l< j Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2013/1/14/3875652/danny-crossman-buffalo-bills-special-teams-coach 6 years as ST coach in Detroit. Former teammate of Marrone, and served together as coaches. Detroit News is reporting that he asked out of his contract to join the Bills.
Beerball Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 http://www.buffaloru...ial-teams-coach 6 years as ST coach in Detroit. Former teammate of Marrone, and served together as coaches. Detroit News is reporting that he asked out of his contract to join the Bills. Dehaven's units were crap and would have been absolute crap if it wasn't for the Bills having decent returners.
BuffaloBill Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2013/1/14/3875652/danny-crossman-buffalo-bills-special-teams-coach 6 years as ST coach in Detroit. Former teammate of Marrone, and served together as coaches. Detroit News is reporting that he asked out of his contract to join the Bills. Hopefully Marrone is not too biased towards his cronies. His staff will make or break him. Time will tell if he is making sound choices.
VanCity Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Detroit`s ST`s were horrible last year. Absolutely brutal! Not overly happy about this one. Maybe it was a case of staffing in Detroit, but he has the most to prove out of the hirings so far. He has an NFL track record with some poor results.
UConn James Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Have been unimpressed with DeHaven. I get that Bobby April no doubt did not want to stay on after not getting the interim coach assignment that went to Fewell, or the HC job he interviewed for after Jauron. A lot of guys walk away under that set of circumstances because it's like their 'nads were cut off and how can you command respect like that, combined with getting the he-double L away from a franchise that's wandering in the desert and wouldn't know what the playoffs were if it slapped them. I hold no animosity there. I'm reading initially that Dey-Twaa's units improved down the stretch this season against some teams with strong ST. But they gave up KO & punt-return TDs two weeks in a row earlier in the year. Anyone know what Crossman had to work with for ST roster there? Admittedly, McK came into the return position very well under DeHaven. But the whole KO specialist, and then punter change thing this season was a complete rooster-up, as the Brits say. Underutilized Lindell (or had no confidence in?) and had him kicking to the 5-10 (by design, as I've seen Lindell say in past articles) way too much in his tenure, which isn't Dehaven's fault because even April was doing that, but it is a problem given the rules change for the KO spot and coverage. Edited January 14, 2013 by UConn James
bobinaz Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I'm not impressed with this either. This one screams of the "hire your friends" mentality. Looks like a good share of the boys from Syracuse are coming on board.
Haven Moses Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Like the old Mayor Daley used to say...."what did you think I was gonna do, hire my enemies??"
NoSaint Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Detroit`s ST`s were horrible last year. Absolutely brutal! Not overly happy about this one. Maybe it was a case of staffing in Detroit, but he has the most to prove out of the hirings so far. He has an NFL track record with some poor results. yea... im not sure how i feel. detroit as a whole was an undisciplined mess. so im not sure how much you put on the ST coach for their MANY blunders on special teams, and how much is that they have created a circus in the building as a whole. remember their returner kneeling at the 5 yard line a couple weeks ago? 4 touchdowns allowed in 2 weeks? disaster. Edited January 14, 2013 by NoSaint
CardinalScotts Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Detroit's offense also sucked- Scott Linehan is an idiot Detroits defense was pathetic - Gunther Cunningham doesn't know a football from a meatball Detroit was just a mess - Jim Schwartz in over his head Detroit special teams not so special - but the panthers the two previous years had good special teams and he coached them too Edited January 14, 2013 by CardinalScotts
eball Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Hopefully Marrone is not too biased towards his cronies. His staff will make or break him. Time will tell if he is making sound choices. Guys, assistant coaches (beyond the coordinators) are ALWAYS cronies. The HC is looking for guys who are going to implement what he wants and will be on the same page. This is so not a big deal. If Marrone trusts them, so should we -- until and unless proven otherwise.
jr1 Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Will Crossman put the kibosh on Ruvell Martin bobblehead day?
NoSaint Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Guys, assistant coaches (beyond the coordinators) are ALWAYS cronies. The HC is looking for guys who are going to implement what he wants and will be on the same page. This is so not a big deal. If Marrone trusts them, so should we -- until and unless proven otherwise. this is a coordinator, for reference sake. we will see if marrone has earned that trust.
Lurker Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Guys, assistant coaches (beyond the coordinators) are ALWAYS cronies. The HC is looking for guys who are going to implement what he wants and will be on the same page. This is so not a big deal. If Marrone trusts them, so should we -- until and unless proven otherwise. A good leader should always hire the best people he can (including those who could end up being their replacement). The ability to work together is important, but the end result -- not comfort level -- is the bottom line. Not too impressed with this hire, or with Driesbach if his Central Bucks West connection got him the job... Edited January 14, 2013 by Lurker
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 I am glad we hired [insert name of anyone other than DeHaven]. [insert name of anyone other than DeHaven] is a a much better coach than DeHaven, and will improve our ST dramatically. [insert name of anyone other than DeHaven] does not believe in directionaly punting out of bounds, releasing your veteran punter mid-season, pushing to draft and then inactivating a kick-off specialist, and having kick coverage units and schemes that are consistently medicore to poor.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 http://www.buffaloru...ial-teams-coach 6 years as ST coach in Detroit. Former teammate of Marrone, and served together as coaches. Detroit News is reporting that he asked out of his contract to join the Bills. that says a lot about Detroit if he wanted out of his contract. It also says a lot in that guys want to work for Marrone and this organization. Finely, for the first time in a long time I feel like we are a top tier destination.
RuntheDamnBall Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 We are 3 for 3 on bald/balding coordinators. Since Ralph includes haircare in the contract language, this must sit well with the organization.
Max997 Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Detroit hasnt had a good return game since Mel Gray played for them like 20 years ago
NoSaint Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 that says a lot about Detroit if he wanted out of his contract. It also says a lot in that guys want to work for Marrone and this organization. Finely, for the first time in a long time I feel like we are a top tier destination. We've been stealing from staffs that are circuses and often giving promotions to those guys.... I wouldn't call us top tier yet but it's nice to be getting guys over other teams instead of ones that are otherwise unemployed, ill give you that.
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Guys, assistant coaches (beyond the coordinators) are ALWAYS cronies. The HC is looking for guys who are going to implement what he wants and will be on the same page. This is so not a big deal. If Marrone trusts them, so should we -- until and unless proven otherwise. It's special teams. You're not implementing a philosophy on special teams. Its just coaching a bunch of guys up to cover a kick well and return a kick well. You don't need to like, or even have familiarity with your ST coordinator, you just need someone who can get the job done. He didn't do that in Detroit so I question whether he'll get it done here. Edited January 14, 2013 by Big Bad Boone
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