jahnyc Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Will the Bills be able to attract a quality head coach and assistants? Seems like Turner (Chargers), Reid (Eagles), Shurmur (Browns), and Crennel (Chiefs) are very likely to be fired after the season ends. That is five likely openings if you include Gailey. Mularkey (Jags), Munchak (Titans), and Whisenhunt (Cards) are also at risk of being fired, along with, although less likely, Allen (Raiders), Smith (Bears), and Rivera (Panthers). Many of these potential opportunities are more attractive than the situation with the Bills, either due to ownership, overall stability (including front office), money (i.e., willing to spend money on players/assistant coaches), current talent, or location. At a minimum, I would put San Diego, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Carolina and Chicago in this category. Given the number of possible openings, past history with Wade Phillips and Mularkey, and uncertainty with the GM position and other issues, will the Bills be able to attract a quality head coach? I think one of the keys will be moving very quickly. The Bills will need to fire Gailey immediately, begin the head coach search, and make a hire as soon as possible. This will be key to getting quality head coach and, as importantly, strong assistant coaches. This may mean that the Bills cannot wait to interview assistant coaches with teams that are in the playoffs.
Fan in San Diego Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 It certainly does make it harder to figure if he gets fired or not.
PearlHowardman Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Many of these potential opportunities are more attractive than the situation with the Bills, either due to ownership, overall stability (including front office), money (i.e., willing to spend money on players/assistant coaches), current talent, or location. At a minimum, I would put San Diego, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Carolina and Chicago in this category. We're number 6! What a completely depressing fact.
Fezmid Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Will the Bills be able to attract a quality head coach and assistants? Seems like Turner (Chargers), Reid (Eagles), Shurmur (Browns), and Crennel (Chiefs) are very likely to be fired after the season ends. That is five likely openings if you include Gailey. Mularkey (Jags), Munchak (Titans), and Whisenhunt (Cards) are also at risk of being fired, along with, although less likely, Allen (Raiders), Smith (Bears), and Rivera (Panthers). Many of these potential opportunities are more attractive than the situation with the Bills, ... money (i.e., willing to spend money on players/assistant coaches), ... Yeah, because the Bills would never spend $100M on the top player in free agency.
boyst Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 I hope Mularky gets more chances in Jville. I would not think Cleveland to be that attractive, and I am glad Reid is out in Phili. For both Reid and Phili, this will be good. I never much cared for him, getting where he was on coattails and good coordinators. The only coach out there that I can be happy about us getting is Arians. He is a motivated guy, paid his dues, learned and seems fine in a role getting the best around him. If we can bring in a top D coordinator I think Arians would flourish here.
BobChalmers Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Yeah, because the Bills would never spend $100M on the top player in free agency. Seriously - It's like a mental illness some Bills fans have that forces them to believe the team won't spend money when the evidence has been there that they often (albeit not always) will.
Rob's House Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) Seems like Turner (Chargers), Reid (Eagles), Shurmur (Browns), and Crennel (Chiefs) are very likely to be fired after the season ends. That is five likely openings if you include Gailey. Mularkey (Jags), Munchak (Titans), and Whisenhunt (Cards) are also at risk of being fired, along with, although less likely, Allen (Raiders), Smith (Bears), and Rivera (Panthers). Depending on what you're looking for as a coach, the Bills could be one of (if not the) most desirable destinations of all of these. Chargers - Nice weather, but it's a team in decline with high expectations due to relatively consistent success over the last decade and a big ? as to the QB situation and FO. Unless you believe in Rivers I think this is a poor option. Chiefs - This may be the most attractive landing spot of all. Small market, but the team has a lot of talent that's being misused. Plus, coming off a disasterous season, getting to .500 would be considered a great success. Like Buffalo, they need a QB, but will have a high pick to take one with and it's clear they'll be moving on at that position. Jags - Nice weather, but no visibility, no QB, soft D, and your only star is a RB who's about to get old. Eagles - This could be great or terrible depending on the coach. In Philly you're going to have high expectations and a lot of talent out the gate. But, the QB situation is questionalbe (is Foles the guy?), no O-line to protect whatever QB you go with, a lot of overpaid under-performing talent (especially on D), and a fickle fan base. But a strong organization and big market team probably represents a lot of coach's dream job. Titans - Small market, no QB, no real star power, no D, would have lost to the Bills if Locker played. Browns - The Browns have been as consistently bad as the Bills, save 1 season. Nice young QB/RB combo, but is this Drew Brees/LT or Trent Edwards/Marshawn Lynch? On the plus side, they play hard, keep it close, and could only be a few pieces away from being contenders. Gutting the FO isn't necessarily a good thing; will probably go to someone who has a relationship with the new regime. Cards - Too many missing pieces here. There's a lot of talent on D but the offense is riddled with holes. No real RB, QB situation similar to Buffalo, horrible O-line. The only thing they have on that side of the ball is a great WR who will be 30 next season. Not to mention it's a team that has sucked for generations, save Kurt Warner's stint with the team. Buffalo - Sure, the city is a **** hole and the fans are a bunch of whiny insufferable yankees and the FO has a ****ty track record, but there's a lot here to attract a coach. Solid O-line, dynamic young RB, Lot's of talent on D (a LB away from being solid), and a high pick with which to choose your QB of the future (because unlike a lot of teams with QB issues, there's no question that you're moving on). Plus, after 13 years of no playoffs, expectations are low and success will make you a legend. Edited December 30, 2012 by Rob's House
RuntheDamnBall Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 I would take Wisenhunt in a heartbeat, provided he has something to work with at QB.
nucci Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 I would take Wisenhunt in a heartbeat, provided he has something to work with at QB. They are 1-10 after a 4-0 start yet you want him as coach and Gailey fired? How is he better than what we have?
2003Contenders Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 Honestly, I think the Bills' job would be VERY attractive. The team has more talent than any of the others on the list, and a competent coach would have to look at the situation and believe that they can rectify the losing -- with the roster on hand. Moreover, Byrd and Levitre are the only noteworthy free agents. The new coach will also be able to acquire his own QB as well, since the front office seems willing to finally part with Fitz.
RuntheDamnBall Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 They are 1-10 after a 4-0 start yet you want him as coach and Gailey fired? How is he better than what we have? Uh, the super bowl appearance might have something to do with my opinion, and the worse-than-Fitz QB situation might have something to do with this year. But carry on with the inquisition.
You herd it hear last Posted December 30, 2012 Posted December 30, 2012 (edited) In the glory years we had 3 players simultaneously playing the best at their positions, of any players in the league. Two of those, Bruce and Tasker wind up being all-century players. The other, Thurman (and possibly the Kelly-Reed combo) was also at his production apex. My point is, until we see talent that approaches this, it will be difficult to attract a decent coach. What we have collected is apparently a bunch of players that always seem to be snubbed in pro-bowl voting. What does that really tell you? It tells me that they haven't played well enough to even knock the current 'big name' off the hill, even though that 'big' has underperformed during the year. In fact, they're probably not even in the conversation because of the current state and reputation of the franchise. And my guess would be that any of the top tier HC candidates would probably go to where the best chance of getting excellent QB play, or one with the best chance of bringing the next QB superstar into the league. Think we'll be havin' a happier new year in 2013? I dunno either. Edited December 30, 2012 by madtowntobuffalo
jahnyc Posted December 30, 2012 Author Posted December 30, 2012 If the last time the Bills hired a head coach is any indication, then one would have to conclude that the opportunity with the Bills is not as attractive as other potential opportunities. Seems like we are hearing all kinds of interest in San Diego from Reid, that Saban would consider Cleveland only (and McDaniels, originally from Ohio, may have interest as well), and that Kelly may consider the Eagles. Have heard nothing about potential head coaches having interest in Buffalo (and to be fair, maybe we wouldn't). Is the situation with the Bills stable? Not sure about ownership, and even if Nix is retained, would a potential head coach feel comfortable that he or Nix would survive another poor year (particularly if a new GM is brought in the following year)? Throw in our lack of a quality QB, and maybe Buffalo is not all that attractive at this time. Yes, the Bills did spend a lot on Williams, but do not forget that RW will be paying Gailey and his assistant coaches for at least next year potentially if they are let go.
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