JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) i happen to like the thought of an official store. The dumb little fruit stands they have around the stadium leave a lot to be excited about. There is an official store - it's just back between the ticket office and the practice building. This just puts it front and center so more people will buy more stuff giving the team more money. Edited January 17, 2013 by JÂy RÛßeÒ
mrags Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 There is an official store - it's just back between the ticket office and the practice building. This just puts it front and center so more people will buy more stuff giving the team more money. its lame still and not anywhere near or inside the stadium. Needs to be upgraded.
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 its lame still and not anywhere near or inside the stadium. Needs to be upgraded. Not disagreeing. I'm just not keen on using taxpayer dollars to improve the team's ability to sell stuff.
SBUffalo Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 It all looks fantastic, but what's the point of funneling all this money into a stadium that's likely to be replaced in the next decade?
l< j Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Pic 3 - 2 more jumbotrons help the people at rockpile end of the stadium. that's about it. I think the jumbotrons probably have more value as sponsorship and ad revenue opportunities, even if the team talks about upgrading the 'fan experience'.
PromoTheRobot Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) It all looks fantastic, but what's the point of funneling all this money into a stadium that's likely to be replaced in the next decade? For one it has to be shored up just to last 10 more years. Keep in mind most of the money is for structural reinforcements. Second, planning 10 years out for a new stadium is better than saying OMG we need a new stadium now! Third, if you are going use a place for 10 years why not make it a little nicer? $135 million is better than $1.3 billion. PTR Edited January 17, 2013 by PromoTheRobot
sodbuster Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I like how they have pics of real people fraternizing in the concourses. I, personally, would've selected some women that weren't so heavy. they used the same father and son shot in the concourse and the new team store
BuffaloRebound Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Not disagreeing. I'm just not keen on using taxpayer dollars to improve the team's ability to sell stuff. Couldn't agree more. Ridiculous that taxpayer money being used for the team to build a better store. For $200m, I expected to see more. Just 5 pictures, but I wouldn't have included the Bills store in the pictures if I were the Bills.
PromoTheRobot Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Couldn't agree more. Ridiculous that taxpayer money being used for the team to build a better store. For $200m, I expected to see more. Just 5 pictures, but I wouldn't have included the Bills store in the pictures if I were the Bills. a) $135 million, not $200 million. b) Most of the improvements are structural that you don't necessarily see. PTR
mrags Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Couldn't agree more. Ridiculous that taxpayer money being used for the team to build a better store. For $200m, I expected to see more. Just 5 pictures, but I wouldn't have included the Bills store in the pictures if I were the Bills. people are stupid and want actual things in use. Awnings over gates, wider concourses don't mean anything. Stupid people want hamburger stands, bathrooms, lots of flash, and places to shop.
BillnutinHouston Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 To me mostly cosmetic. Pic 1 - not sure what the interior space would be used for. Losing the parking spots in front of the scoreboard, but they've used that space for their sponsored tailgate lately Pic 2 - pics of people taken outside shown inside. Nice. Purely cosmetic. Not any wider. There are such bottlenecks around the bathrooms it gets very hard to get anywhere. Nice to see my section represented although the yardline/section numbers do not match up. Can't tell if they're adding/renovating bathrooms. Pic 3 - 2 more jumbotrons help the people at rockpile end of the stadium. that's about it. Pic 4 - Covered gate entries and outside screens will be nice. Pic 5 - Updated store - not a huge deal to anyone but them. Based on Russ' comments a few weeks ago, I gather this will be the new and expanded Bills Store. Becoming clear that improvements to "enhance the fan experience" = increasing the team's revenue opportunities. By enlarging the store and getting it out from the corner of the site, and adding video (a.k.a. advertising) boards, the Bills stand to greatly increase revenues. Of course they have to label these "fan upgrades" - they're seeking public funding after all!
sodbuster Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 those jumbotrons look so out of place. forgive me if i seem out of line or wrong, but I don't really see much to be excited about. a store, which we already have, fresh paint in the concourse, new hamburger stands, which are still going to serve the same stuff with the same wait time in line, and screens outside, for people too dumb to get in line early. I sure hope that most of the money is going to structural work. all of these frills are nice and pretty, but I think the biggest thing is that the team has a home. that's all that matters to me. there's only one thing that will fill the stands and keep the team here. that is success on the field.
Heitz Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 a) $135 million, not $200 million. b) Most of the improvements are structural that you don't necessarily see. PTR Also, everyone does know that these are just renderings, right? Don't take them for gospel, they're just how things are supposed to / could eventually look...
Mr. WEO Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 To me mostly cosmetic. Pic 1 - not sure what the interior space would be used for. Losing the parking spots in front of the scoreboard, but they've used that space for their sponsored tailgate lately Pic 2 - pics of people taken outside shown inside. Nice. Purely cosmetic. Not any wider. There are such bottlenecks around the bathrooms it gets very hard to get anywhere. Nice to see my section represented although the yardline/section numbers do not match up. Can't tell if they're adding/renovating bathrooms. Pic 3 - 2 more jumbotrons help the people at rockpile end of the stadium. that's about it. Pic 4 - Covered gate entries and outside screens will be nice. Pic 5 - Updated store - not a huge deal to anyone but them. Good points.
The Senator Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Not sayin' The Ralph doesn't need a face-lift...it does...but this looks a little like putting lipstick on a pig At least they chose Populous as the architectural design firm - maybe Populous will eventually give us a waterfront stadium like they buit in Dublin...
CBD Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 a) $135 million, not $200 million. b) Most of the improvements are structural that you don't necessarily see. PTR Arent the Bills kicking in money for the updates also?
Stevie Ray Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I may be in the minority here, but whats so bad about the organization looking to increase revenues as far as the Bills' store redesign is concerned? Isnt that the goal of any sports team? And as fans, whats so bad about having a bigger, newer merchandise store that offers more stuff? Isnt that what fans do - buy team merchandise?
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I may be in the minority here, but whats so bad about the organization looking to increase revenues as far as the Bills' store redesign is concerned? Isnt that the goal of any sports team? And as fans, whats so bad about having a bigger, newer merchandise store that offers more stuff? Isnt that what fans do - buy team merchandise? Oh I have no problem with that. It's us paying for them to do it that I have a problem with.
PromoTheRobot Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 Arent the Bills kicking in money for the updates also? About $30 million I believe. PTR
eball Posted January 17, 2013 Posted January 17, 2013 I really don't know what fans were expecting. While I love the experience "in the seats" (i.e., sightlines, atmosphere) the rest of the place is pretty much a dump. Anything to make it a little more "comfortable" with some amenities is a-ok in my book. I hope the technology improvements include wifi.
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