papazoid Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 don't worry, if the bills don't make a splash at QB, either via the draft or free agency.......we will be drafting even higher in 2014.
BillsInMaine Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I'd take Ogletree at 8. Nassib in the 2nd This is exactly what I want also. I just posted a similar draft in another thread.
Hater Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I have Severe Lumbar Spinal Stenosis with two Herniated Discs T5 & T8, When It first effected me, I couldn't walk, my kidney almost shut down & I could have die without medical care my left calf was pinched for months, it felt like a vice grip was on my calf, squeezing tighter & tighter 24/7, it took me over two years to walk right again &I still have pain everyday I take 13 pills a day to keep me on my feet, I am lucky, some people never get back on their feet I wish Jarvis Jones the best, I hope it never get worse for him, maybe he should consider not playing football anymore
simpleman Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Just like buying cars, if you allow yourself to "fall in love" with a particular one, it clouds your mind and you have a good chance of getting burned. There is no real sure thing 1st round QB talent in the draft, don't fool yourself and convince yourself there is. The talent is all 2nd round at best this year. Rank your QB's and pick the best available in the 2nd round, someone will be there. As Astro listed, a lot of talent in the mid 1st. If you get a chance to trade down with someone in that range, for their 1st and a 2nd, then do it, Pick the BPA for your other positions of need, where there actually is legitimate 1st round talent available. Pick another developmental QB in the later rounds as well.
JPS Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I would happily take the following at #8. #1- Jarvis Jones * - OLB #2- Damontre Moore * - DE #4- Star Lotulelei - DT #5- Chance Warmack - G #6- Manti Te'o - LB #8- Barkevious Mingo * - DE #10- Dee Milliner * - CB In the bowl games I watched, Moore looked ordinary. Warmack was dominant (over Te'o). And Millner. He's a Bill, right?
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 It's amazing how much stock people put into a guy's rankings who just went to community college and was never involved in football at any level. They're interesting to look at but if someone uses Kiper or McShay's rankings as gospel, they are insane.
JohnC Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I'd love to see a live cam of Bill from NYC if that were to happen. If you think that Bill was a zealot after the drafting of Spiller then wait and see how he would react to a drafting of a CB in the first or second round. It would be worse than a crusade; it would be a jihad!
DallasBillsFan1 Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Wow so Glennon is the 1st QB and he's all the way at 22? I can't remember a draft in the past where the QB's were ranked so low. Figures, it's the year we are drafting one too How true ... AND in 2014, the QB prospects look strong according to guys on Sirius XM NFL channel. Not good timing for Bills, seemingly. They'll need to get creative or get lucky.
BUFFALOTONE Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Ogletree from Georgia has been a guy I've had my eye on...I think he would be a great pick. He literally has to put on 20 lbs. At 230 he will not cut it at LBer, hes more of a hybrid safety from what I read and saw through the season.
JPS Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 It's amazing how much stock people put into a guy's rankings who just went to community college and was never involved in football at any level. They're interesting to look at but if someone uses Kiper or McShay's rankings as gospel, they are insane. You have to give Kiper 1 thing, other than Joel Buchsbaum, he was the only guy doing this draft stuff 25 years ago. Part of us talking about it is because guys like him put it out there for discussion.
truth on hold Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Tyler Wilson looks strong to me. Arm strength unquestionable. Tough and confident to hang in there and make plays. Runs up tempo offense, can throw under pressure, which is essential in NFL. If he's there at 8 I take him, if not te'o. If geno goes #1 Tyler just may be there, its not a given picks 2-7 take a QB.
bobobonators Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 i think it's important to note that this is NOT a mock. Kiper is telling you who he thinks the best players are regardless of a team's needs. Kiper's mock would probably look much different, with 1 or 2 QB's sprinkled in the top 10. my wishlist at #8 would be Bjoern Werner, Jarvis Jones, Mingo, or Geno.
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 You have to give Kiper 1 thing, other than Joel Buchsbaum, he was the only guy doing this draft stuff 25 years ago. Part of us talking about it is because guys like him put it out there for discussion. Agree 100%. I respect him as a business man and he's made alot of money doing it. But the guy is hardly a NFL insider. He has a ton of misses. He just doesn't have to take accountability for them. If a guy in a NFL FO misses too much, they lose their job.
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 let me do you one better: that's what we should do with our first 2 picks. let me do you, and i, 2 better: thats what we should do with our first 3 picks. draft geno #1. move back into the first, take barkley #2. take nassib in the second. cut fitz, thigpen, let jackson walk. open training camp with a competition between all 3. Thigpen and Jackson are free agents. Fitz is the only QB on the team at this point. It's amazing how much stock people put into a guy's rankings who just went to community college and was never involved in football at any level. They're interesting to look at but if someone uses Kiper or McShay's rankings as gospel, they are insane. OTOH, one of the most brilliant people I've ever met never went to college, community or otherwise.
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Thigpen and Jackson are free agents. Fitz is the only QB on the team at this point. OTOH, one of the most brilliant people I've ever met never went to college, community or otherwise. IMO, there is zero reason not to draft 2 QBs. You should always have a development QB on your roster.
tennesseeboy Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Well we will certainly be looking at some good linebackers and offensive linemen in the first round, and I would think we'd get the best linebacker available. Quarterback in the second sounds like a plan and we should get one of the "top" qbs of a fairly disappointing class if we go that route. I'm wondering whether we ought to look at some top flight receiver or CB at 2 and see if we can pick up some qb to tread water this year until next year when some interesting qb prospects will be available.
JPS Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Agree 100%. I respect him as a business man and he's made alot of money doing it. But the guy is hardly a NFL insider. He has a ton of misses. He just doesn't have to take accountability for them. If a guy in a NFL FO misses too much, they lose their job. What a job....
bobobonators Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 is it just me, but i can't stop thinking of a christmas story, "be sure to drink your ovaltine" whenever i hear ogletree.
purple haze Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 (edited) Don't be surprised if Nassib is available in the 2nd round. It seems like the Bills are the only team that holds him that high. DE or LB in the first round is the right pick. Need to stop the run first before we can think offense. Not necessarily. The player you don't hear teams talking about or talking about negatively are often times the player they want. And we're getting ahead of ourselves anyway. By the time the combine and pro day workouts are done many of these QB's will move up the draft board. My prediction is the Bills will grab a LB/DE at pick 8 then trade back into the bottom of the first round and grab their QB. Edited January 10, 2013 by purple haze
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