DrDawkinstein Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 ok ok im learning the etiquette-1st post (probably last) but i will say if we do hire the AZ D coordinator then I stand by my original post Whaley should not be making those types of statements...what people are overlooking is that article that i referred to was removed So youre worried that Whaley telling us who he wants will interfere with hiring them. But then say "if we do hire" him, he's still wrong? Wouldnt that mean it worked out anyways and your concerns were completely unnecessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 You should be fired from your law office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 ok ok im learning the etiquette-1st post (probably last) but i will say if we do hire the AZ D coordinator then I stand by my original post Whaley should not be making those types of statements...what people are overlooking is that article that i referred to was removed Chops get busted around here. No worries. As to your point, I think you're reading into it far too much. The word hopefully is pretty much a throw-away generic and could have started any multitude of statements. It doesn't have to mean "Hopefully we can hire them immediately" as you seem to be suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 So youre worried that Whaley telling us who he wants will interfere with hiring them. But then say "if we do hire" him, he's still wrong? Wouldnt that mean it worked out anyways and your concerns were completely unnecessary? And that the league requested interview that's publicly reported would also not indicate interest. That his one comment here is what would have him scooped up from under us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JinWPB Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 What do you call a lawyer at the bottom of the ocean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 what people are overlooking is that article that i referred to was removed did you say that? if so i missed it and i apologize. but you should always provide direct sources so that people can go look at any comments themselves and see the wider context What do you call a lawyer at the bottom of the ocean? abqmarko? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafter Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I say we burn the OP at the stake, then stone him. No....I say we stone him and then burn him at the stake!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z0VMI67a4Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Wow!!! You guys are rough! I listened to the interview and when he said "hopefully… we'll see what happens" it jumped out at me too. The wording is awkward to say the least. My other observation is that it sounded like Whaley was not very comfortable during the interview and wanted to get out of it ASAP. Those things said, I don't think there's much consequence to his stumbling comment either way. But regardless, take it easy on the new guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 ...I have serious issues with Whaleys professionalism... No way! http://www.deathbyemail.com/2007/05/does_the_nfl_th.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I'm completely lost, no lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 there are 2 choices 1) he is playing possum 2) He wants one of these guys if so he shouldnt be putting it out there prematurely. Oh, low talker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 You should be fired from your law office. What do you call a lawyer at the bottom of the ocean? There's gold in this thread Jerry. GOLD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Do you think the DC for the cardinals is the highest priority for all the teams searching for HC's??? Yes. Horton has been mentioned as a hot HC candidate for a few weeks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I have to say if Whaley has meade these comments “We go way back, we won Super Bowls together so I have high regard for their coaching acumen. Personally, I know those guys and hopefully…we’ll see what happens. I know they’ve got a lot of opportunities, we haven’t decided, we’ve still got to figure out what we’re going to do and after that, I don’t think it’ll make a decision on if they’re going to be our coach, but I can shed some insight on how they performed while I was with them and as people.” These comments are posted on the WGR web site if they are legitimate and prove accurate I have some real issues with his lack of candor. I work in a legal profession and deal with statements all day long, if the Bills end up taking either of these coaches, and if so I'd anticiapte it by weeks end, I have serious issues with Whaleys professionalism.. "hopefully we will see what happens" speaks volumes. Even if he thinks they are the best candiadtes, (which I dont) he should not be tipping his hand. Would any top level executive state/tip his hand and say he was going tp buy a certain stock or company before a contaact or agreement was reached... NO. If either of these guys (Wheissy or his D coordiantor) are hired it shows what bush league Whaley is and what the Bills have to look forward to. What a person say's and doesnt say is huge...."hopefully" so expalin that to me Whaley in objective fashion...i guess your mind i made up....if the hire goes through you and Russ are bush league already tipping your hand like that...prior to an interview etc what a mess if this is misdirection than id say AWESOME job guys, glad to see some savvy occuring at two bills drive! What coaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I just hope they do as Brandon said they would do "a exhaustive search to find the right guy for the job". Don't go with the first one or 2 guys you interview look at a bunch of them unless a guy with a Bellechek resume comes along then jump on the hire. Don't grab a guy right off the bat that has been fired because he didn't live up to the winning standard expected in the NFL that's just plain crazy, we have already been down that road. Get a guy that has shown he can win more than just that one season like DJ did. Bring in a guy that has championships under his belt . Bring in Marc Trestman !! For goodness sakes what does it take to just talk to the guy ? He has 2 consecutive Grey Cup Championships what more do you need to know & we can't even give the guy a call ?? Thats OK just get Wisenhunt or one of the others that were fired that will work ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I just hope they do as Brandon said they would do "a exhaustive search to find the right guy for the job". Don't go with the first one or 2 guys you interview look at a bunch of them unless a guy with a Bellechek resume comes along then jump on the hire. Don't grab a guy right off the bat that has been fired because he didn't live up to the winning standard expected in the NFL that's just plain crazy, we have already been down that road. Get a guy that has shown he can win more than just that one season like DJ did. Bring in a guy that has championships under his belt . Bring in Marc Trestman !! For goodness sakes what does it take to just talk to the guy ? He has 2 consecutive Grey Cup Championships what more do you need to know & we can't even give the guy a call ?? Thats OK just get Wisenhunt or one of the others that were fired that will work ... Marc Trestman was fired too (in the past). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLynchTrain Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) Wow!!! You guys are rough! I listened to the interview and when he said "hopefully… we'll see what happens" it jumped out at me too. The wording is awkward to say the least. My other observation is that it sounded like Whaley was not very comfortable during the interview and wanted to get out of it ASAP. Those things said, I don't think there's much consequence to his stumbling comment either way. But regardless, take it easy on the new guy! I agree with you SJBF that there probably isn't much consequence to this. It's probably looking for something where there's nothing, which I believe we're all guilty of doing from time to time. I can't speak on the OP's idea that the original story was removed, but I do think its interesting that Chris Brown posted a story an hour ago with a quote attributed to Whaley with "Personally I know him and we'll see what happens. I know he's got a lot of opportunities." The word hopefully has been removed completely, which Whaley clearly said in the interview. I'll probably just chalk this up to a reporter (albeit a paid shill) cleaning up a quote of his coworker. Do most reporters clean up quotes this way? I was under the impression that they usually write what they hear, enter in words using [brackets] for emphasis, and add sic when they need to show the spelling or grammar error is on the individual, not the reporter. Chris Brown article: http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-2/Buffalo-Bills-interview-Ken-Whisenhunt/db1561ca-0e45-4a9e-9dc6-4804395294e8 Whaley inteview Video http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Doug-Whaley-on-Evaluating-the-Team/4cc78b07-97d9-4c11-bace-2b6db7b9c458 Edited January 2, 2013 by TheLynchTrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ 'Em Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Hopefully your not writing legal briefs because that post was almost unreadable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I agree with you SJBF that there probably isn't much consequence to this. It's probably looking for something where there's nothing, which I believe we're all guilty of doing from time to time. I can't speak on the OP's idea that the original story was removed, but I do think its interesting that Chris Brown posted a story an hour ago with a quote attributed to Whaley with "Personally I know him and we'll see what happens. I know he's got a lot of opportunities." The word hopefully has been removed completely, which Whaley clearly said in the interview. I'll probably just chalk this up to a reporter (albeit a paid shill) cleaning up a quote of his coworker. Do most reporters clean up quotes this way? I was under the impression that they usually write what they hear, enter in words using [brackets] for emphasis, and add sic when they need to show the spelling or grammar error is on the individual, not the reporter. Chris Brown article: http://www.buffalobi...c6-4804395294e8 Whaley inteview Video http://www.buffalobi...ce-2b6db7b9c458 So the OP did raise an interesting point, IMO. That "hopefully" was a really bizarre choice of words until you realize where he was going with that sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 I have to say if Whaley has meade these comments “We go way back, we won Super Bowls together so I have high regard for their coaching acumen. Personally, I know those guys and hopefully…we’ll see what happens. I know they’ve got a lot of opportunities, we haven’t decided, we’ve still got to figure out what we’re going to do and after that, I don’t think it’ll make a decision on if they’re going to be our coach, but I can shed some insight on how they performed while I was with them and as people.” These comments are posted on the WGR web site if they are legitimate and prove accurate I have some real issues with his lack of candor. I work in a legal profession and deal with statements all day long, if the Bills end up taking either of these coaches, and if so I'd anticiapte it by weeks end, I have serious issues with Whaleys professionalism.. "hopefully we will see what happens" speaks volumes. Even if he thinks they are the best candiadtes, (which I dont) he should not be tipping his hand. Would any top level executive state/tip his hand and say he was going tp buy a certain stock or company before a contaact or agreement was reached... NO. If either of these guys (Wheissy or his D coordiantor) are hired it shows what bush league Whaley is and what the Bills have to look forward to. What a person say's and doesnt say is huge...."hopefully" so expalin that to me Whaley in objective fashion...i guess your mind i made up....if the hire goes through you and Russ are bush league already tipping your hand like that...prior to an interview etc what a mess if this is misdirection than id say AWESOME job guys, glad to see some savvy occuring at two bills drive! Ridiculous post. You read way too much into what he said. He was just being respectful of some former colleagues. If they do hire one of them it will be after the interview process is complete. I believe they are still early in the process and however it plays out, Whaley's statements were nothing but being polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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