Gray Beard Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 50 turnovers in the last 2 years with Sanchez. They had to call timeout for substituting one play on offense because they couldnt figure out how to do that.... in the NFL Fitz has been far from a sure thing each week, The absolute mess the Jets trotted out each week was a joke and now they are the hook for 8 million for a guy that is laughed at on every message board, every ESPN segment, every team meeting, every GM conversation in the league. They traded for Tebow which was totally ineffective after hyping that up to epic proportions. and now McElroy is supposed to save them? Bills fans would be burning down the stadium if that was our solution I think the "Butt Fumble" was the last straw. Talk about turning a bad situation into a laughingstock! Neither Sanchez nor Fitz are QBs that a team can build around, but I would rather have Fitz. When it comes to getting the QB for the future, is it better that the Jets tried and failed, or that the Bills didn't try when they coulda shoulda last year? I know in many draft related posts, I was convinced that the Bills would take a second rounder to sit behind Fitz for a year, and I was surprised when they didn't. Ironically, when the Jets thought that Sanchez was their guy, they still went out and got McElroy. That's the type of move I was sure the Bills would make. I guess I am REALLY not the smartest guy in the room.
peterpan Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 Jets win easy. You forgot the Jets went for Manning, didnt land him, then for no reason gave Sanchese a huge contract even though he played like crap all last season. Then trade for Tebow, only to stick with Sancheese for wayyyyyy too long, likely to avoid playing Tebow. Then, with Tebow hurt, they finally bench the Cheese for McElroy, who goes 5-7 and leads them on a td drive to win a game at Ariz 7-6. This was the perfect opportunity to skip Tebow and play McElroy buy saying they are going to stick with what works. But isntead they went back to Cheese only to bench him again AND skip over their 2nd stringer creating more drama. Couldnt have been handled worse
truth on hold Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 At least they went for Manning , it didnt work out because he chose Denver. Extending Sanchez was a way of consoling/giving a vote of confidence afterwards. 9ers did same thing with smith when they failed to land manning too
CSBill Posted December 22, 2012 Posted December 22, 2012 I didn't even read your post, just the title, but there has never been a QB situation handled worse than the current NYJ debacle. what he said!
truth on hold Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) ur crazy if you think fitz doesnt have value in this league as a starter. at least ten teams every season would take him over the starter they already have. theres only so many people on the planet that can play that position at that level so even if your at the bottom of that list youre still a commodity that can be dealt. fitz has that value, sanchez doesnt I see no chance of that. Not heralded coming into NFL, would be on his 4th team, horrible record as a starter, pretty much understood he doesnt have an NFL arm. Cant imagine any team getting excited about giving him the ball. Sanchez would only be on his second team, 1st round pick, winning record as starter, 2x deep into playoffs, better physical skills, 5 yrs younger ... much better chance of getting another shot somewhere else Edited December 23, 2012 by Joe_the_6_pack
benderbender Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 Everyone and their mom knew Tebow was a bad idea. At least one QB would be alienated. How they managed to piss off 2/3 of their QBs is just hilarious. That being said, any one of their 3 QBs could outperform Fitz in accuracy and the deep ball.
NoSaint Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) At least they went for Manning , it didnt work out because he chose Denver. Extending Sanchez was a way of consoling/giving a vote of confidence afterwards. 9ers did same thing with smith when they failed to land manning too Alex smith was a free agent they gave a short, relatively modest deal to. That's a very different thing. Sanchez was under contract And thinking they had a shot at manning was laughable and a big error in the first place - then letting it go public.... Terrible. Edited December 23, 2012 by NoSaint
Pondslider Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 10 teams that would definitely take Fitzpatrick? New England - Nope New York Jets - Nope Miami - Nope Buffalo YUP Pittsburgh - Nope Baltimore - Nope Cleveland - Nope Cincinnati - Nope Houston - Nope Indianapolis - Nope Jacksonville - Nope Tennessee - Nope Dallas - Nope New York Giants - Nope Philadelphia - Nope Washington - Nope Green Bay - Nope Chicago - Nope Minnesota - Possibly but probably want upgrade from Ponder, so nope. Detroit - Nope Atlanta - Nope New Orleans - Nope Tampa Bay - Nope Carolina - Nope San Francisco - Nope Seattle - Nope St. Louis - Nope Arizona - Maybe? Probably his best chance if he gets cut by the Bills. They are starting a 6th round rookie this week, so it's possible that they would take a mediocre veteran for a little while. So generously, we'll call it a yup. Even teams that haven't gotten great QB play this year have at least drafted a guy recently (Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Tennessee, Carolina, Miami) that they are attempting to groom. I don't think any of those teams would take Fitzpatrick as their starter over the potential of their young player.
DFITZ1 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Posted December 23, 2012 Great comments. Seems the consensus is that the Jets FO handled their QB situation the worse. Of course neither FO deserves accolades. It seems the Jets handled the situationt more like the Marx brothers than the Rooney brothers, and the Bills simply did nothing meaningful, basically guilty of ignorance. You almost long for the days of Flutie vs Johnson.
reddogblitz Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 I'm saying Jets because with their mismanaged QB they did get to AFC Championship game 2 years in a row.
tennesseeboy Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 The Jets. They had two reasonable alternatives to a failiing Sanchez and didn't go with either at the time it could have made a difference. The Bills made a Fitz commitment and had no real back-up or contingency plan. On the other hand at lease Ryan HAD a contingency (which he didn't use) and Chan and Nix failed to put any contingency in place.
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