C.Biscuit97 Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 I hated the pick when 9ers took him 1 overall. And for his first few years in the league he validated my concern. But I have to admit over the last 2 he's shown a lot of improvement. I love how he can run an uptempo offense, and at least he looks like a leader and competitor out there. I don't think he'll ever have an elite arm like Brady or Eli, and hes prone to some real clunker outings at times, but still he was an overtime loss last year from being in the Super Bowl. And anything could have happened had they made it. So I don't see how one can definitively say you can't win a Super Bowl with him. It's stupid to say you can't win with any QB. You once couldn't win a SB with Peyton. But Smith would be more of the exception than the rule. The way the 49ers are built, a lot of Qbs could have played well for them. Harbaugh puts his QBs in great situations. If you honestly think Smith can carry a team, it will be a huge mistake. He is a slightly better version of Fitz.
BuffBill Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Any idea what they'd want for him? I floated the idea of bundling Fitz w/ a pick or 2 in a trade for Smith earlier but it didn't get much traction. The theory is that he'd give them a veteran b/u who's significantly better than what they can sign off the street, and he'd probably be willing to renegotiate his contract to stay employed. Any thoughts? I don't see anyone trading much if anything for Fitz, especially with his contract. He will be cut hopefully.
Adam Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 How can we know what quarterback to look for when we don't have a coach, to know what type of offense we will have?
stony Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 FYP The thinking should always be "how can we win the Superbowl THIS year." Alex Smith is not going to win a superbowl for the Bills. Only a real quarterback can do that. And a front office that brings him in is not trying to win the superbowl THIS year. Smith would be part of a 2-3 year plan, and I'm sick of 2-3 year plans. Of course it should, but who in your estimation should we pursue to fulfill this? A rookie?
1B4IDie Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Right, except these potential coaches are being asked in the interview how they view working with "Alex Smith", which adds to the rumor. The idea is our FO is looking for someone who is comfortable coaching Alex Smith, potentially. That would be the most bass ackward thing I have heard of, I highly highly highly doubt the decision has been made to acquire Alex Smith and they are looking for a coach to fit the QB. If I were a GM and I were interviewing multiple NFC West Coaching Candidates, and I knew that Alex Smith may become available it would be just basic due diligence to pick their brain while you have them in for an interview. That doesn't mean they are going to base thier coaching decision on whether they like Alex Smith or not.
billsrcursed Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 That would be the most bass ackward thing I have heard of, I highly highly highly doubt the decision has been made to acquire Alex Smith and they are looking for a coach to fit the QB. If I were a GM and I were interviewing multiple NFC West Coaching Candidates, and I knew that Alex Smith may become available it would be just basic due diligence to pick their brain while you have them in for an interview. That doesn't mean they are going to base thier coaching decision on whether they like Alex Smith or not. I would tend to agree with you, however I believe that is where this rumor originated. Again, just passing what I read here on to you, not saying I was in agreemant with that approach, or even believed it for that matter. TBH, I'm not even sure how someone knew that question was asked.
beerme1 Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Lovie could you work with Alex Smith? Thats a joke right? I had success with Rex Grossman and I think with Alex we at least make the playoffs right off the bat. Welcome to the Buffalo Bills Lovie.
RyanC883 Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 People will crap on this, but I'm cool with it as long as we draft a QB in rds 1-3 As long as he's not brought in to be the unquestioned starter, and we don't trade anything above a 4th round pick.
Pete Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 As long as he's not brought in to be the unquestioned starter, and we don't trade anything above a 4th round pick. I would trade a 4th for Smith, keep the Amish rifle, and draft a QB in the first 3 rounds to groom. QB depth would be outstanding
Just in Atlanta Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 No one can guarantee a QB until we have a coach.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 I would trade a 4th for Smith, keep the Amish rifle, and draft a QB in the first 3 rounds to groom. QB depth would be outstanding SF will waive Smith at some point because of a 3 million dollar roster bonus next year. It will not be necessary to give up anything for him. I'd cut the Amish popgun and draft a young QB to groom for the long term.
mannc Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 SF will waive Smith at some point because of a 3 million dollar roster bonus next year. It will not be necessary to give up anything for him. I'd cut the Amish popgun and draft a young QB to groom for the long term. He will be cut only if no team is willing to give up a draft pick for him under his current contract. I think a few will, because his contract is on the low end for starting QBs. If there are no good offers, it's also possible, although not very likely, that the 49ers will just decide to keep him for a year as a backup to CK, who's contract is very modest.
26CornerBlitz Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 He will be cut only if no team is willing to give up a draft pick for him under his current contract. I think a few will, because his contract is on the low end for starting QBs. If there are no good offers, it's also possible, although not very likely, that the 49ers will just decide to keep him for a year as a backup to CK, who's contract is very modest. You could be correct, but I think any potential teams would be more inclined to draft and go with a young guy rather than give up something for him unless they believe he can help them compete for a playoff berth right away. Most of the teams with QB issues are bad however. I think the market for Smith will be limited.
NoSaint Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 I would trade a 4th for Smith, keep the Amish rifle, and draft a QB in the first 3 rounds to groom. QB depth would be outstanding only problem - thats potentially 25m in salary (if its a 1st round rookie) tied up in qb this year. the depth may be outstanding but the value would not.
Adam Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 FYP The thinking should always be "how can we win the Superbowl THIS year." Alex Smith is not going to win a superbowl for the Bills. Only a real quarterback can do that. And a front office that brings him in is not trying to win the superbowl THIS year. Smith would be part of a 2-3 year plan, and I'm sick of 2-3 year plans. That type of thinking makes a team a perrenial loser, unless it already is a contender.
Bufcomments Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 People will crap on this, but I'm cool with it as long as we draft a QB in rds 1-3 Actually I can live with this as long as they rid of Fitz also....... sign me up. I think A. Smith plus Stevie , C.J. Freddie ( in a backup 3rd down role) and another WR in the draft we would have a decent Offense. Lovie could you work with Alex Smith? Thats a joke right? I had success with Rex Grossman and I think with Alex we at least make the playoffs right off the bat. Welcome to the Buffalo Bills Lovie. and Lovie who woild be your OC? I think that would be my first question.
BobChalmers Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 I would trade a 4th for Smith, keep the Amish rifle, and draft a QB in the first 3 rounds to groom. QB depth would be outstanding If only it weren't for that pesky salary cap thingy, this wouldn't be a stupid idea. I am fine with Smith. Fitz needs to go so the veterans don't get the wrong idea.
GibranHamdansGhost Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Isn't Alex Smith the reincarnation of Ryan Fitzpatrick?
Omar Little Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Isn't Alex Smith the reincarnation of Ryan Fitzpatrick? No. The only thing they have in common is they aren't great at throwing downfield, but Smith does everything else better. He'd be an easy upgrade over Fitz.
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