PearlHowardman Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 (edited) Both the middle school and high school that my kids attended (in a nice low crime Chicago suburb) have had armed police officers in the schools every day for more than a decade. Anyone else out there have armed police in their schools? New York City has something like 350 NYPD in their public schools. Several schools around here in Syracuse have armed guards. In 2000 former President Bill Clinton started the "COPS In School" program, bring in police to schools across the country. But if the NRA proposes the same thing and the Left goes crazy! Edited December 25, 2012 by PearlHowardman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 No, what I am comparing is the media coverage and general outrage from the people here is the US pales in comparison to the 26 people killed in Newtown. Tragedy yes, but we are just a small part of this world. Here is one news story with 92 people killed, 32 children from this year and this never made the headline not the front page news. Guns are not the issue and never will be. People are the issue. Those that want to kill will kill regardless of the mechanism to do so. And just as guilty are people like you who think it's any more or less tragc to have something like this happen in your backyard but could give a **** about the people in Syria. Let me ask, did you hear about the person who died the other day in that huge collision in Iowa (I believe) when about 30 cars crashed into each other? Bet you did. Did you know 14 people were killed yesterday in Mozambique in a bus accident? Probably not. You so want to blame the republicans and the NRA for everything. DId you know that Roosevelt wouldn't allow numerous Jewish people into this country prior to WWII and had the ships they were on escorted back to Germany, where most were then imprisoned and killed during the holocaust? Everyone has blood on their hands. My point is, people die. People want to kill other people. You do what you can. But when people want to kill people, they will find a way. Whether it be guns, bombs, knives, Jimmy Jones Juice, bats. My other point is why not do something about it. Protect the children here and there by putting armed guards in the school. Police officers make half of what teachers do. Get rid of one home econ class or one shop class. Hire a couple of county police officers to be resource officers in the schools. Let people buy weapons to protect themselves. Instead the talk is to disarm everyone. All that does it make us easy prey. Your point has absolutely zero merit. First, the media HAS covered the civil war in Syria. Even if they didn't, comparing a nation embroiled in a brutal and bloody civil war has absolutely NOTHING to do with the issue at hand. It's a weak argument for weak minded people. Step your game up. And no one is talking about disarming everyone or repealing the second amendment. Not one. New York City has something like 350 NYPD in their public schools. Several schools around here in Syracuse have armed guards. In 2000 former President Bill Clinton started the "COPS In School" program, bring in police to schools across the country. But if the NRA proposes the same thing and the Left goes crazy! That's not why PEOPLE, not the left, went crazy. The reason for the outrage is that the NRA refuses to acknowledge the role that access to these weapons played in the tragedy and instead blamed everything else. What the NRA made clear is they don't care about anything but their own bottom line. They care more about money than they do about the people they are supposed to represent. It's not one thing. It's many. Simplifying it for exclusion purposes or political ones is as cowardly as the criminals who continue to commit these slaughters of innocents. It's time for the lobbyists to STOP dictating policy to the country and time for the weak minded fools like yourself (this based on your long and extensive posting history of absolute ignorance and drivel) to stop hiding behind a LOBBY group that has nothing to do with the second amendment you profess to love. This isn't about the second amendment. No one is arguing to repeal the second amendment. Educate yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Your point has absolutely zero merit. First, the media HAS covered the civil war in Syria. Even if they didn't, comparing a nation embroiled in a brutal and bloody civil war has absolutely NOTHING to do with the issue at hand. It's a weak argument for weak minded people. Step your game up. And no one is talking about disarming everyone or repealing the second amendment. Not one. That's not why PEOPLE, not the left, went crazy. The reason for the outrage is that the NRA refuses to acknowledge the role that access to these weapons played in the tragedy and instead blamed everything else. What the NRA made clear is they don't care about anything but their own bottom line. They care more about money than they do about the people they are supposed to represent. It's not one thing. It's many. Simplifying it for exclusion purposes or political ones is as cowardly as the criminals who continue to commit these slaughters of innocents. It's time for the lobbyists to STOP dictating policy to the country and time for the weak minded fools like yourself (this based on your long and extensive posting history of absolute ignorance and drivel) to stop hiding behind a LOBBY group that has nothing to do with the second amendment you profess to love. This isn't about the second amendment. No one is arguing to repeal the second amendment. Educate yourself. This is obviously media driven. You happen to agree with the media. I don't personally care whether or not they limit magazines to 10 or 30 cartridges. The only difference that makes is in the perception of doing something. The media keeps repeating over and over that they don't want to repeal the second amendment at the same time they are comparing our weapon policy with that of other countries. The NRA doesn't want to give an inch because they see a media driven slippery slope. If you have a coherent weapons policy that won't infringe upon reasonable gun rights while reducing gun induced violence, state it or quit going apeschit over this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 This isn't about the second amendment. No one is arguing to repeal the second amendment. Educate yourself. No, it's death by 1000 cuts as anyone who has followed the history of it already knows. You educate YOURSELF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 That's not why PEOPLE, not the left, went crazy. The reason for the outrage is that the NRA refuses to acknowledge the role that access to these weapons played in the tragedy and instead blamed everything else. What the NRA made clear is they don't care about anything but their own bottom line. You're an idiot if you care about what the NRA thinks or does. It's what President Obama does, or in this case, doesn't do that matters. And he punted the problem to Joe Biden. The NRA dictating policy just proves how incompetent and useless elected Democrats in this country are. The overwhelming majority of murders in the US occur in urban areas. Moreover, the opportunity for an effective gun control policy passed us by about 40 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The overwhelming majority of murders in the US occur in urban areas. Urban areas that are largely democrat controlled and have strict gun laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 Urban areas that are largely democrat controlled and have strict gun laws. Those laws were passed by the white man to keep the black man down. No way they enforce them. Why can the white man in the rural areas have guns but we have these discrimitory laws to prevent the black man from having guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Those laws were passed by the Democratic white man to keep the black man down. No way they enforce them. Why can the white man in the rural areas have guns but we have these discrimitory laws to prevent the black man from having guns? fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/12/26/1-dead-13-wounded-in-christmas-eve-christmas-shootings/ CHICAGO (STMW) – One person was killed and 13 wounded in gun violence over the Christmas holiday, including an 11-year-old boy grazed by a bullet and a man who was shot to death during a dispute in the Englewood neighborhood. Joshua Davis, 18, was shot to death in the 2000 block of W. 69th Street — a few blocks from his home — after an altercation with several males on a CTA bus, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office. The group followed Davis off the bus when one of the males pulled out a handgun and shot Davis several times in the torso and once in the ear about 11:30 p.m. Tuesday, authorities said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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