JPS Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 In posting in another thread, the thought occurred to me that Nix has failed to hit on even one draft pick. It may be a bit extreme, but maybe not. Who, for sure, was a good draft pick and a good value in the draft? I think everyone has warts and excuses and I'm not sure I could name one. I'm not taking about a guy who has some value (spiller). I'm talking about a guy to hang your hat on. A cornerstone pick. Three years. Twenty some picks. Optimists might come up with 3 or 4. I struggle to say there's 1 Budduh Nix draft pick I can't live without.
CarolinaBill Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Spiller is a home run pick, if Chan didnt criminally underutilize him.
BillsVet Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Well, if you evaluate the 2010 draft given their 3 seasons in the NFL, only Spiller is a starter on the team. Troup may never come back and wasn't starting before the injury in their former defensive scheme. Carrington's claim to fame is blocking kicks, Easley occassionally doesn't dress, and Moats is a role player. That draft really gave them little, especially at the key positions of QB, WR, OT, CB, and DE. 2011 is shaping up much the same. Dareus is underwhelming, A. Williams toward bust status, Sheppard is strictly a 2 down LB who can't cover, Searcy may see more time when/if Wilson is cut at SS, and Hairston is a backup type. Nix's first 2 drafts are not consistent with being a top 5 talent evaluator. They are the mark of someone who doesn't back up his big mouth, but right now Spiller is his best pick.
JPPT1974 Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 As Spiller looks like he could help the team. And that he meaning Nix, needs to find that draft pick as he has yet to hit a home run on them. Hopefully just if Gailey is here in 2013, Spiller could be one that would help revive the team. Just one of many needs.
Omar Little Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Spiller is the only "wow" selection so far, but Nix's handpicked genius of a coach hasn't used him properly; ergo, to some extent, his talents have gone to waste.
SRivRoc Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Right now, even thought many thought he was a bust...it seems to be spiller. But mark my words right here! I believe stephon Gilmore and Cordy Glenn will both be cornerstone licks five years down the road. In my opinion Gilmore will be a shutdown corner amongst revis and Peterson while Glenn could draw comparisons to pace and Ogden GO BILLS Super Bowl or Bust!!!
Omar Little Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Right now, even thought many thought he was a bust...it seems to be spiller. But mark my words right here! I believe stephon Gilmore and Cordy Glenn will both be cornerstone licks five years down the road. In my opinion Gilmore will be a shutdown corner amongst revis and Peterson while Glenn could draw comparisons to pace and Ogden GO BILLS Super Bowl or Bust!!! So Gilmore will be the best CB in the league and Glenn will become a legendary, Canton-bound tackle? I like both of those guys so far, but you're going overboard with those projections.
JPS Posted December 19, 2012 Author Posted December 19, 2012 Let's not forget that Spiller is one of the worst RBs in the league at pass-pro. He's shown a few flashes, but I don't put him in the slam dunk elite RB category. On a good team, he'd be great. On a bad team, he's good. I can't fault you guys on Spiller. Rather have JPP, but that's Hindsight's territory.
Meathead Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 i still think dareus was a great pick. he was awesome before his family tragedy. i expect him to get things straight in his head and be an utter force next season
ny33 Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Right now, even thought many thought he was a bust...it seems to be spiller. But mark my words right here! I believe stephon Gilmore and Cordy Glenn will both be cornerstone licks five years down the road. In my opinion Gilmore will be a shutdown corner amongst revis and Peterson while Glenn could draw comparisons to pace and Ogden GO BILLS Super Bowl or Bust!!! Gilmore is a completely different CB, nor has he been particularly good this season. Revis and Peterson were excellent toward the end of their rookie years. Gilmore will be decent, but his ceiling is a Cortland-Finnegan type.
Saint Doug Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Out of 3 full drafts, Spiller is the only pick he really nailed. That said, we really can't judge this year's draft class yet, but the point still stands. There's some picks from this year's draft class that are looking to be fantastic picks, they're just not playing for the Bills. Eli Manning. But this was just a knee-jerk pick so they could deal him to the NYG. He was basically picking Manning for them. He never intended Manning to play a down for SD. Edited December 19, 2012 by kas23
mattsox Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Spiller is a home run pick, if Chan didnt criminally underutilize him. Agreed. We didn't need him at the time, but He was definitely the best!
KOKBILLS Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 Spiller is the best pick so far...Even though it was a dumb move IMHO... I think in time Cordy Glenn could be right up there with the Spiller pick...We'll see...
Like A Mofo Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 i still think dareus was a great pick. he was awesome before his family tragedy. i expect him to get things straight in his head and be an utter force next season I agree with this 100 percent
JPS Posted December 19, 2012 Author Posted December 19, 2012 Every pick has warts. We want. We think. We hope. But can Spiller play a whole season as a feature back without getting himself or his QB hurt? Want.Think.Hope. Will Dareus rebound? WTH. After further thought, I'm starting to give consideration to Carrington. He has showed more this year than Dareus.
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 I think Nigel Bradham will be his best pick according to the round he was drafted in... This guy has London Fletcher written all over him...
Big Turk Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Carrington is turning into a pretty good DT...he has been making a lot of plays and causing havoc in the backfield when he has been in the game, not to mention his kick blocking ability... Edited December 19, 2012 by matter2003
Homey D. Clown Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 CJ Spiller. I have said it from Day 1 he will be one to remember.
KOKBILLS Posted December 19, 2012 Posted December 19, 2012 i still think dareus was a great pick. he was awesome before his family tragedy. i expect him to get things straight in his head and be an utter force next season I don't think Dareus can be considered a great pick (so far) under any form of evaluation...He's underachieved, playing in the middle of one of the worst NFL Defenses (especially vs the run) in the entire NFL...Add to that fact The Bills passed on no less than 5 players who are among the very best at their position in the entire NFL in favor of Dareus...How can Dareus be considered a good pick? I just don't get it??? It was a good pick on Draft day, but that's only because most Scouts (just like The Bills Scouts) over valued Dareus, and under valued guys like Watt and Aldon Smith... Maybe Dareus will one day be a good pick...But definitely not unless he gets serious about his weight...He needs to be around 315-320...And from this point on he's got a wicked uphill climb to match some of the guys in his Draft Class...A HUGE uphill climb...
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