Overseas Bills Fan Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Williams, Dareus or Carrington? And what could we get for them?
NoSaint Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 none of the above in fact dareus and carrington were drafted for the 34, and not as NT
PaattMaann Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 yea, none of the above....we would need and use them all as DT and DE's
jcbillsfan Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Base 3-4 of carrington Williams and Darius is a nice group. Depth could be a Problem. Figure she pard and Burnett lib. Outside Mario and ....
AReed Deep For6 Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) Base 3-4 of carrington Williams and Darius is a nice group. Depth could be a Problem. Figure she pard and Burnett lib. Outside Mario and .... Where does Kyle (or Mario?) fit in this scenario? Edited January 9, 2013 by AReed Deep For6
NoSaint Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Where does Kyle (or Mario?) fit in this scenario? kyle played nose and some end last time. mario has played olb in the 34. so short answer, likely the same spots as last go around if we line up in that front.
JM57 Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Where does Kyle (or Mario?) fit in this scenario? Kyle will have to suck it up as the NT if Dareus and Carrington are the 3-4 DE's. Mario would be an OLB because of his frame/athleticism
Dr. Trooth Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Barnett 4 sure is g-o-n-e. Probably Kelsay, and I don't think Moore is sure thing. What I see it looks like.... only from my perspective.... DL M. Williams, Darious, K Williams. Carrington, Troup (or incoming NT) plus incoming DE LBS Moats, Sheppard, White (or incoming ILB), Anderson Bradham, perhaps Moore, and or White. At the very least they must bring in another Nose tackle and ILB. Between the tackles is where the Bills got gouged. Also, because of his size, the Bills are going to have to figure out where he fits, if at all, and move from there.
mrags Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 I can tell you that Moore, Merriman, and Mario would be some sick OLBs in that defense. Carrington, Johnson, Dareus would be solid DEs. And Kyle Williams best fit would be in the trading block as he would receive the most interest since he's over rated by everyone including other teams and coaches. We could potentially get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him and then draft or sign via FA our future NT in the 3-4. If Kyle stays, he would be a DE along with Dareus. Occasionally splitting time with whoever takes the DT spot.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Barnett 4 sure is g-o-n-e. Probably Kelsay, and I don't think Moore is sure thing. What I see it looks like.... only from my perspective.... DL M. Williams, Darious, K Williams. Carrington, Troup (or incoming NT) plus incoming DE LBS Moats, Sheppard, White (or incoming ILB), Anderson Bradham, perhaps Moore, and or White. At the very least they must bring in another Nose tackle and ILB. Between the tackles is where the Bills got gouged. Also, because of his size, the Bills are going to have to figure out where he fits, if at all, and move from there. I'd be fine with most of this. If troup can actually get on the field as a depth NT, that pick would actually make some sense. The backers suck though...
jcbillsfan Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 HAs there been any news of troupe's health ?
cale Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 This has been floating around the 'net. They were playing a hybrid for a while. Pettine wanted to transition to a 4-3. He has obviously coached a 3-4. I love this. Find the system that fits your players. Not the other way around. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/15/jets-shifting-to-more-4-3-defense-to-try-to-generate-sacks/
BillsInMaine Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Didn't Moats have a good season when we were in the 3-4?
PeteU Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 The jets used 3 downline men less than 20 percent of the time last year on defense. Why would we give up what should be the strength of this team? Another example of an ill informed Bills fan. Terrible thread!
BobChalmers Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) You should read this too regarding the Jets defense .. not really a 3-4 but more of a 46. Posted elsewhere but copied here for your convenience. http://www.scardraft...anHybrid46.html Interestingly, 2 of the top players the writer called out in the 2011 draft for this scheme are on the Bills (Dareus at DE and A. Williams at FS). Edited January 9, 2013 by BobChalmers
Dr. Trooth Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 Didn't Moats have a good season when we were in the 3-4? Yes... he did. And, he is the only pure 3-4 LB on the roster.
cosmo Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 yea, none of the above....we would need and use them all as DT and DE's Yeah this will probably be better for Dareus, he would move between DT and DE when he was at Alabama where he won the defensive MVP of the 2010 BCS title game playing that way.
BuffaloBillsForever Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 The jets used 3 downline men less than 20 percent of the time last year on defense. Why would we give up what should be the strength of this team? Another example of an ill informed Bills fan. Terrible thread! You hit the nail on the head!
mrags Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 You should read this too regarding the Jets defense .. not really a 3-4 but more of a 4-6. Posted elsewhere but copied here for your convenience. http://www.scardraft.com/RyanHybrid46.html Interestingly, 2 of the top players the writer called out in the 2011 draft for this scheme are on the Bills (Dareus at DE and A. Williams at FS). nice find
Max997 Posted January 9, 2013 Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) I think Mario stays at DE no matter what Carrington is a backup either way Edited January 9, 2013 by Max997
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