Poll: Should the "Redskins" name be changed?

[Just in Atlanta]

We're approaching a PC slippery slope where in the future, much more will be offensive 10 years from now.

 

The Buffalo Bills? The slaughter of bison. The NY Jets? The glorification of U.S. military hegemony or violence against other nationalities.

 

Let's pick nouns, and vote on them to find the 32 most inoffensive names for all races, creeds, sexes and whatever else category people fall into.

 

The Buffalo Balloons? There we go. The NY Jelly Rolls? Shouldn't get a rise.

 

This nonsense is only going to get worse. When we're done with the race thing, it'll be something else, I promise.

 

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And, by the way, Indians, aka redskins, in the context of football, implies the warrior spirit, as does Viking. IT IS NOT intended to be a slur. Vikings raped and pillaged. But that's not apparently offensive to rape victims, because it doesn't have the magical connotation to ethnicity or race, only nationality. It's a superficial barrier that PC types put up, and keep changing.

 

Will nationality nicknames be offensive next? Knicks? Canadians? Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

I agree with Like a Mofo. The name will eventually change, despite the owner's promise, as will other names.

[NoSaint]

We're approaching a PC slippery slope where in the future, much more will be offensive 10 years from now.

 

The Buffalo Bills? The slaughter of bison. The NY Jets? The glorification of U.S. military hegemony or violence against other nationalities.

 

Let's pick nouns, and vote on them to find the 32 most inoffensive names for all races, creeds, sexes and whatever else category people fall into.

 

The Buffalo Balloons? There we go. The NY Jelly Rolls? Shouldn't get a rise.

 

This nonsense is only going to get worse. When we're done with the race thing, it'll be something else, I promise.

 

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And, by the way, Indians, aka redskins, in the context of football, implies the warrior spirit, as does Viking. IT IS NOT intended to be a slur. Vikings raped and pillaged. But that's not apparently offensive to rape victims, because it doesn't have the magical connotation to ethnicity or race, only nationality. It's a superficial barrier that PC types put up, and keep changing.

 

Will nationality nicknames be offensive next? Knicks? Canadians? Etc. Etc. Etc.

 

I agree with Like a Mofo. The name will eventually change, despite the owner's promise, as will other names.

 

It's amazing the terrible comparison points you've come up with. Either you really don't understand the term, or are being willfully dishonest. Vikings is insensitive to rape victims is a comparable in your head?

[DC Tom]

It's amazing the terrible comparison points you've come up with. Either you really don't understand the term, or are being willfully dishonest. Vikings is insensitive to rape victims is a comparable in your head?

 

His point is that it's comparable in SOMEONE'S head. Which it almost certainly is.

[NoSaint]

 

 

His point is that it's comparable in SOMEONE'S head. Which it almost certainly is.

 

Touché, but I think your getting pretty far out I left field to imply Vikings is bad because of rapes centuries ago- it would be a FAR more extremist stance and to compare something that's received mainstream debate for decades to THAT is really pretty far down the slope to a point that I think is fair to say probably doesn't exist in our near future.

[DC Tom]

Touché, but I think your getting pretty far out I left field to imply Vikings is bad because of rapes centuries ago- it would be a FAR more extremist stance and to compare something that's received mainstream debate for decades to THAT is really pretty far down the slope to a point that I think is fair to say probably doesn't exist in our near future.

 

I didn't say it wasn't way out in left field.

 

But I bet you could still find someone who'd find it offensive, especially in this screwed-up oversensitive country. Hell, you can find a person offended by a ham sandwich in America. We're a country of professional victims.

[NoSaint]

 

 

I didn't say it wasn't way out in left field.

 

But I bet you could still find someone who'd find it offensive, especially in this screwed-up oversensitive country. Hell, you can find a person offended by a ham sandwich in America. We're a country of professional victims.

 

We are, but none of those have much in the way of momentum. Which may speak to this, possibly, having some volume of people actually offended.

 

Further, no one has yet forced it, so really he's got nothing to worry about until that happens- unless he's worried about dissenting opinions being shared.

 

 

[Just in Atlanta]

Only ham sandwiches with mayo offend me.

 

Southerners love them. They even put mayo on Italian hoagies, which is an affront to good taste.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Tell you what re-name them the middle aged balding, pale-white skins. I won't whine and am big enough not to be offended.

 

Jeeeeze people just look for things to be offended about. Next thing you know plus sizers will be opposed to the Giants and what exactly is a Cleveland brown? Must be racist.

 

Maybe all teams should just be numbers or letters. Then, Cities won't be offended, animal rights activists won't have a beef, lightning's destructive power won't be misrepresented, meat packers and sea faring pirates won't feel objectified..... Seriously

 

We bills fans can introduce Your fighting 14127-B's.... Try to find what is offensive about that. Someone will.

Edited May 31, 2013 by over 20 years of fanhood

[Mr. WEO]

The bloviating contained in this bloated thread has reached critical mass. Congress must act to shut it down.

 

Mercy.

[Beerball]

One guy's opinion

[todd]

It is exactly the same as naming a team something like, "The Washington Darkies", or "The Washington Blacks", or even "The Washington Negroes"

 

There was a time when Negro was an acceptable term - around the same time the team was named "Redskins." Times change, society becomes more sophisticated (mostly), and we realize the errors of our ways. Changing the name of the team doesn't mean we forget about heritage or history, but it is a representation of how society has improved. We don't denigrate groups of people any more the way we used to when racism and bigotry were more accepted, and that is a good thing.

Edited June 12, 2013 by todd

[dave mcbride]

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[26CornerBlitz]

One guy's opinion

 

I applaud Tim Graham.

[bigK14094]

In this country, we have the 1st amendment, that is free speech. Mr Snyder, the owner of the REDSKINS, does not want to change. End of story. The money talks. Those who wish to protest can avoid patronizing his business.

[eme123]

I applaud Tim Graham.

 

It will be interesting to see how long it takes before Tim Graham slips and uses the "R-Word".

 

In this country, we have the 1st amendment, that is free speech. Mr Snyder, the owner of the REDSKINS, does not want to change. End of story. The money talks. Those who wish to protest can avoid patronizing his business.

 

Yes, Snyder bought the Washington Redskins. He didn't buy the Washington Pelicans.

Forbes Redskins Value: 1.56 Bil

Forbes Pelicans Value: ???? not even close

[26CornerBlitz]

Force of habit says it will occur at some point.

It will be interesting to see how long it takes before Tim Graham slips and uses the "R-Word".Yes, Snyder bought the Washington Redskins. He didn't buy the Washington Pelicans. Forbes Redskins Value: 1.56 Bil Forbes Pelicans Value: ???? not even close

 

So the value of the franchise decreases with a name change? Pretty irrelevant argument with respect to the argument regardless of where one might stand on the issue.

Edited June 12, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz

[Beerball]

Force of habit says it will occur at some point.

 

 

 

So the value of the franchise decreases with a name change? Pretty irrelevant argument with respect to the argument regardless of any where one might stand on the issue.

A name change wouldn't do diddly squat to the value of a franchise IMO. In the short term it would line the owner's pockets. Merchandise sales would skyrocket. I also don't think that he'd have trouble selling out of current stuff. Between collectors and average Joe's he'd have no trouble selling it.

 

I haven't weighed in with an opinion on this topic because my opinion doesn't matter. I am not affected by the name; there are those who are deeply affected and they deserve to be heard.

[Mr. WEO]

I applaud Tim Graham.

 

I don't have a strong opinion either way, but this is self serving grandstanding by Graham. He has spent his entire career covering sports and now, because this story is in the news, he has suddenly come to the conclusion that the name Redskins is derogatory and he announces to all of us that he will no longer utter this word?

 

Get over yourself--you're a sports writer. This is such nonsense-spare us the sanctimony and write your sports pieces.

Edited June 12, 2013 by Mr. WEO

[26CornerBlitz]

I don't have a strong opinion either way, but this is self serving grandstanding by Graham. He has spent his entire career covering sports and now, because this story is in the news, he has suddenly come to the conclusion that the name Redskins is derogatory and he announces to all of us that he will no longer utter this word?

 

Get over yourself--you're a sports writer. This is such nonsense-spare us the santimony and write your sports pieces.

 

Damn, you're cynical. People are unable to change or evolve over time?

[Ralph W.]

Funny thing is the name has no affect on Indians "Native Americans" TBH they don't even like to be called Native Americans it is a white word made up. The only people that have a problem with the name is white people which is funny when you think about it.

Edited June 12, 2013 by EJ3