Average of 85 gun deaths each day in US

[RkFast]

-- Mayan Palace Theater, San Antonio, Texas, this week: Jesus Manuel Garcia shoots at a movie theater, a police car and bystanders from the nearby China Garden restaurant; as he enters the movie theater, guns blazing, an armed off-duty cop shoots Garcia four times, stopping the attack. Total dead: Zero.

 

-- Winnemucca, Nev., 2008: Ernesto Villagomez opens fire in a crowded restaurant; concealed carry permit-holder shoots him dead. Total dead: Two. (I'm excluding the shooters' deaths in these examples.)

 

-- Appalachian School of Law, 2002: Crazed immigrant shoots the dean and a professor, then begins shooting students; as he goes for more ammunition, two armed students point their guns at him, allowing a third to tackle him. Total dead: Three.

 

-- Santee, Calif., 2001: Student begins shooting his classmates -- as well as the "trained campus supervisor"; an off-duty cop who happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day points his gun at the shooter, holding him until more police arrive. Total dead: Two.

 

-- Pearl High School, Mississippi, 1997: After shooting several people at his high school, student heads for the junior high school; assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieves a .45 pistol from his car and points it at the gunman's head, ending the murder spree. Total dead: Two.

 

-- Edinboro, Pa., 1998: A student shoots up a junior high school dance being held at a restaurant; restaurant owner pulls out his shotgun and stops the gunman. Total dead: One.

[VABills]

The biggest crock of crap that keeps getting repeated is that the killer would have just used something else if not for guns. The slaughter at SH was not premeditated. It stemmed from an argument he had with his mother. If not for legal guns in the household he may beaten or stabbed her death. He goes to school with a knife and at most kills one or two people, good chance none. Because of gun availability, A spur of the moment rage was turned into a mass slaughter where 26 innocents died at an elementary school, 20 of which were small children. And you can take that to the bank.

 

Let me ask, a guy walks into a kindergarten class with a couple of knives. Locks the door and kills the teacher first. Which 5 year old is going to stop him from stabbing all of them?

 

You're an idiot.

[truth on hold]

 

 

Let me ask, a guy walks into a kindergarten class with a couple of knives. Locks the door and kills the teacher first. Which 5 year old is going to stop him from stabbing all of them?

 

You're an idiot.

Where are all the examples of the knife wielding madman slaughtering 26 innocents in an elementary school?

[VABills]

Nice. So military personnel aren't allowed firearms on base, but civilians can own military grade semi-automatic rifles. Unreal

 

Actually it's because of a stupid federal law that no one is allowed to carry a weapon on a Federal Installation without official reason. Since your average grunt doesn't understand laws, and aren't trained to, and this little thing called posse comitatus, you can't have them.

 

Where are all the examples of the knife wielding madman slaughtering 26 innocents in an elementary school?

http://usatoday30.us...06-07-japan.htm

 

http://www.msnbc.msn...ls-philippines/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/14/china-school-stabbings/1770395/

Edited December 24, 2012 by VABills

[Alaska Darin]

The biggest crock of crap that keeps getting repeated is that the killer would have just used something else if not for guns. The slaughter at SH was not premeditated.

Link?

[truth on hold]

 

 

Actually it's because of a stupid federal law that no one is allowed to carry a weapon on a Federal Installation without official reason. Since your average grunt doesn't understand laws, and aren't trained to, and this little thing called posse comitatus, you can't have them.

 

 

http://usatoday30.us...06-07-japan.htm

 

http://www.msnbc.msn...ls-philippines/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/12/14/china-school-stabbings/1770395/

First link is from 11 years ago and 8 were killed ... less than a 3rd the tally of SH. The second one wasn't a school at all so its not relevant. The last one is the most comparable being recent and a school .... Of the 22 stabbed, there were zero fatalities.

[VABills]

First link is from 11 years ago and 8 were killed ... less than a 3rd the tally of SH. The second one wasn't a school at all so its not relevant. The last one is the most comparable being recent and a school .... Of the 22 stabbed, there were zero fatalities.

 

Like I said you're an idiot.

[Nanker]

I wouldn't say he's an idiot. He's just passionate for peace, and I don't blame him.

 

AD had the right approach for people who don't like to hear about violence - turn off your TV, because that's about the only place where you're exposed to it.

For decades the liberals have been telling the rest of America, "If you don't want to watch it - turn the channel or turn off your TV," when it came to violence over the airwaves.

Well, that's the best advice I can think of for someone who doesn't want to be put into a imbalanced glandular emotional sweat by the media's incessant opportunistic coverage of the actions of a mentally imbalanced individual. Sorry media, the NRA did not did those babies.

[3rdnlng]

First link is from 11 years ago and 8 were killed ... less than a 3rd the tally of SH. The second one wasn't a school at all so its not relevant. The last one is the most comparable being recent and a school .... Of the 22 stabbed, there were zero fatalities.

 

 

Since you post schit like the following it is pretty hard to believe anything that you post:

 

 

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Posted Yesterday, 05:23 PM

 

Doc, on 23 December 2012 - 03:56 PM, said:

 

 

So the issue is limiting the damage, not preventing it? Armed guards would do that.

So the answer is always more guns not less? And armed guards are wholly trustworthy too right? Just ask the families of the 13 dead soldiers gunned down by a guard at fort hood

 

Edited by Joe_the_6_pack, Yesterday, 05:23 PM.

[VABills]

First link is from 11 years ago and 8 were killed ... less than a 3rd the tally of SH. The second one wasn't a school at all so its not relevant. The last one is the most comparable being recent and a school .... Of the 22 stabbed, there were zero fatalities.

What about the 19 children killed in Oklahoma City.

 

http://oklahomacitybombing.com/oklahoma-city-bombing-children.html

 

That wasn't a gun. In fact that was just some garden variety fertlizer. Let's ban that too. Farmer don't need fertalizer because it can be used for bad. And the homeowner with their gardens don't need it. I don't understand with all the violence perpetuated by fertalizer does it need to exist.

[3rdnlng]

David Gregory---do as I say not as I do:

 

 

 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/gregory-mocks-lapierre-proposing-armed-guards-sends-kids-high-security-school_691057.html

 

 

 

David Gregory mocked the NRA's Wayne LaPierre for proposing that armed guards be at every school in America. But the NBC host seems to have no problem with armed guards protecting his kids everyday where they attend school in Washington, D.C.

"You proposed armed guards in school. We'll talk about that in some detail in a moment. You confronted the news media. You blamed Hollywood and the gaming industry. But never once did you concede that guns could actually be part of the problem. Is that a meaningful contribution, Mr. LaPierre, or a dodge?," asked Gregory.

Later the host suggested that guns don't prevent violence in schools (he cited the mass shootings at Columbine and Virginia Tech). "But you would concede that, as good as an idea as you think this is, it may not work. Because there have been cases where armed guards have not prevented this kind of massacre, this kind of carnage. I want you would concede that point, wouldn't you?," Gregory pleaded.

The NBC host would go on the rest of the segment to suggest that armed guards might not be effective in preventing mass murders at school. Which is perhaps an interesting theoretical argument.

But when it comes to Gregory's own kids, however, they are secured every school day by armed guards.

[birdog1960]

What about the 19 children killed in Oklahoma City.

 

http://oklahomacityb...g-children.html

 

That wasn't a gun. In fact that was just some garden variety fertlizer. Let's ban that too. Farmer don't need fertalizer because it can be used for bad. And the homeowner with their gardens don't need it. I don't understand with all the violence perpetuated by fertalizer does it need to exist.

so are you against the gov't monitoring for large, suspicious sales of fertilizer and other suspicious materials? or does that infringe too much on your personal rights? where is your balance point for the collective good outweighing the individuals rights?

[Nanker]

Farmers shouldn't have access to dynamite either.

[birdog1960]

and are the armed school guards meant to be carrying rifles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_vest? cuz the future killers likely will. who is at more risk for their body armor to fail? the bad guys or the good guys?

[VABills]

so are you against the gov't monitoring for large, suspicious sales of fertilizer and other suspicious materials? or does that infringe too much on your personal rights? where is your balance point for the collective good outweighing the individuals rights?

Define suspicious.

[Magox]

Typical... Most people entrenched in their partisan views..... The reality is there is no silver bullet solution or for that matter, multipile solutions that will eliminate the risk of psychos offing innocent people.

[Nanker]

Well, Gannett's taking matters in their own hands.

So, now that they've published an interactive map of all legal gun owners in Rockland and Westchester counties - will those homes be more or less likely to be targeted by burglars who have more knowledge now - thanks to the fine journalists at Gannett - where they can steal guns from?

[VABills]

Well, Gannett's taking matters in their own hands.

So, now that they've published an interactive map of all legal gun owners in Rockland and Westchester counties - will those homes be more or less likely to be targeted by burglars who have more knowledge now - thanks to the fine journalists at Gannett - where they can steal guns from?

 

 

Been doing that down here in Virginia for a while. Several of the newspaper publish everyone who gets a concealed weapons permit.

 

And if we ever do have a foreign enemy come to our shows we just told them who to target first.

[Gene Frenkle]

 

 

 

Been doing that down here in Virginia for a while. Several of the newspaper publish everyone who gets a concealed weapons permit.

 

And if we ever do have a foreign enemy come to our shows we just told them who to target first.

How !@#$ing paranoid are you people? The Russians will not be parachuting in to invade our high schools anytime soon. The British are not coming. Jesus

[meazza]

How !@#$ing paranoid are you people? The Russians will not be parachuting in to invade our high schools anytime soon. The British are not coming. Jesus

 

I think it's wrong that the newspaper publishes this information though regardless of what VA's paranoia.