Chris in Syracuse Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 It pains me to say this but Vick is the best vet available. What if Flynn becomes available. I would take Flynn over Vick. By Vick is the best pick do you mean choice or interception. Vick throws a lot of picks.
Saint Doug Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 What if Flynn becomes available. I would take Flynn over Vick. By Vick is the best pick do you mean choice or interception. Vick throws a lot of picks. Don't forget the fumbling problem too.
Mr. WEO Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I think he has some gas left in the tank. No one could stay healthy or not produce turnovers with that god-awful piece of **** o-line Ben Roesthlisberger Not saying I would want Vick, but if him and Fitz were the only two options left, give Vick a blue jersey. He still can throw the long ball better with him arm in a cast then Fitz ever could. The result is no better....or worse. what is this 3 win nonsense? the qb born without and arm (fitz) is gonna win more games then the mobile qb with an arm? **who has been to playoffs **who has been a pro bowler blind hate for vick which i get but i disagree.............Vick hasn't had an OL in years much like Cutler. Vick last won a playof game 9 years ago. He's played in one more playoff game than Fitz since 2006. His past two seasons have disastrous. You say he has a big arm and is mobile, yet you say he has suffered from a bad o-line. A guy that mobile showed have much better production than 23 TDs over the past 2 seasons. Plus he's likely the least accurate passer over the past 3 years (his whole career, actually). Throw in that his is too small and fragile to play in today's NFL and it looks like your blind hate for Fitz has forced you to back a "dog" like Vick.
Maury Ballstein Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) Ben Roesthlisberger The result is no better....or worse. Vick last won a playof game 9 years ago. He's played in one more playoff game than Fitz since 2006. His past two seasons have disastrous. You say he has a big arm and is mobile, yet you say he has suffered from a bad o-line. A guy that mobile showed have much better production than 23 TDs over the past 2 seasons. Plus he's likely the least accurate passer over the past 3 years (his whole career, actually). Throw in that his is too small and fragile to play in today's NFL and it looks like your blind hate for Fitz has forced you to back a "dog" like Vick. what is this blind hate you speak of? are you freaking kidding me? my eyes are wide open when i watch fitz suck, theres no blindness to it. i apologize for pointing out the obvious "Fitz sucks" angle that 90% of bills fans have. :oops: guess i should apologize for wanting a half decent qb on the team i enjoy supporting. check your blind hate for Vick sir.........all of my hate is justified.......20/20 vision for me. big ben's been amazing this year with no OL huh WEO? injured and out of the playoffs just like the Vickster. in conclusion....vick over fitz for sure .......do I want Vick if Geno or someone better is an option?? no way jose. Edited December 28, 2012 by Ryan L Billz
Mr. WEO Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 what is this blind hate you speak of? are you freaking kidding me? my eyes are wide open when i watch fitz suck, theres no blindness to it. i apologize for pointing out the obvious "Fitz sucks" angle that 90% of bills fans have. :oops: guess i should apologize for wanting a half decent qb on the team i enjoy supporting. check your blind hate for Vick sir.........all of my hate is justified.......20/20 vision for me. big ben's been amazing this year with no OL huh WEO? injured and out of the playoffs just like the Vickster. in conclusion....vick over fitz for sure .......do I want Vick if Geno or someone better is an option no way jose. I would like a great QB also--or even a half decent one, which is why I wouldn't have Vick. And Big Ben has spent much of his career behind bad o-lines. Did you really not know that?
Maury Ballstein Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 (edited) I would like a great QB also--or even a half decent one, which is why I wouldn't have Vick. And Big Ben has spent much of his career behind bad o-lines. Did you really not know that? I know all when it pertains to the nfl. Bens OL got him crushed this year hence no playoffs in Pittsburgh. So because big bens a warrior who gets crushed all qb's should do the same ? I'm not sure where this is going. Bad OL = death Vick had no shot this year, not saying he's great or will be the quick fix but I wouldn't be surprised by an improved Vick on his new team whoever that may be next year. Edited December 28, 2012 by Ryan L Billz
josephfrei Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Never really been sold on this idea ..... I think i like taking a shot with Kirk Cousins even with his limited play or even Mat Flyn w/ his limited play and contract rather than going through the whole process w/ vick ....guess it's just a feeling, I've never been overly impressed w/ Vick AND all that has & still might come w/ him. IN any event, would still need to find a decent younger/ long-Trm prospect at QB = this is ISSUE #1 !!
CowgirlsFan Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Please...no!! He is always hurt! Bills need a quarterback that can play the whole season!
Mr. WEO Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I know all when it pertains to the nfl. Bens OL got him crushed this year hence no playoffs in Pittsburgh. So because big bens a warrior who gets crushed all qb's should do the same ? I'm not sure where this is going. Bad OL = death Vick had no shot this year, not saying he's great or will be the quick fix but I wouldn't be surprised by an improved Vick on his new team whoever that may be next year. Big Ben is not nearly as immobile as Vick, yet he has made a career playing under siege with poor protection. Why hasn't Vick been able to do this or better? I'll tell you why, it's because he's too dumb to play the position. He has no idea what to do when he can't find his primary receiver--he just runs away and gets run down anyway.
Rob T from OP Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Vick NO Way!!!! He is damaged goods. Buffalo fans are so short sighted!!!! Trade for Alex Smith and draft a QB. Let the rookie develop ....Fans need to stop with the Tebow and Vick thing...It bad enough this coaching staff dumpster dives now the fans are doing it as well!!!
grog Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 If you are trying to figure out how to sell this product as a front office type, I don't see how Vick helps with that daunting endeavor. I can at least cheer for Shitzy, can't do it for Vick, he is not an upgrade at the position and a downgrade in character.
Maury Ballstein Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Big bens awesome, a real warrior who takes an unfair beating year after year due to OL play. There's not that many "big bens" in the world though, most qb's w crappy OLs are crappy as well. Vicks been subpar lately I understand I can't make a strong point for him. I won't cry if we do give him a look though Nothing could be worse that the last 5 years
1billsfan Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Running QBs have a shorter shelf life than the classic pocket passers. McNabb's game broke down right at the age that Vick is now, 32. Vick would be a temporary patch fix, till he either got hurt or a rookie QB was ready to play.
filthymcnasty08 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Vick or no Vick, Fitz is awful and he cannot be back on this team. This entire board would be best to move on from Fitz in all future discussions.
FanSince1960 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 PLEASE no more retreads. No reason to waste money on this guy. Find a way to trade up and draft a future winner.
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