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Poll: Should the "Redskins" name be changed?

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  1. 1. Should the "Redskins" name be changed?

    • Yes. It's a derogatory word and the NFL should set a good example.
      169
    • No. It's not derogatory to most people and changing it would set a bad example.
      302
    • Maybe. I don't have a strong opinion but I wouldn't be fazed by a name change.
      68

  2. 2. How many of the following statements capture your views?

    • It's insensitive to have a team name that denotes skin color.
      150
    • I'm deeply offended; it's borderline bigotry.
      51
    • It's a politically-correct manufactured controversy.
      182
    • Another example of a select "offended" few forcing their PC views on everyone.
      177
    • The term doesn't bother me but it is offensive to many others.
      135
    • I value tradition in this debate.
      105
    • Why is this even an issue?
      229

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What the deal w/ Blackhawks? Should they change that one too? It sounds like it could be racist. I don't know anything about that term.

 

Actually named in honor of a specific person when you trace the lineage of the name. Apples to oranges with the term redskin in my opinion.

 

From wiki:

 

The team's first owner was coffee tycoon Frederic McLaughlin, who outbid grain magnate James E. Norris for the franchise. McLaughlin had been a commander with the 333rd Machine Gun Battalion of the 86th Infantry Division during World War I.[3] This Division was nicknamed the "Blackhawk Division", after a Native American of the Sauk nation, Black Hawk, who was a prominent figure in the history of Illinois.[3] McLaughlin evidently named the hockey team in honor of the military unit, making it one of many sports team names using Native Americans as icons.

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What % of people do you think give a crap about the Buffalo Bills other than us fan-atics?

 

I think you missed the point.

 

On this site, where this thread is posted, only 4% of the people on this site seem to care about this great offense. Yet from only 4% of the people of this site finding it offensive, there has spawned a 30 page thread on this site.

 

Your reply to me seems to indicate that you might suffer from a reading comprehension problem.

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I think you missed the point.

 

On this site, where this thread is posted, only 4% of the people on this site seem to care about this great offense. Yet from only 4% of the people of this site finding it offensive, there has spawned a 30 page thread on this site.

 

Your reply to me seems to indicate that you might suffer from a reading comprehension problem.

 

Thanks for pointing this out. I'll give it all of the consideration it merits.

Matt in KC Veteran

Matt in KC

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I think you missed the point.

 

On this site, where this thread is posted, only 4% of the people on this site seem to care about this great offense. Yet from only 4% of the people of this site finding it offensive, there has spawned a 30 page thread on this site.

 

Your reply to me seems to indicate that you might suffer from a reading comprehension problem.

Actually ~30% said "Yes. It's a derogatory word and the NFL should set a good example." and another 12% "Maybe. I don't have a strong opinion but I wouldn't be fazed by a name change" It's all right up at the top for anyone to look at....

 

I don't think "only 4% of the people on this site seem to care about this" is at all accurate.

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Actually ~30% said "Yes. It's a derogatory word and the NFL should set a good example." and another 12% "Maybe. I don't have a strong opinion but I wouldn't be fazed by a name change" It's all right up at the top for anyone to look at....

 

I don't think "only 4% of the people on this site seem to care about this" is at all accurate.

 

That was the only option that implied strong self interest in the poll.

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Matt in KC

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That was the only option that implied strong self interest in the poll.

But I think the 30% who thought it was derogatory explains why the 30 page thread. I was one of them, and I care, and have posted a few times... which I think is what you were questioning.

 

On this site, where this thread is posted, only 4% of the people on this site seem to care about this great offense. Yet from only 4% of the people of this site finding it offensive, there has spawned a 30 page thread on this site.
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That was the only option that implied strong self interest in the poll.

 

to be fair, 4% is a pretty solid number considering our board, as far as i know, isnt overwhelmingly native american and also has a lot of want to be macho tough guys that rage against being PC (not meant to offend or characterize all that are on that side of the argument, but naturally a football board tends to have a heavier helping of those than a general sampling id guess)

 

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to be fair, 4% is a pretty solid number considering our board, as far as i know, isnt overwhelmingly native american and also has a lot of want to be macho tough guys that rage against being PC (not meant to offend or characterize all that are on that side of the argument, but naturally a football board tends to have a heavier helping of those than a general sampling id guess)

 

Macho guys? Native Americans?

 

This guy (far left) has no issue with the DC football team name....

 

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ExiledInIllinois

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What the deal w/ Blackhawks? Should they change that one too? It sounds like it could be racist. I don't know anything about that term.

 

The original owner named the team after his Blackhawk Army Divison (86th Infantry) from WWI.

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/86th_Infantry_Division_(United_States)

 

Actually, the Blackhawks... Originally Black Hawks. They do kinda handle the whole thing like the Illini do down state... In a more repectful way. I am not sure if it rubs some the wrong way with Native head logo?

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Macho guys? Native Americans?

 

This guy (far left) has no issue with the DC football team name....

 

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Why would he? They're not the Washington Steelworkers.

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