Fitz/Gailey are the worse than Jauron/Lossman

[Dibs]

It should be. Those jauron squads, even in victory, were boring to watch and offered no hope for the future.

 

I understand what you are saying....it's one of the reasons I am very happy we have Spiller. Give him the ball a little more & at least if we lose we have something exciting to watch while we are losing.

[Turbosrrgood]

As the HC of buffalo Jauron led the bills to 3 straight 7-9 seaons and then was fired midway through a 3-6 season. this leaves him at a 42% win percentage (24-33) . crappy right? well no. gailey as HC is currently 15-33, thats a 32% win percentage. Absolute poop. Both coaches had Terrible QBs but if numbers tell us true Chan and Fitz are 10% worse than Jauron and J.P. . On the flip side. gailey coached the Birmingham FIre to two consectuive playoff runs in the World League of American Football.

 

By record yes...

 

However there was no more painful team to watch than the Jauron Losman/Edwards teams in my mind...

 

Losman would take sack after sack, the offense was far more pathetic than they are now. Jauron would punt from the 25 yard line, and never attempt a 4th down conversion, even if the game was on the line...

 

Let's just say that the Bills once again have coaching/QB issues, as always...

Edited December 28, 2012 by Turbosrrgood

[BuffBill]

I understand what you are saying....it's one of the reasons I am very happy we have Spiller. Give him the ball a little more & at least if we lose we have something exciting to watch while we are losing.

Not sure if you are old enough to remember, but that would be kinda like the majority of the teams that O.J. was on with the exception of about two seasons.

[Bob in STL]

The talent Gailey had to work with is really not much better than Jauron's. In fact our best players - Wood, Levitre, Stevie Johnson, Jarius Bryd, Kyle Williams and Freddy Jackson where drafted before Nix took over. Nix is a bigger problem than Gailey IMO.

 

Nix found Urbik, Pears, and Chandler - for that I think he did a nice job. Unfortunatle his draft have been sketchy. His first draft class (Spiller, Troup, and Carrington) got them off to a bad start. As good as Spiller is he was not a player we really needed at the time. He blossomed into a star but we have a coach that uses him sparingly.

 

Gailey's biggest problem is his lack of knowledge of defense and his real-time game management. He has hired two bad DC's in a row and does not seem to care about the defense at all. The Bills have spent a lot of picks on defense with almost nothing to show for it.

 

I don't care if Gailey is better than Jauron or not. They both were poor NFL head coaches. I just want Nix and Gailey to go away. Nix has made many tactical errors and seems to operate without a plan. Slogans are not plans.

 

Three years is enough time to see they are not winners and not in touch. Nix did not draft a QB in his tenure (that wasted 7th round pick aside) and the rest of the league is doing the just the opposite. This just in --- College Football is preparing todays young QBs to step in now more than ever.

Edited December 28, 2012 by Bob in STL

[34-78-83]

I am sorry, but this is ridiculous. the jauron squads were horrendous on offense. For example, we used to have debates on here wondering whether there were WR's even going out for passes because the QB's wouldn't throw to the WRs.

 

You can rip fitz all you want, but outside of one Bledsoe season, he's been the most exciting QB we have had since flutie.

Truth!

 

And that comes with me (and I'm sure you as well) realizing that Fitz is not the answer

[apuszczalowski]

The talent Gailey had to work with is really not much better than Jauron's. In fact our best players - Wood, Levitre, Stevie Johnson, Jarius Bryd, Kyle Williams and Freddy Jackson where drafted before Nix took over. Nix is a bigger problem than Gailey IMO.

 

Nix found Urbik, Pears, and Chandler - for that I think he did a nice job. Unfortunatle his draft have been sketchy. His first draft class (Spiller, Troup, and Carrington) got them off to a bad start. As good as Spiller is he was not a player we really needed at the time. He blossomed into a star but we have a coach that uses him sparingly.

 

Gailey's biggest problem is his lack of knowledge of defense and his real-time game management. He has hired two bad DC's in a row and does not seem to care about the defense at all. The Bills have spent a lot of picks on defense with almost nothing to show for it.

 

I don't care if Gailey is better than Jauron or not. They both were poor NFL head coaches. I just want Nix and Gailey to go away. Nix has made many tactical errors and seems to operate without a plan. Slogans are not plans.

 

Three years is enough time to see they are not winners and not in touch. Nix did not draft a QB in his tenure (that wasted 7th round pick aside) and the rest of the league is doing the just the opposite. This just in --- College Football is preparing todays young QBs to step in now more than ever.

Wrong, He has a plan and has been sticking to it, its just one that isn't what the fans want/think he should be doing, and hasn't resulted in success as quickly as the fans wanted it.

 

his plan all along has been to build a young team through the draft, he has said before to that he does not believe in bringing in a QB until the rest of the team is pretty much in place. They found their place holder (who at one point actually looked like an answer at QB) in Fitz and are now going after their QB.

 

College football might be preparing these QBs to step in right away more now, but how many come in, impress at first and fizzle out?

[thewildrabbit]

The talent Gailey had to work with is really not much better than Jauron's. In fact our best players - Wood, Levitre, Stevie Johnson, Jarius Bryd, Kyle Williams and Freddy Jackson where drafted before Nix took over. Nix is a bigger problem than Gailey IMO.

 

Nix found Urbik, Pears, and Chandler - for that I think he did a nice job. Unfortunatle his draft have been sketchy. His first draft class (Spiller, Troup, and Carrington) got them off to a bad start. As good as Spiller is he was not a player we really needed at the time. He blossomed into a star but we have a coach that uses him sparingly.

 

Gailey's biggest problem is his lack of knowledge of defense and his real-time game management. He has hired two bad DC's in a row and does not seem to care about the defense at all. The Bills have spent a lot of picks on defense with almost nothing to show for it.

 

I don't care if Gailey is better than Jauron or not. They both were poor NFL head coaches. I just want Nix and Gailey to go away. Nix has made many tactical errors and seems to operate without a plan. Slogans are not plans.

 

Three years is enough time to see they are not winners and not in touch. Nix did not draft a QB in his tenure (that wasted 7th round pick aside) and the rest of the league is doing the just the opposite. This just in --- College Football is preparing todays young QBs to step in now more than ever.

cheers

 

Buddy Nix was supposed to build another 2005 Charger team in Buffalo, instead they got the 2005 Detroit Lions with a clueless man in charge. Marv Levy was a better GM.

[GibranHamdansGhost]

Jauron could at least win football games. Bills fans have gone into every game during the Chan Gailey regime expecting the team to lose. Ralph didn't spend any money when J.P. and Dick Jauron were here. The only free agents they signed were Derrick Dockery and Langston Walker to big money.

[BEAST MODE BABY!]

I personally think Mike Mularkey is the only decent head coach we've had in this era of playoffless...ness.

 

I guess you're forgetting Meathead's proclivity for play action passes to the fullback on the 1 yard line. Over and over and over again. Oh, how time erases all bad memories for some.

[Bob in STL]

Wrong, He has a plan and has been sticking to it, its just one that isn't what the fans want/think he should be doing, and hasn't resulted in success as quickly as the fans wanted it.

 

his plan all along has been to build a young team through the draft, he has said before to that he does not believe in bringing in a QB until the rest of the team is pretty much in place. They found their place holder (who at one point actually looked like an answer at QB) in Fitz and are now going after their QB.

 

College football might be preparing these QBs to step in right away more now, but how many come in, impress at first and fizzle out?

 

Thanks for explaining his plan. How are you enjoying Thigpen as your backup? How about the signing of a free agent QB who could not learn the plays and then trading a draft pick for another player that can't seem to learn them either?

 

I call his QB moves reactionary and I fail to see the plan. I would be much more comfortable with Dalton, or Kaepernick, or Wilson on the roster than the bums we have right now. Even if they impress early and then flame out (ala Trent Edwards). The feeling I have with the Fitz/Thigpen/Tevaris trio is one of hopelessness.

[Ray]

As bad as both of them are, Dick & Trentative were by far worse. The games during the Jauron era were unwatchable. Neither the offense or the defense ever featured anything exciting or inspiring. Even the wins during that regime were ugly. That Buffalo - Cleveland 6-3 loss was one of the worst games I have ever watched in the history of watching sporting events. "IT'S HARD TO WIN IN THIS LEAGUE..." -- over and over, week after week. That was worse. Gailey is a bumbling idiot but Jauron was the corpse. And Fitz is a solid NFL backup. Edwards is an NFL third stringer...

Agree 100%. That offense was horrendous. Ironically the defense was average. If we had even an average 15th ranked defense the past two years we likely win at least 6 or more games. Fitz has a lot of flaws but the guy has put up a lot of points and TDs especially compared to the prior ten years. This is by far the best offense we've had since the first 8 games of Bledsoe and then he became a disaster.

Ironically Jauron being a DC and Gailey an OC would have provided a better balanced team. Gailey's defenses will be the 2nd,3rd and 4th worst defenses in the team's history. Hard to win with those numbers.

[Chris in Syracuse]

The coach with the best qb had the best record. We will never be good until we get a good qb.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I understand what you are saying....it's one of the reasons I am very happy we have Spiller. Give him the ball a little more & at least if we lose we have something exciting to watch while we are losing.

 

It's sad, but true. The Bills cannot both win and entertain us, so just a little entertainment gives us something to cheer about.

 

It used to absolutely kill me when Edwards was QB and could barely crack 100 yards passing, with almost no passes thrown to our receivers. At least now we have Spiller, Stevie... and Fitz--for all his many, many shortcomings--at least throws the ball more than 5 yards and doesn't take sacks every other play.

[ThrowingFitz]

I'll always appreciate what fitz did coming into the disaster that has been the bills. That alone makes me a fan. Gailey on the other hand... I can see his rational when he decides to not go for the two point conversion or punt from inside the thirty-five. The problem is he is playing not to loose. This season broke his will to win... just like Jauron and Lossman played. There is a common theme here that seems to be imposing its will on people that otherwise would have a desire to win. Some know him has Ralph, others refer to him as Darth Vader after the dark side twisted his spirit.

[BuffaloFan68]

We spend 3 years bringing in talent & have one of the weekest schedules in a decade and can't even get to 8 -8! Completley unacceptable! NEXT