Frez Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 Enlighten me please.... How many college coaches making the transition to the NFL (head coach position) have had success? I'm curious of what to really expect with our new college coaching staff from Syracuse. Thanks! Frez
Wooderson Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 Just off the top of my head Successful (so far): Jim Harbaugh Pete Carroll Tom Coughlin Unsuccessful: Saban Spurrier Petrino Kiffin
reddogblitz Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 All the guys mentioned were successful college coaches. What about .500 college coaches moving to the NFL?
Dibs Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 All the guys mentioned were successful college coaches. What about .500 college coaches moving to the NFL? ....and what about college coaches that had 3 years OC experience in the NFL prior to becoming a college HC?
NoSaint Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Can we focus please - how successful are USC qbs?
reddogblitz Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Other Successful ones: Jimmy Johnson Barry Switzer Other unsuccessful ones: Steve Spurier Lou Holtz Bud Wilkinson John McKay Nick Saban Mike Riley Butch Davis Bobby Petrino Dennis Ericson Frank Kush Dick MacPherson (Syracuse) Rick Brooks
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Other Successful ones: Jimmy Johnson Barry Switzer Other unsuccessful ones: Steve Spurier Lou Holtz Bud Wilkinson John McKay Nick Saban Mike Riley Butch Davis Bobby Petrino Dennis Ericson Frank Kush Dick MacPherson (Syracuse) Rick Brooks The fail list is impressive. Also important to note is JJ was 1-15 first year with cowboys.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 One trend it seems to be is many had a very small amount of NFL experience compared to the years they had in college. Spurrier may have been on some NFL staff years ago I believe, but then was in college for maybe close to 20 years?? Similar path for Holtz and Saban.
machine gun kelly Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 With 4 yrs on the jets, two years as an OC for the Saints, and three years turning a team around at SU, I like the pic. We were never getting a Gruden to come here. Hiring a DC who has run a consistent top 10 defense is smart. We just now know we're picking up LB, CB, and a QB in free agency or draft.
Acantha Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 A better question is how many former players, former NFL coordinators, and college head coaches have been successful in the NFL. Ignoring his entire history doesn't make sense.
RealityCheck Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 He has a 50/50 chance of winning a Super Bowl here. He either will or he won't. 2 possible outcomes. I'll take those odds.
eball Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 This is one of those questions for which there are an almost infinite number of variables, and I really don't think there's a "cookie cutter" answer other than to say it's very difficult if a coach is coming from college with little or no NFL experience. I would not label Marrone a "college coach" -- he has significant NFL experience as a player, position coach, and coordinator.
White Linen Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 I never understand why we keep asking this question. There isn't anything that can be learned. The fact is coaches fail in groves coming from everywhere. There's only one true formula : Get an excellent QB, a competent coach, and hope the chemistry between them is strong.
Mr. WEO Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 He has a 50/50 chance of winning a Super Bowl here. He either will or he won't. 2 possible outcomes. I'll take those odds. Huh?? Throw away your diploma. This is one of those questions for which there are an almost infinite number of variables, and I really don't think there's a "cookie cutter" answer other than to say it's very difficult if a coach is coming from college with little or no NFL experience. I would not label Marrone a "college coach" -- he has significant NFL experience as a player, position coach, and coordinator. Well....he was Payton's Modkins in NO.
eball Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Well....he was Payton's Modkins in NO. Since neither of us know what Marrone's exact responsibilities were in N.O., nor what Modkins' role was in Buffalo, I don't think you can make a blanket statement like that. The only thing we are certain of is that neither called the plays on gameday. I also think we can agree that Payton > Gailey.
truth on hold Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 I never understand why we keep asking this question. There isn't anything that can be learned. The fact is coaches fail in groves coming from everywhere. There's only one true formula : Get an excellent QB, a competent coach, and hope the chemistry between them is strong. That's true for every winner there will be multiple losers. Reason being the winners tend to stay in their jobs a lot longer. Bills have had something like 4-5 coaches since bellichik took over in NE.
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