Best Player Available Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Oh so drafting later this past year and costing themselves, say, Cordy Glenn in R2 would have had no discernable effects, right? Oops OK Nix has hit twice in 3 years. I forgot.
Koufax Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Hey, listen chief... I'm always happy to see this team win. I'm glad to see it today. But again, they have a lot more fight now that the playoff chase is lost. Where was the fire when they were still in it? I agree. My main complaint with this team has been the bad play and hopelessly embarrassing stretches (porous defense, disappointing QB play and late picks). This team has lacked the winning competitive fire, and I really would like them to start to learn to play with that (under a new coach) for 16 games X 60 minutes.
You herd it hear last Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 this is the only game i can remember booing a winning effort. aside from spiller, the Bills still suck
NoSaint Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) Can't draft 53. Some of these guys are going to need to learn to be winning football players or we are going to have to wait five years. I would rather have my: 2011 JJ Watt / Robert Quinn 2010 Pierre-Paul / Dez Bryant 2009 Orakpo / Cushing / Freeman 2008 Flacco / CJ2K 2007 Revis / Bowe those types of players are available outside of the top 10 every year. I would be happy to have higher picks, but not at the cost of winning, and know that Maybin over Orakpo is a management/scouting decision, and not an unfortunate result of winning and sliding down the draft order. I agree winning is important but ignoring that its easier to get a qb 5 spots earlier is also being dishonest. Sometimes the best way to learn to win is to get a winner at qb. Play to win, don't be upset if we lose today. Edited December 30, 2012 by NoSaint
Astrobot Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 howard @hsimon62 BTW that whole Brandon met with Jon Gruden thing was apparently legit but some speculation #Bills gathering info about Jay Gruden
RuntheDamnBall Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Can't draft 53. Some of these guys are going to need to learn to be winning football players or we are going to have to wait five years. I would rather have my: 2011 JJ Watt / Robert Quinn 2010 Pierre-Paul / Dez Bryant 2009 Orakpo / Cushing / Freeman 2008 Flacco / CJ2K 2007 Revis / Bowe those types of players are available outside of the top 10 every year. I would be happy to have higher picks, but not at the cost of winning, and know that Maybin over Orakpo is a management/scouting decision, and not an unfortunate result of winning and sliding down the draft order. That's fine but it doesn't change that our #1 need is at the most premium position and every spot dropped lowers the chances of filling that need with a talented player.
Koufax Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Yea, but the further back you go the rougher it gets, and from 11 you CANNOT get to say #2. Kaepernick hasn't done anything, Rodgers got to sit long term, etc... Odds of getting a real deal at the top are much better even if its a bit of dumb luck. I wouldn't think twice if we didnt need a qb specifically. I'm not saying throw the game but its a bit bittersweet to win. I'm one of the ones most in your corner around here really. I agree... if the Jets were to somehow pull it out despite our best efforts, I would optimistically take the draft position with a smile. But I want a team that will play hard every snap regardless, and not pack it in so that their replacements can be drafted higher. I really wish we had won previously and were finding a way to 7-9 today. And if we could have won two other games and been playing for 8-8 I think that would be awesome too.
Best Player Available Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Mario has mailed in his effort the past 2 games. Talk about getting fleeced. Get your last views of Gailey holding a clipboard with a Bills hat on. The era is 5 minutes from ending. YEA!
voodoo poonani Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Who (besides most of you) would spend anytime watching a game when they want their team to lose? Like I said, I'm fine with people wanting the Bills to lose. I don't, but I get it. But to actually watch the game and complain all game long. Don't any of you have anything better to do on a Sunday afternoon? I could be doing a lot of things, but I wouldn't watch a game where I want my team to lose....its silly I myself am doing a puzzle with my gf while her kids play with their Xmas presents. The game is on in the background. I watched every game as well as others, after all i paid for Sunday ticket so it'd be silly not to. We find it funny how terrible both these teams are. Shouldn't people be able to laugh and complain about them? Fan therapy?
Roc Bronson Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Alex Carrington. He should replace Dareus..
Koufax Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 That's fine but it doesn't change that our #1 need is at the most premium position and every spot dropped lowers the chances of filling that need with a talented player. Who are you taking #1? I just don't see the Andrew Luck available this year. Luck and Manning are players who I would lose for. Not sure who the third example is. You want to draft in the Ponder slot instead of the Freeman slot? I like better picks all over the place, but I like winning more. The draft is a crapshoot (where having better positions helps) and we are not historically very good at it. I hope we do awesome wherever we are drafting, and move up if needed. But right now I want to win, and am glad at least 53 people seem to be agreeing with me.
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 howard @hsimon62 BTW that whole Brandon met with Jon Gruden thing was apparently legit but some speculation #Bills gathering info about Jay Gruden why meet with Dad to talk about junior???
NoSaint Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Ugh - 3 tds for Tolbert in Carolina today... I wanted him in our backfield for short yardage. How different our season would be with a few plays inside the 5 or in and 1 situations being converted instead of turnovers. I get trying to have a guy that matches Freddy and spiller but I wanted that bowling ball
Big Gun Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Alex Carrington. He should replace Dareus.. IDK about that but I really like how he has played this year
seq004 Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Mario has mailed in his effort the past 2 games. Talk about getting fleeced. Now there is a situation where a new coach could help stick a charge up his a$$
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 howard @hsimon62 BTW that whole Brandon met with Jon Gruden thing was apparently legit but some speculation #Bills gathering info about Jay Gruden From Howard Simon? And talking to Jon about his brother Jay? Interesting. Alex Carrington. He should replace Dareus.. More likely he should replace Kyle Williams.
Búfalo Blanco Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Carrington is a hell of an athlete... He's starting to look like a bargain of a 3rd rounder.
voodoo poonani Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 The bills-jets aren't even on the nfl mix channel
San Jose Bills Fan Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Ugh - 3 tds for Tolbert in Carolina today... I wanted him in our backfield for short yardage. How different our season would be with a few plays inside the 5 or in and 1 situations being converted instead of turnovers. I get trying to have a guy that matches Freddy and spiller but I wanted that bowling ball You and me both, as we've mentioned numerous times this season. He's a premier short yardage, goal line guy.
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