sodbuster Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 I'm not even anti gun but your reasoning is terrible. You want to say it is to protect your family from robbers etc. fine with me and I have no issue with you. Threaten and try to reason murdering police officers?!?! This line of thinking hurts your cause waaaayyyyy more than it helps... disagree. this was exactly the intention for the second amendment. the constitution is an agreement, a contract between the public and those they choose to lead them. it gives the public the teeth to ensure that their leaders keep their end of the bargain. when they fail to keep their end of the bargain...
drinkTHEkoolaid Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 disagree. this was exactly the intention for the second amendment. the constitution is an agreement, a contract between the public and those they choose to lead them. it gives the public the teeth to ensure that their leaders keep their end of the bargain. when they fail to keep their end of the bargain... Exactly. It is the right of the governed to be able to bear and own arms. An armed population would prevent a tyrannical government who might be tempted to further restrict their rights and enforcing a monarchy or socialist type government. That was exactly what the founding fathers intended to prevent happening.
Fingon Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Whether you like it or not...it's pretty retarded to go around talking about giving up your life and killing yourself and potentially a police officer... If they come door to door taking guns then people will do it. Have you ever heard the expression "from my cold dead hands"? I don't even own a gun, but if it were to come to gun confiscation I would expect most owners would defend their rights.
dayman Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) LOL. Tasker talking about killing police officers. Others talking about actually being able to overthrow the government...if our military comes for us it's over...there is no gun that will save you. Stupid. Also the idea that I would just die before I give a certain type of mag or gun...lmfao Edited January 15, 2013 by SameOldBills
sodbuster Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 honestly I wouldn't shoot anybody, but I wouldn't mind sitting in jail over it, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. there probably aren't enough cells for all of us. LOL. Tasker talking about killing police officers. Others talking about actually being able to overthrow the government...if our military comes for us it's over...there is no gun that will save you. Stupid. Also the idea that I would just die before I give a certain type of mag or gun...lmfao if you weren't so dense, you would realize it isn't about the mag or gun.
D521646 Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Holy sheet! I am both disgusted and scared by your p.o.v. on this topic. I don't think you have to worry about the cops kicking your door down to come get your guns. The fact that you think this concerns me. The right to bear arms was very very important in the Bill of Rights. It help insure protection from invading countries or our own government. This was the late 1700's. Since then the U.S. Military has become the world's best, if they want to come take over your house guess what they will. However why in the world would they ever do that? Do you think another country will invade us? Our military would handle that - not you with your mini arsenal. I'm not even anti gun but your reasoning is terrible. You want to say it is to protect your family from robbers etc. fine with me and I have no issue with you. Threaten and try to reason murdering police officers?!?! This line of thinking hurts your cause waaaayyyyy more than it helps... I let it slide the first time but if you're the smartest man in the room it's upon not apon Ya know those backwards gun toting Afghanistanians have fended off two world powers in the last 30 years. They don't have tanks or cannon either, just Ak 47's and a few rocket propelled grendades, but yet, both Russia, and now the US are leaving their country. Sure Russia and the US inflicted great pain to the those nasty despots, but they STILL have their country. Last time I checked, the US was much larger, provided much more cover, and we're free to associate. If the US military had the stomach for armed assault on its own people, I suspect it wouldn't last too long, and I can assure you that it wouldn't last anywhere near as long as Iraq or Afghanistan. You don't have to win an all out head to head rebellion, you just need to make a point, scramble a few eggs and you'll be eating your omlet in no time. Tim-
dayman Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) if you weren't so dense, you would realize it isn't about the mag or gun. It's about the freedom? I'll kill a cop, die myself, for the freedom! I'm a hero. Point is this sort of rhetoric is retarded and probably dangerous. Edited January 15, 2013 by SameOldBills
Jim in Anchorage Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Man am I glad I got out of that state. Any of you New Yorkers going to offer To sell me your now illegal guns? Paying 10 cents on the dollar.
sodbuster Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 It's about the freedom? I'll kill a cop, die myself, for the freedom! I'm a hero. Point is this sort of rhetoric is retarded and probably dangerous. if everybody thought like you in 1775, this forum would be dedicated to a different kind of football.
dayman Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 if everybody thought like you in 1775, this forum would be dedicated to a different kind of football. This is 1775... Look that sort of rhetoric is completely retarded. You don't like the law...B word about how stupid it is and why it will do nothing and how it is unjust...don't get all hot and talk about how you will die and kill others...
D521646 Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 if everybody thought like you in 1775, this forum would be dedicated to a different kind of football. Truth is that most at that time did NOT support the rebellion, it wasn't until Lexington that people started to believe. Tim-
dayman Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Grandiose thinking...me talking about killing people is alike to 1775 rebellion...lol Once again...it's stupid. It's trash that cycles through internet forums, talk radio, and cable news...and one day some retarded redneck ass hole will kill a police officer and leave a bunch of kids w/ out a father b/c he got worked up and thought he was George Washington.
sodbuster Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 This is 1775... Look that sort of rhetoric is completely retarded. You don't like the law...B word about how stupid it is and why it will do nothing and how it is unjust...don't get all hot and talk about how you will die and kill others... you're right, it isn't 1775, but human nature doesn't change. as the adage goes, those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. DOOMED.
Fezmid Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 When the patriotic rhetoric reaches this level, there's no room for rational thought. Gotta let these overly-emotional gun folks calm down for 3-5 days. Calm down for 3-5 days? You mean like the lawmakers were obligated to do before passing the law, but decided to short circuit in the name of "protecting the children?"
IDBillzFan Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 LOL. Tasker talking about killing police officers. Others talking about actually being able to overthrow the government...if our military comes for us it's over...there is no gun that will save you. Stupid. Also the idea that I would just die before I give a certain type of mag or gun...lmfao On the upside, we are grateful that people like you are here just in case. You remind me of the two guys running from tiger. One guy says "I don't know how we can outrun him," and the other points out, "I don't need to outrun him. I only need to outrun you." Thanks for being easy to outrun.
Gene Frenkle Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 As I told you before, good for you and your law. Now come enforce it by visiting gun violence apon me and my family. I promise to make a few of your children fatherless as a reward for your reckless tyranny. I guess you were right. Only outlaws will have guns.
dayman Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) On the upside, we are grateful that people like you are here just in case. You remind me of the two guys running from tiger. One guy says "I don't know how we can outrun him," and the other points out, "I don't need to outrun him. I only need to outrun you." Thanks for being easy to outrun. LOL that quote has nothing to do with anything I'm saying people shouldn't go nuts with the kill cops and die myself rhetoric, b/c in reality...that's a bad idea. Your going to outrun me by proclaiming you will die and kill others? Then what...laws effect me but not you? No. Anyone that wants to beat their chest should target their anger at real arguments about the law...not threats of violence. Edited January 15, 2013 by SameOldBills
Gene Frenkle Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 Calm down for 3-5 days? You mean like the lawmakers were obligated to do before passing the law, but decided to short circuit in the name of "protecting the children?" I actually meant when you're all finished with your collective period. Remember when the bleeding hearts were getting all emotional and irrational in the days following the shooting? The hypocrisy is thick today.
TakeYouToTasker Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) LOL. Tasker talking about killing police officers. Others talking about actually being able to overthrow the government...if our military comes for us it's over...there is no gun that will save you. Stupid. Also the idea that I would just die before I give a certain type of mag or gun...lmfao First of all, epic reading comprehension fail and an introduction of a poorly constructed strawman. Secondly, when you think about the protection of your rights I offer you something to consider: The Freedom of Speech is not protected by the Constitution, the Congress, or the Supreme Court. Nor is it protected by your voice or your opinion. Similarly, your Freedom of the Press and your Right to Peaceably Assemble or The Freedom of Associate are not safeguarded by the pen and your desire to spend time with others of your choosing respectively. Your Freedom of Religion is not shielded by your faith. Your Right to Travel is not insured by your legs. Your Right to Vote is not guarenteed by your ballot. And even more to the point... your Right to Bear Arms is not protected by the Second Amendment. All of these rights we hold dear, every last solitary one of them, are defended by guns and the men and women willing to use them in that defense, who value the concept of freedom for their children more than they value their own lives. I guess you were right. Only outlaws will have guns. Men championing freedom cannot logically be outlaws under any just system of government. Likewise, no despotic government can logically be considered valid in their attempts to impose law. Edited January 16, 2013 by TakeYouToTasker
Gary M Posted January 15, 2013 Posted January 15, 2013 First of all, epic reading comprehension fail and an introduction of a poorly constructed strawman. Secondly, when you think about the protection of your rights I offer you something to consider: The Freedom of Speech is not protected by the Constitution, the Congress, or the Supreme Court. Nor is it protected by your voice or your opinion. Similarly, your Freedom of the Press and your Right to Peaceably Assemble or The Freedom of Associate are not safeguarded by the pen and your desire to spend time with others of your choosing respectively. Your Freedom of Religion is not shieldeded by your faith. Your Right to Travel is not insured by your legs. Your Right to Vote is not guarenteed by your ballot. And even more to the point... your Right to Bear Arms is not protected by the Second Amendment. All of these rights we hold dear, every last solitary one of them, are defended by guns and the men and women willing to use them in that defense, who value the concept of freedom for their children more than they value their own lives. Men championing freedom cannot logically be outlaws under any just system of government. Likewise, no despotic government can logically be considered valid in their attempts to impose law.
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