average starting NFL QB. The first thing I saw when I turned the program on was a seriously under thrown long ball by Nassib...LOL Of course, Mike Mayock clammed up after he was told it was Nassib. Sounds like he has a soft spot for him since he played ball with his kid. My problem with Dalton is that I think he has a rag arm. It's decent, but it's not strong or good enough to make up for his other pedestrian qualities (he also has some very good qualities). I don't want Andy Dalton on my team as my franchise QB either, and if Nassib is Andy Dalton II, I don't want him. What I heard Mayock say, however, was the comparison to Dalton and Kirk Cousins, in so far as being a very smart QB who doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Then Mayock added that "he can make all the throws." To me, if Andy Dalton had a little stronger arm, I wouldn't think so meh about him. And if Nassib is Andy Dalton with a stronger arm, I would want him. I did watch the practice and Nassib did some decent things and a couple bad things. Without seeing all of his throws it is hard to know if he had a good day or lousy day. But he made a few really nice hard long outs, but threw a poor bomb, a poor screen, and got one batted down.
Lurker Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 (edited) Any word on who the Bills sent there. Hopefully not Nix. He thinks QBs are imaginary as... The sent....everyone! http://www.buffalobi...09-f42be4118747 Also, it appears Whaley is the 'face' of the Bills down there this week.... Edited January 21, 2013 by Lurker
1billsfan Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 My problem with Dalton is that I think he has a rag arm. It's decent, but it's not strong or good enough to make up for his other pedestrian qualities (he also has some very good qualities). I don't want Andy Dalton on my team as my franchise QB either, and if Nassib is Andy Dalton II, I don't want him. What I heard Mayock say, however, was the comparison to Dalton and Kirk Cousins, in so far as being a very smart QB who doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Then Mayock added that "he can make all the throws." To me, if Andy Dalton had a little stronger arm, I wouldn't think so meh about him. And if Nassib is Andy Dalton with a stronger arm, I would want him. I did watch the practice and Nassib did some decent things and a couple bad things. Without seeing all of his throws it is hard to know if he had a good day or lousy day. But he made a few really nice hard long outs, but threw a poor bomb, a poor screen, and got one batted down. I find it very hard to believe that Marrone is looking for Andy Dalton II. I guess I've just written Nassib off based on the videos. That of course could turn around if he has an amazing senior bowl, combine and pro day. I just don't see that happening though. I'm really looking forward to seeing EJ Manuel. He's the guy I want them to take a flyer on in rd 2 or 3.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 At Senior Bowl weigh-in circus, all that matters are the numbers: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130121/senior-bowl-weigh-in/#ixzz2Ie10Zriw
Saint Doug Posted January 21, 2013 Posted January 21, 2013 The sent....everyone! http://www.buffalobi...09-f42be4118747 Also, it appears Whaley is the 'face' of the Bills down there this week.... Good read. They sent 15 scouts. Now imagine if every team sent 15. That's 480 people. These must be fairly crowded practices.
John from Riverside Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Guys.....he is being compared to Andy Dalton due to toughness and SMARTS.......he wasnt saying it because of his arm......for christ sake people watch him throw and form your own opinion
John from Riverside Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Maylock was also the analyst that refused to get off the fact that Cordy Glenn could be a starting left tackle in the NFL..... The kid looked pretty good to me last year
sjjr Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Great measureables for EJ Manuel. Nassib also had solid measureables. Dysert and Wilson had small hands.... B.Wreh Wilson (UConn) at CB could be a good fit in the middle rounds. Good size and long arms. A guy like C.Washington (Georgia) could be a middle to late round pick. Really want to see Cobi Hamilton (Arkansas) and Aaron Mellette (Elon) at WR.
eball Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Anyone know if the stats are out there to correlate hand size with fumbles? Sounds like Wilson has the hand size of a newborn.
BobChalmers Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Manuel has the ideal body for today's NFL QB. Is he any good? He's consistenly inconsistent. I don't know if that's fixable with time/coaching. When he's on he's amazing though. I guess that makes him a bit like Cam Newton - who, bizarrely, is one of the least appealing of the new QB's from the last two years, right? Who would you rather have - Newton? Or Luck, RG3, Wilson, Kaepernick? I would submit any of the last four seem like better prospects right now.
Jerry Christ Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 I'm really looking forward to seeing EJ Manuel. He's the guy I want them to take a flyer on in rd 2 or 3. EWWWWWW No
Canadian Bills Fan Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 What is everyone's opinion on Landry Jones? Havent heard much talk about him. CBF
peterpan Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Anyone know if the stats are out there to correlate hand size with fumbles? Sounds like Wilson has the hand size of a newborn. Not sure but I saw one that compared hand size to completion % once. Bigger hands ment more completions. its hard to hold onto those big NFL balls. PS that Ezekial from BYU is going to be a player. top 10 pick when all said and done I bet. At Senior Bowl weigh-in circus, all that matters are the numbers: http://sportsillustr.../#ixzz2Ie10Zriw From the players to watch link within that article, Ryan Nassib is #1 for offense 1. Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse (6020, 228 and 5.05): Already rising up draft boards, NFL personnel are excited to see Nassib matched up with the best senior talent in the country. Quick and athletic to avoid pressure, re-set and make accurate throws, Nassib has NFL teams intrigued. After charting out Nassib in five games we consider him to be the best quarterback in the 2013 NFL Draft and worth drafting with the first overall pick, so we are excited to see how he does in Mobile. Blessed with a strong arm, the ball bursts out of his hand and he can make 15+ yard throws with zip even when a defender is about to hit him and he cannot stride into his throw. Having played in the Big East where the defenses are not the same caliber as the SEC and some of the other conferences, NFL teams are interested to see how he does against top defenders. The big thing that Nassib must work on is his deep passing as he tends to put too much air under his throws which forces his receivers to slow up and wait for the ball. This allows the defensive back to close and make a play on the ball. He could be the story of Mobile if he has a strong week and begins climbing up into the high first round
Joe Miner Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Nassib just had an under thrown deep ball that would have gone for 6. Receiver beat his man off the line badly and had to stop and wait for the ball allowing the DB to recover and knock it away at the goal line. That's a little concerning for me. In his Youtube games I've watched, that was the norm on deep balls, not the exception. He can throw a laser when he wants, but when he puts some air under it on the deep ball, it more often than not comes up short. I'd like to think that's something that's correctable, but I don't know for sure. Seems like the strength is there so it could be a mechanics issue or a timing issue.
DE Bills Fan Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 What is everyone's opinion on Landry Jones? Havent heard much talk about him. CBF Personally, I think he is the best alternative for the Bills. I agree. I just do not understand why there has not been more discussion about him. He has had by far the most prolific career of the QB's being considered. he is big, has a strong arm, has been a 4 year starter, played in a pro-style offense and played against top-flight competition. I just don't think any of the other QB's compare to him in terms of their college career and experience. I just hope the Bills don't make a huge mistake here a sit will set the franchise back 3 years if they do. I hope thye do their due diligence and choose the best QB, and not the most hyped. Jsut don't understand all this talk about Glennon. He has not played vs. top competition. just doesn't do it for me.
ALF Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Manuel is worth watching, you can't teach size http://www.tampabay.com/sports/college/former-fsu-star-ej-manuel-sees-senior-bowl-as-chance-to-boost-nfl-draft/1271711
Tommy Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) Kevin Weidl from Scouts Inc. has his Senior Bowl Practice Day 1 Recap on ESPN Insider. I'm going to paraphrase here, but here is what he said about Nassib: He thought Nassib had the best day of any quarterback. He said Nassib was on the mark early on, had good zip and placement on out routes. He said Nassib was confident, had good anticipation, and was competing. In 7 on 7 drills, it says he did a good job looking off the one-high safety. Overall he said no one (among QBs) REALLY stood out, but Nassib had the best day overall. Here's the link for anyone else with Insider: http://insider.espn....ice-notes-day-1 Edited January 22, 2013 by Tommy
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