birdog1960 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 http://www.baltimore...0,3430837.story how much would you sacrifice to live 10 years longer? smokers, is this enough to inspire you to quit?
birdog1960 Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 Hope I die before I get old. you may change your mind when you get middle aged.
LeviF Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 you may change your mind when you get middle aged. So I've been told. In any case, I've cut down on my smoking quite a bit, to the point where cutting down more will, for all practical purposes, mean quitting.
Jauronimo Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 http://www.baltimore...0,3430837.story how much would you sacrifice to live 10 years longer? smokers, is this enough to inspire you to quit? If smoking were really that bad for you, somebody would have said something by now.
birdog1960 Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 you may change your mind when you get middle aged. hmmm...you're either a smoker or you're not. there's no in between. there was a great line to this effect in "silence of the lambs"- can't quite get it though..
LeviF Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) hmmm...you're either a smoker or you're not. there's no in between. there was a great line to this effect in "silence of the lambs"- can't quite get it though.. From your article: The two papers did not draw distinctions between people who smoked a pack a day and those who might smoke just a few cigarettes a day, said Dr. Steven Schroeder, director of the Smoking Cessation Leadership Center at UC San Francisco. A next step in terms of study would be "to find out how much less health problems there are for smokers who smoke fewer cigarettes," he said. Regardless, I'm only buying 1-2 packs per month now. When I said cutting down more would mean quitting, I meant it Edited January 24, 2013 by LeviF91
plenzmd1 Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) Reading a study like this will only make smokers smoke more. Elevates stress levels, and smokers think having a smoke calms them down during stressful times. go figure LOL In all seriousness , I jump on mya soapbox bout once a year and really ask any one who wants to quit to buy this book. I will be 5 years quit on May 8th, and this book made it possible when no other method worked. This book has been a phenomenal success with several of friends and relatives who have read in and successfully quit as well. I seem to remember Stojan having successfully used it, hopefully he is stil quit as well! http://www.theeasywaytostopsmoking.com/ Edited January 24, 2013 by plenzmd1
Fezmid Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 In other news, Minnesota wants to add a 95 cent tax to each pack of cigarettes in order to "deter smoking."
Dibs Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 http://www.baltimore...0,3430837.story how much would you sacrifice to live 10 years longer? smokers, is this enough to inspire you to quit? I'd think obesity would have a greater impact than smoking does in regards to longevity. Far more prevalent than smoking too. Would people be willing to sacrifice sugar and fatty foods to live 10 years longer? There is an old saying.... "You never see a really old fat person."
birdog1960 Posted January 24, 2013 Author Posted January 24, 2013 I'd think obesity would have a greater impact than smoking does in regards to longevity. Far more prevalent than smoking too. Would people be willing to sacrifice sugar and fatty foods to live 10 years longer? There is an old saying.... "You never see a really old fat person." that's kind of a false choice: should i smoke or be obese? how about neither? at any rate, i quit about 10 years ago not knowing but suspecting (and hoping for) this data. maybe it's more meaningful for ex smokers to know that they have essentially reverted to the norm regarding life expectancy. but i think if i still smoked, this news would be inspiring.
PaattMaann Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 In other news, Minnesota wants to add a 95 cent tax to each pack of cigarettes in order to "deter smoking." NYS has done the same, and in about 5 years, packs of smokes went from about 4 or 5 bucks to 10....and smoking is down, so one could argue the tax has worked - they are even taxing Indian smokes now too glad I quit a few years ago - still go plenty of years for my lungs to fully recover
Jauronimo Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 that's kind of a false choice: should i smoke or be obese? how about neither? at any rate, i quit about 10 years ago not knowing but suspecting (and hoping for) this data. maybe it's more meaningful for ex smokers to know that they have essentially reverted to the norm regarding life expectancy. but i think if i still smoked, this news would be inspiring. Are you really suggesting that 10 years ago the perils of smoking weren't documented?
Steve O Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 NYS has done the same, and in about 5 years, packs of smokes went from about 4 or 5 bucks to 10....and smoking is down, so one could argue the tax has worked - they are even taxing Indian smokes now too, glad I quit a few years ago - still go plenty of years for my lungs to fully recover I have two friends that quit when a pack of smokes went from the 4-5 dollar range to 10 almost overnight just because of the price. With the new ad campaign that shows smokers talking and breathing through their throats it is hard to believe anyone continues, however many of my friends still do. I'll miss them when they're gone
JM57 Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 I have two friends that quit when a pack of smokes went from the 4-5 dollar range to 10 almost overnight just because of the price. With the new ad campaign that shows smokers talking and breathing through their throats it is hard to believe anyone continues, however many of my friends still do. I'll miss them when they're gone Its an addiction. Some people simply don't have the will power to stop.
BillsFanM.D. Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 http://www.baltimore...0,3430837.story how much would you sacrifice to live 10 years longer? smokers, is this enough to inspire you to quit? I use this graph a lot to show folks that no matter when they quit....there is almost always hope for benefit in terms of lung function. Not the exact parallel as mortality data....but supports the overall premise. As noted, it shows how a 'middle age' smoker who quits.... then has reasonable lung function well beyond average life expectancy. I.e. it shows an indirect quality of life measure to go with your life expectancy reference. Bottom line...smoking bad. I saw both of my parents quit when I was a teen. It can be an ugly process, but there is no question that obesity and smoking are two of our greatest national 'threats.'
LeviF Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 On this front, it's been so cold today and the previous two days here in upstate NY that I haven't had a smoke at all (I never smoke in my apartment) since Tuesday afternoon. I just can't imagine standing idle outside for 10 minutes with at least some of my fingers exposed, but I still see people doing it outside here at work.
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) My mother quit smoking when I was a child... In the mid 1970's sometime. She saw a picture in Sears of all places. The picture had a "clean" non-smoker lung vs. a lung that was from a smoker. She died of ovarian cancer just over 20 years later @ the age of 59. When my mother came down with the cancer, my father quit smoking... He is still kicking in his late 70's. She'd be living today if they would have known her family history... For some inexplicable reason (well for various reasons), they did a partial hysterectomy and left the ovaries in after my younger sister was born... They were ticking "timebombs" for 20 years and went "off" in 1993... She made it to 1999. Edited January 25, 2013 by ExiledInIllinois
Dibs Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 that's kind of a false choice: should i smoke or be obese? how about neither? at any rate, i quit about 10 years ago not knowing but suspecting (and hoping for) this data. maybe it's more meaningful for ex smokers to know that they have essentially reverted to the norm regarding life expectancy. but i think if i still smoked, this news would be inspiring. I was just being a bit facetious. You are 100%....neither is the smart way to go.
Chef Jim Posted January 27, 2013 Posted January 27, 2013 What I hate about visiting NY are those terrible anti-smoking ads. I don't smoke so I don't need to see people with holes in their necks while I'm eating.
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