The Senator Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 Are you going to sing us the alma mater now? I was leaning more towards "Give My Regards to Davy"... GO BIG RED!!!!!
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 I was leaning more towards "Give My Regards to Davy"... GO BIG RED!!!!! That is much more fitting. But they need to do a theatrical version of that with some really hokey tap dance interlude during the "give my regards" part. Happy New Year Davy!
RogerNapalm Posted January 11, 2013 Author Posted January 11, 2013 This argument that there's something in the water at USC that keeps QBs from playing well in the NFL (I'm assuming it's water b/c it obviously has nothing to do with offensive system or coaching staff) is probably the most intellectually lazy arguments to pick up traction around here. It makes about as much sense as dismissing a prospect named Mike Williams b/c past players named Mike Williams weren't motivated. I swear I could get more thoughtful analysis out of a 4th grader. Good point! We should definitely also avoid anyone named Mike Williams!
rayray808 Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 I wish I could see OP's face WHEN we draft Barkley
Doc Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 OK, so what is it about Barkley that makes him unlike any of the USC busts? Never mind that his shoulder exam will be the biggest news about him at the Combine.
The Senator Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 I wish I could see OP's face WHEN we draft Barkley Ditto, rayray - I can DEFINITELY see the Bills taking Barkley at the #8 spot *and I expect, under Marrone/Hackett, he'll in in the NFL from day one (assuming the Bills' O-line stays intact) GO BILLSSS!!!!
Dibs Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 I'm looking forward to the time when the USC QB is named Mike Williams. Obviously it will cancel out and he will be a champion.
CBD Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 even more than the Cal argument, it was all Tedford coached QBs are terrible (Harrington, Carr). I get the idea of type casting but just like it real life, you need to explore each person individually. Kyle Boller
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 It's funny because Tedford is probably a great teacher of quarterbacks. He's coached 8 quarterbacks who went on to the NFL. I'm looking forward to the time when the USC QB is named Mike Williams. He'd probably wear #11 (Norwood, Rob Johnson, Drew Bledsoe). The triple whammy.
John from Riverside Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 I dont discount Barkley because he is a USC QB....I discount him because I watch too much of him down in these parts and he SUCKKKKS
Rob's House Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 It seems Matt Barkley has fallen out of favor, but I still think he's the closest thing to a blue chip QB in this draft. I realize there's a higher risk/reward possibility from a guy like Glennon or G Smith, but seeing as how we've got most of the pieces in place I'd prefer to take the safe route. I know he didn't have as good a year as in 2011, but given the coaching and protection issues he still had a pretty good stat line, completing over 60% of his passes with 36 TDs to 15 Ints mostly against pretty solid opposition. So other than being a pretty boy from USC with good but not great arm strength, are there any major knocks against him? How would yall feel about Matt Barkley in a Bills uniform? * yes, I know there are other Matt Barkley threads, but I thought it would be nice to have one predicated upon the prospect of him being an NFL QB rather than being from USC or having a hot sister.
K-9 Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 I'm hearing there are more than just minor concerns about his shoulder. If he can't convince the medical staff at the combine that he's 100% and he under performs at his pro day, etc. he's gonna drop. GO BILLS!!!
Rob's House Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 I'm hearing there are more than just minor concerns about his shoulder. If he can't convince the medical staff at the combine that he's 100% and he under performs at his pro day, etc. he's gonna drop. GO BILLS!!! Supposing his shoulder checks out okay, how would that affect opinions? And if not, would you take a flyer on him in a later round? IIRC Sam Bradford had shoulder concerns coming out of college also.
NoSaint Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 It seems Matt Barkley has fallen out of favor, but I still think he's the closest thing to a blue chip QB in this draft. I realize there's a higher risk/reward possibility from a guy like Glennon or G Smith, but seeing as how we've got most of the pieces in place I'd prefer to take the safe route. I know he didn't have as good a year as in 2011, but given the coaching and protection issues he still had a pretty good stat line, completing over 60% of his passes with 36 TDs to 15 Ints mostly against pretty solid opposition. So other than being a pretty boy from USC with good but not great arm strength, are there any major knocks against him? How would yall feel about Matt Barkley in a Bills uniform? * yes, I know there are other Matt Barkley threads, but I thought it would be nice to have one predicated upon the prospect of him being an NFL QB rather than being from USC or having a hot sister. Anything about him that you think makes him more polished than smith at this point?
Rob's House Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 Anything about him that you think makes him more polished than smith at this point? When he has time he goes through his progressions, does a lot of pre-snap adjustments, and I've seen him come through under pressure. In the games I've seen Smith has a good arm and is accurate, but he seems to lock in on his reciever and I haven't seen him pressured much so I can't say how he would respond to it. Nothing against Smith, I just think Barkley is a safer pick.
major Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 Barkley is probably the best in this draft-close 2nd being Landry jones
ganesh Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 I agree Barkley would be our safe pick and if the Bills brass thinks he is the one they want, they have to get him at #8 in the 1st round as he will not be available at where they pick in the 2nd round. Barkley can make his throws and is an accurate QB and comes from a pro-style offense. The biggest downfalls of most of the QBs that we have had except for Edwards was accuracy....
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 Barkley is a BUM who couldn't win a big game in the Pac 12 to save his life, plays for USC... if the Bills drafted him he'd be the worst pick since Mike Williams.
NewEra Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 Barkley is probably the best in this draft-close 2nd being Landry jones Lol
thewildrabbit Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 Barkley is a mini me of Ryan Fitzpatrick, smart, can read defenses and make decent throws, but lacks a big arm, and deep ball accuracy....sound familiar? Ask any current NFL QB what it's like to throw a football in the snowy cold blustery winds of December in Buffalo's RWS. For that matter anytime there is a strong wind factor you need a QB with a big arm to put a tight spiral on the ball to cut thru the wind.Jim Kelly could do that! Although Barkley might be more NFL ready atm from playing in a pro set, I'd rather draft a guy like Tyler Bray out of Tenn, 6'5" 215 and an arm as strong as Jay Cutler
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