Coach Tuesday Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I don't disagree with the OP's premise, and I read the article. HOWEVER, if you have a mentally ill kid with violent tendencies, you should not be a "gun enthusiast" and you should not harbor a stockade of guns in your home. If she had not been killed I would hope she would've been jailed for involuntary manslaughter.
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I don't disagree with the OP's premise, and I read the article. HOWEVER, if you have a mentally ill kid with violent tendencies, you should not be a "gun enthusiast" and you should not harbor a stockade of guns in your home. If she had not been killed I would hope she would've been jailed for involuntary manslaughter. BINGO! I know they still will get the guns... Especially being of the financial means (the mother was awarded 250k a year in alimony back in the 2009 divorce)... BUT, it makes it that much harder to be opportunistic. The shooter was thwarted trying to purchase a weapon on his own...
meazza Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Wow... Just looked it up... It has never been overturned... Yikes... You know what I am getting @? For the good and health of the state, can freedoms of the mentally ill be protected under the 14th. Interesting. Just think of the documented people being on meds... Wnat if they stop taking those meds... And how do you really define the truly mentally ill? Look up Guy Turcotte. A man who murdered his two children. One psychiatrist diagnosed him as being criminally responsible and the other doesn't. Putting a lock down on a bunch of people based on a soft science that is extremely flawed doesn't seem like the appropriate way to run a society.
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 And how do you really define the truly mentally ill? Look up Guy Turcotte. A man who murdered his two children. One psychiatrist diagnosed him as being criminally responsible and the other doesn't. Putting a lock down on a bunch of people based on a soft science that is extremely flawed doesn't seem like the appropriate way to run a society. I smell what you are grilling... These gut wrenching incidents are getting worse and more over the top! What is next, preschool? It is tough with a few children but, 20! The 8 adults, even get overshadowed in this tragedy... Almost forgotten. :-(
LeviF Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 you should not harbor a stockade of guns in your home. At the very least lock the damn things up. Did this idiot even have a gun safe?
KD in CA Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I don't disagree with the OP's premise, and I read the article. HOWEVER, if you have a mentally ill kid with violent tendencies, you should not be a "gun enthusiast" and you should not harbor a stockade of guns in your home. If she had not been killed I would hope she would've been jailed for involuntary manslaughter. Exactly. This moronic woman is at fault in this case. How !@#$ing stupid do you have to be to allow a kid so !@#$ed up she needed to pull him out of school access to multiple weapons??
Wacka Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Lot of mentally ill libs tweeting death threats to the NRA.
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Lot of mentally ill libs tweeting death threats to the NRA. Whewww! @ First I thought you were gonna say mentally ill libs Tweeting death threats to the 1%ers making 250k in annual alimony payments! Thank God... JUST KIDDING... No need to get everybody crazy...
Meathead Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Tonawanda man, 22, charged in stabbing death A 22-year-old man who was described by close friends as badly in need of mental health treatment was arrested early Sunday in connection with the stabbing death of a woman in the Sheridan-Parkside housing development in the Town of Tonawanda. According to four neighbors who were close friends of Serwinowski’s, the alleged killer has had trouble for years with drugs and criminal activity, but all four said they have never known him to be violent. Serwinowski has bounced from home to home in recent years, neighbors said, and has spent much of the past 18 months living in Sheridan-Parkside with a family friend, Hazel Masten, 43. In recent weeks, Serwinowski has been depressed and at times has made suicidal remarks, stating that he was going to kill himself and “take other people with him,” a shaken Masten told The Buffalo News. “One of his girlfriends is a young woman in Kenmore who is going to have his baby any day now,” Masten said. “She told me [sunday] that she and the Tonawanda police have tried to get him admitted into mental hospitals for the past two weeks. She told me no hospital would admit him.” http://www.buffalonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20121216/CITYANDREGION/121219357/1010 a local story with relevance
B-Man Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 What If Nothing or Nobody is to Blame for Adam Lanza? Guns, Video Games, Autism or Authorities By Ron Fournier What if there is nobody or nothing to blame for Adam Lanza's heinous acts? Other than Lanza, of course. What if school security and the school psychiatrist kept an eye on Lanza since his freshman year? The Wall Street Journal has a compelling narrative about the red flags addressed. What if he had a form of autism that has little or no link to violent behavior? Lanza may have had Asperger's syndromebut, even so, that is not a cause. What if it's too simple to lay the massacre at the feet of the gun lobby? Reader Larry Kelly tweets that shaming Aspies "makes about as much sense at stigmatizing the NRA. Pick an enemy ... any enemy. Let outrage and fear rule." What if Lanza wasn't provoked by video games? David Axelrod, a close friend an adviser of President Obama, tweeted last night: "In NFL post-game: an ad for shoot 'em up video game. All for curbing weapons of war. But shouldn't we also quit marketing murder as a game." When I asked whether he was laying groundwork for a White House initiative, Axelrod said no: "Just one man's observation." A senior administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said today that Axelrod was not a stalking horse for Obama on this issue. What if Lanza's mother did everything she could, short of keeping her guns out her adult son's reach? What if he wasn't bullied? What if there is nobody or nothing to blame?Would that make this inexplicable horror unbearable? What if we didn't rush to judgement? What if we didn't waste our thoughts, prayers and actions on assigning blame for the sake of mere recrimination? What if we calmly and ruthlessly learned whatever lessons we can from the massacre -- and prevented the next one? What if it wasn't one thing, but everything, that set off Lanza? http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/what-if-nothing-or-nobody-is-to-blame-for-adam-lanza-guns-video-games-autism-or-authorities-20121217
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