JP-era Posted January 6, 2005 Author Share Posted January 6, 2005 I totally want anyone besides Bledsoe at this point, but I'm not in favor of just handing over the reigns to a rookie. Make him compete. 195414[/snapback] He wont be a rookie, he will be a second year guy, with some limited playing experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjamhead Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 He wont be a rookie, he will be a second year guy, with some limited playing experience. 195718[/snapback] I wouldn't even call his experience "limited" at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Actually....I am starting to see THREE factions - The Drew Bledsoe supporters - The JP Losman supporters - And the group that thinks....WHY DONT YOU JUST LET THEM FIGHT IT OUT IN CAMP I am a member of the 3rd group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Actually....I am starting to see THREE factions - The Drew Bledsoe supporters - The JP Losman supporters - And the group that thinks....WHY DONT YOU JUST LET THEM FIGHT IT OUT IN CAMP I am a member of the 3rd group 195991[/snapback] You forgot the "It's a friggin' team game!!!" faction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 So everyone is convinced JP isnt ready. How exactly did we come to that conclusion? My guess is that its because we havent seen him play. OK, so play him! 195411[/snapback] His obvious inability to grasp the pace of pro ball, and his God-awful technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 So everyone is convinced JP isnt ready. How exactly did we come to that conclusion? My guess is that its because we havent seen him play. OK, so play him! Let him train and start with the 1st team O, only then will we see him play and know whether he is ready or not. No one here was watching him practice, those arent open to the public. Furthermore, Flutie, and RJ both proved (from opposite perspectives) that what you see in practice is often NOT what you will get in games. So no one here has seen him play other than the mop up duty he got handing the ball off to McGahee. Drew screwed us, really, because if we werent (hopelessly behind Drew) making a late surge for the playoffs, we would have had a chance to see Losman more, I dont know if he would have started but he would have played more. We didnt get that chance and have NO real, in the heat of the game, data. If he plays we learn first hand where he is at. The only way to develop your young QB to play, is to play him. And the only way to know if he can cut the mustard is to play him and see! 195411[/snapback] I came to that conclusion because the guys who coach him, whose jobs depend on winning games, who have watched him every second of every practice and who make a living evaluating players haven't put him on the field. If he was ready and the best QB on our roster, MM would be starting him, no? As for next year, no one knows because none of us can see the future. We will go through campa and pre-season and the coaches will decide whatever they decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 He wont be a rookie, he will be a second year guy, with some limited playing experience. 195718[/snapback] If wearing a track suit and toting a clip board on the sidelines is what you mean by limited playing experience, yeah, he has that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 If wearing a track suit and toting a clip board on the sidelines is what you mean by limited playing experience, yeah, he has that. 196068[/snapback] Aw c'mon. He handed the ball to Shaud Williams like a 10 year vet. Didn't even bounce ONE off Shaud's melon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 His obvious inability to grasp the pace of pro ball, and his God-awful technique. 196061[/snapback] ??? Are you talking about *pat,pat*??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 ??? Are you talking about *pat,pat*??? 196085[/snapback] No, we're talking about Losman. Believe it or not, it IS possible to discuss another QB without mentioning that Bledsoe sucks. You should try it sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 No, we're talking about Losman. Believe it or not, it IS possible to discuss another QB without mentioning that Bledsoe sucks. You should try it sometime. 196088[/snapback] What, you mean our other QB isn't the next coming of Johnny Unitas? He could possibly have flaws too? Damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 No, we're talking about Losman. Believe it or not, it IS possible to discuss another QB without mentioning that Bledsoe sucks. You should try it sometime. 196088[/snapback] I just find it ironic that you are talking about JP not being able to handle the pace of the game and saying that he has poor technique.......isn't that the problem with the current guy?? (I forgot his name) Anyway, there is nothing definitive we can say about JP at this point.......except one thing: TD went out of his way to draft JP. There was a reason for this. Sooner or later, he'll get a shot. The other guy's days are numbered no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 The other guy's days are numbered no matter what. 196096[/snapback] All of our days are numbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 All of our days are numbered. 196099[/snapback] Which is why you should live every day as though it were your last...because one day you're going to be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I just find it ironic that you are talking about JP not being able to handle the pace of the game and saying that he has poor technique.......isn't that the problem with the current guy?? (I forgot his name) 196096[/snapback] The topic is Losman, and you find it ironic that we're discussing Losman and not something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Which is why you should live every day as though it were your last...because one day you're going to be right. 196102[/snapback] oh boy, between this and the Pataki speech I'm not sure I can handle anymore platitudes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I'm not sure I can handle anymore platitudes.... 196107[/snapback] I like platitudes. Their duck bills and beaver tails make them look like God put them together from leftover parts and pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 The topic is Losman, and you find it ironic that we're discussing Losman and not something else? 196103[/snapback] Well, technically by discussing Losman you are discussing Patty cake by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Well, technically by discussing Losman you are discussing Patty cake by default. 196117[/snapback] And technically, if I'm eating an apple I'm eating an orange, because they're both fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 So everyone is convinced JP isnt ready. How exactly did we come to that conclusion? My guess is that its because we havent seen him play. OK, so play him! 195411[/snapback] I think most people are drawing this conclusion because they trust MM/Clements/Wyche to do whats right for this team and offense. They certainly were correct not to start JP when we went to an 0-4 start with Bledsoe at QB because JP was hurt. Likewise at 1-5. At 3-5 JP was healthy enough to play, but the Bills were beginning to get on a roll and throwing him in to start his first game on the road against NE would have been about the same as when he was thrown to the dogs in mop-up duty of that game. At 3-6 is the first semicredible physical opportunity for him to start, but again after the debacle in NE with his mop-up work there, this would have been a bad move. As it happens, the streak of winning games going away began here and again making a change at QB would have been the height of sillness during the streak. I think the should and will get good looks in mini-camps and pre-season and though I expect Bledsoe to prevail I do trust the braintrust to do the right thing. Don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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