26CornerBlitz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 @ProFootballWkly RT @Cardschatter: Bruce Arians and @azcardinals agree to 4-yr contract making Arians new head coach. Team option for 5th year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Good for him, he earned it after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 2nd time Arians has replaced Whisenhunt. The Cardinals have now matched us for hiring former Steelers Offensive Coordinators as HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 @ProFootballWkly MT @mikejurecki: I was told (Ray Horton) had a heated exchange w/ Steve Keim, thought he was the guy when McCoy took the Chargers job. Uh oh!!! Ray Horton is not a Happy Cardinal!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This hiring is absurd. It's like they replaced Whiz with his slightly worse clone. Why wouldn't they hire Horton? Very bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 @AdamSchefter After Lovie Smith, Romeo Crennel and six other were fired, there eight HC jobs filled. Not one hire was a minority. Not exactly shocking news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'm surprised Horton didn't get one of the 8 HC vacancies, but not so much Lovie and certainly not Crennel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Ray is a lose cannon lets be honest, Romeo a complete disaster, Lovey one playoff appearance the last 6 years and back to back callapses. There are good minority coaches, but look at us (bills fans) a lot of us wanted a retread, likely to be white. Always seems to be the offensive hire, black coaches who are offensive coordinators is where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 @ProFootballTalk Ray Horton out, Todd Bowles in as Cardinals defensive coordinator, per @MikeSilver http://wp.me/p14QSB-6UgI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 @ProFootballWkly RT @Cardschatter: Bruce Arians and @azcardinals agree to 4-yr contract making Arians new head coach. Team option for 5th year. Another former Steeler OC. @ProFootballTalk Ray Horton out, Todd Bowles in as Cardinals defensive coordinator, per @MikeSilver http://wp.me/p14QSB-6UgI I feel bad for Ray. May be he gets the DC gig in Philadelphia or Jacksonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) This would be a coup for Cleveland, although one has to assume he won't be long for the DC job if he continues getting HC'ing interviews: Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora Just going to reiterate what I first reported earlier tonight. still sounds like Todd Bowles ends up in AZ and Ray Horton ends up in CLE Edited January 18, 2013 by Punch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Good for him, he earned it after this season. Agreed, I was hoping he had a shot here, but I'm happy with Marrone and what he is doing so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAWNDO Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So I wonder how the NFL Talking Heads will rank this off season's new head coaching derby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Surprised he got it over Horton, but he definitely deserved an opportunity after this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 @AdamSchefter After Lovie Smith, Romeo Crennel and six other were fired, there eight HC jobs filled. Not one hire was a minority. Not exactly shocking news to me. Yep everyone is racist. Has nothing to do with most of the hirings being offensive coaches. Another trend in this copy cat league. Oh wait, I forgot racism. Racism and hiring offensive coaches are the new thing now. Shocking, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yep everyone is racist. Has nothing to do with most of the hirings being offensive coaches. Another trend in this copy cat league. Oh wait, I forgot racism. Racism and hiring offensive coaches are the new thing now. Shocking, right? It is instituional racism. There is only one black OC in the league, Jim Caldwell. When minorities can't even get coordinator jobs that then in turn give them HC opportunities then yes it is institutional racism. What is even more ludicrous is Todd Bowles getting the DC spot in Arizona. The Eagels defense was awful all year even after he took over mid-season. Mr. Horton just got screwed. Hell I would hire him as assistant head coach, defensive consultant for a year in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) It is instituional racism. There is only one black OC in the league, Jim Caldwell. When minorities can't even get coordinator jobs that then in turn give them HC opportunities then yes it is institutional racism. What is even more ludicrous is Todd Bowles getting the DC spot in Arizona. The Eagels defense was awful all year even after he took over mid-season. Mr. Horton just got screwed. Hell I would hire him as assistant head coach, defensive consultant for a year in Buffalo. http://www.nfl.com/n...s-hired-in-2013 Some people will always respond with a visceral reactionary denial that there's an issue. Professionals within the industry are acknowledging that there is in fact an "institutional" bias that favors white males for HC and GM jobs despite the controversy of the issue. Edited January 18, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 WHisenhunt was not the problem in AZ. He was saddled with bad personnel. Kolb was over rated in his brief appearances in Philly and they got duped into trading for him. They used 4 QBs last year. NO team can do well with that. The RBs were banged up and they have below average Offense lineman. All this falls at the feet of the Cardinals GM...and he was fired. Arians gets a team lacking in offensive talent. Good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yep everyone is racist. Has nothing to do with most of the hirings being offensive coaches. Another trend in this copy cat league. Oh wait, I forgot racism. Racism and hiring offensive coaches are the new thing now. Shocking, right? There are 5 black coaches in the NFL right? 2 made the playoffs, one got fired with a 10-6 record, one finished .500 & has won a SB, and one was completely bad. 4 out of 5 over .500 is a pretty damn good ratio. It's also interesting that guys like Chip Kelly are the hot NFL candidates when a guy like Kevin Sumlin maybe had a more impressive year. I don't think it's racism but there definitely is a lack of opportunity given for whatever reason. For the record, Arians definitely deserves a shot. What he did this year was amazing. It will be interesting to see what he does without Big Ben and Luck and that clusterf in Zona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 There are 5 black coaches in the NFL right? 2 made the playoffs, one got fired with a 10-6 record, one finished .500 & has won a SB, and one was completely bad. 4 out of 5 over .500 is a pretty damn good ratio. It's also interesting that guys like Chip Kelly are the hot NFL candidates when a guy like Kevin Sumlin maybe had a more impressive year. I don't think it's racism but there definitely is a lack of opportunity given for whatever reason. For the record, Arians definitely deserves a shot. What he did this year was amazing. It will be interesting to see what he does without Big Ben and Luck and that clusterf in Zona. With regards to Sumlin, he's been a major D1 coach for only a season and I think I read he wasn't interested in the NFL this year. I think he's going to win a national title in the next couple of years and then he will be on everyone's short list. Charlie Strong was someone I wanted the Bills to go after but he also ruled out the NFL this year. Lovie would have been hired immediately but his inability to hire any competent offensive coordinators is what held him back I think. Also, his 10-6 record, while good on the surface, was a complete meltdown. They started 7-1 and then Buffaloed the rest of the season. He'd have been fired for the same thing last year but the Bears, while a large market team, have always been frugal, and that would have left them on the hook for around $10m the next two seasons. He will get another shot next year. I don't think it's institutionalized racism but I'm a complete outsider so it's simply an opinion. I think owners want to make money and most want to win. A smart businessman will hire the person that will make them the most money by turning their team into a winner and skin color shouldn't even matter. It's why I feel the Rooney Rule is insulting to black coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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