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  1. 1. Should the "Redskins" name be changed?

    • Yes. It's a derogatory word and the NFL should set a good example.
      169
    • No. It's not derogatory to most people and changing it would set a bad example.
      302
    • Maybe. I don't have a strong opinion but I wouldn't be fazed by a name change.
      68

  2. 2. How many of the following statements capture your views?

    • It's insensitive to have a team name that denotes skin color.
      150
    • I'm deeply offended; it's borderline bigotry.
      51
    • It's a politically-correct manufactured controversy.
      182
    • Another example of a select "offended" few forcing their PC views on everyone.
      177
    • The term doesn't bother me but it is offensive to many others.
      135
    • I value tradition in this debate.
      105
    • Why is this even an issue?
      229

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26CornerBlitz Hall of Famer

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ummm .... how long has Peter King been writing about the NFL? He's just now taking a stand? Whats changed?

 

Intelligent consideration on the merits of the issue perhaps?

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NY Tribe Launching Radio Ad Against Redskins: http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ny-tribe-launching-radio-ad-redskins-20162009

 

An American Indian tribe in upstate New York said Thursday it will launch a radio ad campaign pressing for the Washington Redskins to shed a name often criticized as offensive.

 

The Oneida Indian Nation said the first ad will run on radio stations in Washington before the team hosts the Philadelphia Eagles in its season opener Monday night. In the ad, Oneida Nation Representative Ray Halbritter says NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell should "stand up to bigotry" by denouncing "the racial slur" in the team's name.

 

"We do not deserve to be called redskins," the Oneida leader says in the ad. "We deserve to be treated as what we are — Americans."

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NY Tribe Launching Radio Ad Against Redskins: http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/ny-tribe-launching-radio-ad-redskins-20162009

 

An American Indian tribe in upstate New York said Thursday it will launch a radio ad campaign pressing for the Washington Redskins to shed a name often criticized as offensive.

 

The Oneida Indian Nation said the first ad will run on radio stations in Washington before the team hosts the Philadelphia Eagles in its season opener Monday night. In the ad, Oneida Nation Representative Ray Halbritter says NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell should "stand up to bigotry" by denouncing "the racial slur" in the team's name.

 

"We do not deserve to be called redskins," the Oneida leader says in the ad. "We deserve to be treated as what we are — Americans."

 

false - i have a friend who is 1/16th cherokee and he says NO ONE opposes the name.

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Ridiculous --- the Indian tribes should worry more about education, family structure and housing conditions and a lot less about the nicknames of sports teams

 

I think they can figure out what concerns them without your condescending opinion. As if the issues you mentioned and not wanting to be a mascot for a football team are mutually exclusive. You should pat them on their collective heads and tell them what's best for them.

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Lots of funny takes here on the topic of the team's name: http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2013-washington-redskins-1257835174

 

Your team: Washington Redskins. I know many sites have decided to not use the term "Redskins," but I feel like they're doing the Redskins a favor that way. If anything, people in the media should refer to the Skins with an even MORE offensive nickname, to really emphasize how stupid it is to use the name REDSKINS in 2013. Here are some options I'm toying with.

  • Savages
  • Savage Beasts
  • Savage Beasts Who Must Be Brought To Heel By The White Man
  • Dirt Worshippers
  • Buffalo Jockeys
  • Pipe-Smokin' Alkies
  • Card Shufflers
  • Big Chief No Fart
  • Cowboy Killers
  • Featherheads
  • Maizemunchers
  • Torn ACLs

That feels more effective to me.

 

People who defend the Redskins' decision to keep their name like to cite polls that overwhelmingly support the franchise's stance. They will tell you that, like steroids in baseball, this is purely a media-driven story and that the average person doesn't care about it. And they're correct. Most people don't care, possibly because most people are not Native Americans because we killed all the Native Americans.

It's ironic that Dan Snyder is the kind of fellow who supports the name Redskins but will happily cry anti-semitism anytime someone dares to criticize him.They are the most tone-deaf franchise in the history of organized sport. To keep their lucrative, racist brand going, they trotted out an Indian chief (who wasn't even a chief and probably wasn't even an Indian) to "support" them as part of a series of team-issued press releases that read like a !@#$ing missive from the North Korean government. "Everyone is happy with our name! WE ARE A PROUD PEOPLE. Dan Snyder has never killed anyone!"

 

As usual, the reader emails are hilarious as well.

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Peter King, A note from me about the use of the nickname “Redskins.” http://mmqb.si.com/2013/09/06/eli-manning-new-york-giants-dallas-cowboys/3/

 

I’ve decided to stop using the Washington team nickname. It’s a name you won’t see me use anymore. The simple reason is that for the last two or three years, I’ve been uneasy when I sat down to write about the team and had to use the nickname. In some stories I’ve tried to use it sparingly. But this year, I decided to stop entirely because it offends too many people, and I don’t want to add to the offensiveness. Some people, and some Native American organizations—such as the highly respected American Indian Movement—think the nickname is a slur.

 

Some of you will view this as grandstanding. Some of you will wonder: You’ve covered the NFL for 30 seasons, and just now you realize this nickname is objectionable? All I can say is, you grow in your business, and you grow as a person, and you try to always be open to ideas and to what others are thinking. I told someone the other day: “That’s right. I changed my mind about it—just like I changed my mind and voted for Art Monk for the Hall of Fame.’’ Some will say you won’t read me, or the site, anymore. That’s okay. It’s a free country. Here’s what it came down to for me: Did I want to be part of a culture that uses a term that many in society view as a racial epithet? The answer kept coming back no—and now that I have been charged to run a website, I thought I would finally do what felt right to me.

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Thanks for sharing. I support King on this one. Good call. There's no place in a civil society for racial epitaphs, and it's a bummer to see so many on this board defending this.

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Frankly I see nothing wrong with them using the word "Redskins" for their team name... as long as they change their logo to either a peanut or a potato.

 

And while the high and mighty - including Misters King and Timmah are at it, why don't they do something about this offensive logo:

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Peter King, A note from me about the use of the nickname “Redskins.” http://mmqb.si.com/2...llas-cowboys/3/

 

I’ve decided to stop using the Washington team nickname. It’s a name you won’t see me use anymore. The simple reason is that for the last two or three years, I’ve been uneasy when I sat down to write about the team and had to use the nickname. In some stories I’ve tried to use it sparingly. But this year, I decided to stop entirely because it offends too many people, and I don’t want to add to the offensiveness. Some people, and some Native American organizations—such as the highly respected American Indian Movement—think the nickname is a slur.

 

Some of you will view this as grandstanding. Some of you will wonder: You’ve covered the NFL for 30 seasons, and just now you realize this nickname is objectionable? All I can say is, you grow in your business, and you grow as a person, and you try to always be open to ideas and to what others are thinking. I told someone the other day: “That’s right. I changed my mind about it—just like I changed my mind and voted for Art Monk for the Hall of Fame.’’ Some will say you won’t read me, or the site, anymore. That’s okay. It’s a free country. Here’s what it came down to for me: Did I want to be part of a culture that uses a term that many in society view as a racial epithet? The answer kept coming back no—and now that I have been charged to run a website, I thought I would finally do what felt right to me.

Good for him... more publicity for SI on a BS issue. :thumbsup:

 

:wallbash: At least spell the word right.

Hey like, that's just petty, ya know? Like yeah...

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Good for him... more publicity for SI on a BS issue. :thumbsup:

 

 

Hey like, that's just petty, ya know? Like yeah...

 

Hmmm Okay, What's truly petty is a lack of any real consideration of this issue by the likes of you. But this is America, so to each his own.

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