Meathead Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 lets be real for a moment at this instance in time the gop is totally obamas B word. splap splap splap go get me a drank not to despair my conservative brothers and sisters, these things never last. you do have to reinvent yourselves going forward, but all hope certainly is not lost as the sands in the hourglass surge ever downward, so does political reality note that the hillary tsunami is also looming so if there ever was a time you need to get your sh together now would be it reject the crazies. reject the selfish. adopt moderation. vote huntsman
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 lets be real for a moment at this instance in time the gop is totally obamas B word. splap splap splap go get me a drank not to despair my conservative brothers and sisters, these things never last. you do have to reinvent yourselves going forward, but all hope certainly is not lost as the sands in the hourglass surge ever downward, so does political reality note that the hillary tsunami is also looming so if there ever was a time you need to get your sh together now would be it reject the crazies. reject the selfish. adopt moderation. vote huntsman Your cellophane isn't tight enough.
birdog1960 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 i might vote for huntsman...might even become republican again if he's nominated.
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 i might vote for huntsman...might even become republican again if he's nominated. ... !@#$ me... This is funny on levels you aren't equipped for.
RkFast Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 They run a socialist bent on "fundamentally changing the USA" yet WE are the extreme crazies. Right.
Meathead Posted January 19, 2013 Author Posted January 19, 2013 They run a socialist bent on "fundamentally changing the USA" yet WE are the extreme crazies. Right. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL omg its so funny that a) you really believe that, and 3) that you dont see the total irony
3rdnlng Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL omg its so funny that a) you really believe that, and 3) that you dont see the total irony Your thinking is as mixed up as the way you've set up this sentence.
truth on hold Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) lets be real for a moment at this instance in time the gop is totally obamas B word. splap splap splap go get me a drank not to despair my conservative brothers and sisters, these things never last. you do have to reinvent yourselves going forward, but all hope certainly is not lost as the sands in the hourglass surge ever downward, so does political reality note that the hillary tsunami is also looming so if there ever was a time you need to get your sh together now would be it reject the crazies. reject the selfish. adopt moderation. vote huntsman They really look weak and rudderless. I've heard of lame duck presidents, theyre a lame duck party. Edited January 19, 2013 by Joe_the_6_pack
Meathead Posted January 19, 2013 Author Posted January 19, 2013 i really hope they can pull it together by next election and nominate someone awesome. heck its been so bad lately that id take someone who is not a circus freak. huntsman seems like the best candidate now but someone else could emerge by then how fantastic would it be to have hillary and someone else really good going against each other. two great candidates for the first time in many decades. it would be good for the country and is what im rooting for
truth on hold Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) i really hope they can pull it together by next election and nominate someone awesome. heck its been so bad lately that id take someone who is not a circus freak. huntsman seems like the best candidate now but someone else could emerge by then how fantastic would it be to have hillary and someone else really good going against each other. two great candidates for the first time in many decades. it would be good for the country and is what im rooting for I hear you, but I'd say there's very little chance of that happening. The party is hamstrung by religious zealots/NRA gun lovers/and Ozzie and Harriet stone age "family values". They elevate issues that either the general electorate doesn't place a priority on, or worse has the opposing view, like abortion and gay marriage. Edited January 19, 2013 by Joe_the_6_pack
Bigfatbillsfan Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 They run a socialist bent on "fundamentally changing the USA" yet WE are the extreme crazies. Right. Dude, you really believe this? They really look weak and rudderless. I've heard of lame duck presidents, theyre a lame duck party. It looked that way after 2008 and they came back for 2010. Like every party over time their influence and power will wax and wan. Right now they're in the phase of trying to figure out what they want to be.
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I hear you, but I'd say there's very little chance of that happening. The party is hamstrung by religious zealots/NRA gun lovers/and Ozzie and Harriet stone age "family values". They elevate issues that either the general electorate doesn't place a priority on, or worse has the opposing view, like abortion and gay marriage. So, in other words, they're hamstrung by the fact that they aren't Democrats?
sodbuster Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) So, in other words, they're hamstrung by the fact that they aren't Democrats?yeah, I love the argument. mind blowing isn't it?I do sort of agree though. the gay marriage debate is over, the abortion debate is over. I'm not casting a value judgement on either issue, but people have made up their minds. generally, people don't react well to an intrusive govt. I believe that within 20 years, the gop will more closely resemble the libertarian party of today. Edited January 19, 2013 by sodbuster
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) yeah, I love the argument. mind blowing isn't it?I do sort of agree though. the gay marriage debate is over, the abortion debate is over. I'm not casting a value judgement on either issue, but people have made up their minds. generally, people don't react well to an intrusive govt. I believe that within 20 years, the gop will more closely resemble the libertarian party of today. The gay marriage debate is far from over, but it looks as if the right side is going to win, and that's a good thing. The abortion "debate" isn't really a debate at all, rather it's an entrenched difference of moralities which will never go away. I, for instance, believe abortion to be abhorent, and I refuse to associate with those vile creatures who support the murder of infants. I won't, however, try to legislate against them. I'm content to show my outward contempt, and to shun them. It's impossible to change my stance on the issue, as it's cut and dried, black and white. As to the notion that people don't react well to intrusive government, look around, take stock of the current situation, and try to say that again with a straight face. Edited January 19, 2013 by TakeYouToTasker
B-Large Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 The GOP will adopt and move forward with the favors of the Libertarian platform, at least on social issues. Its one way they can attract the young, minority, and women who want freedom, government restraint, yet wish to live and let live. They need to shed the short term reputation of being obstructionist, because the polls are beginning to show the American People believe they are just that. Americans are afraid, scared, on their heels. Who will win the People is the party that shows them ideas, hard work and taking a risk is what made America great... Nothing in life is easy , predictable for guaranteed, the R's need to show the people of America that while the Democrat pledge is noble, it is a fallacy.
sodbuster Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 The gay marriage debate is far from over, but it looks as if the right side is going to win, and that's a good thing. The abortion "debate" isn't really a debate at all, rather it's an entrenched difference of moralities which will never go away. I, for instance, believe abortion to be abhorent, and I refuse to associate with those vile creatures who support the murder of infants. I won't, however, try to legislate against them. I'm content to show my outward contempt, and to shun them. It's impossible to change my stance on the issue, as it's cut and dried, black and white. As to the notion that people don't react well to intrusive government, look around, take stock of the current situation, and try to say that again with a straight face. I'm talking about the social issues specifically. I have my beliefs, but I don't expect others to feel the same way, and I may try to convince them it is a better life, but it's their life to ruin. Plus on the off chance that I am living my life the wrong way, at least it is only my life I ruined.
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 I'm talking about the social issues specifically. I have my beliefs, but I don't expect others to feel the same way, and I may try to convince them it is a better life, but it's their life to ruin. Plus on the off chance that I am living my life the wrong way, at least it is only my life I ruined. That's the way things should operate, for sure. I'm 100% willing to allow folks to live as they please, just so long as I don't have to pay for the outcomes of their, or their parents (grandparents, etc.), poor decisions.
B-Large Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 That's the way things should operate, for sure. I'm 100% willing to allow folks to live as they please, just so long as I don't have to pay for the outcomes of their, or their parents (grandparents, etc.), poor decisions. Then you need to buy an island.... We all pony up for others, while on the flip side get the upside of others bad decisions... You just hope the split leaves you well ahead in the end
keepthefaith Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 Obama knows well that the American electorate are clueless to a great extent.
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 20, 2013 Posted January 20, 2013 Then you need to buy an island.... We all pony up for others, while on the flip side get the upside of others bad decisions... You just hope the split leaves you well ahead in the end If I'm forced to pay for their outcomes, then I demand the authority to limit their freedom in their decision making process.
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