Bronc24 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Really? You do realize that was precisely what happened. Why is it dumb to think that it doesn't still happen? So....to get this straight...what was happening is that the Pats* were able to tap into the communication system so that the coach could talk Brady through every play, like he's a robot. Brady's success came from his ability to synthesize the coach's words and make a split second throw based on his coach telling him who is open. That's what you are saying. You should have stopped with your first statement. Are you effing kidding me? Have you played the damn game, let alone the QB position? Do you know what SPYGATE was? Step back, take a deep breath, do some research, then come back and talk. I'll wait. Wow.
Storm Front Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Go read it then come back and we'll talk NFL football, not 911 conspiracies.
Bronc24 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 I've read the excerpts you are referring to. I shall reiterate: If you or anyone pins Brady's success on an alleged voice in his ear, you know little to nothing about the game of football and the quarterbacking position.
49er Fan Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 If Brady is truly the football version of Milli Vanilli there has to be more proof than "they win too many games to not be cheating"
Bronc24 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 If Brady is truly the football version of Milli Vanilli there has to be more proof than "they win too many games to not be cheating" Yep. The coaches, allegedly, have installed electrical impulse switches to his arm as well. This is why he has an accurate cannon.
NoSaint Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 So....to get this straight...what was happening is that the Pats* were able to tap into the communication system so that the coach could talk Brady through every play, like he's a robot. Brady's success came from his ability to synthesize the coach's words and make a split second throw based on his coach telling him who is open. That's what you are saying. You should have stopped with your first statement. Are you effing kidding me? Have you played the damn game, let alone the QB position? Do you know what SPYGATE was? Step back, take a deep breath, do some research, then come back and talk. I'll wait. Wow. and more than likely, this was a guy up in the booth telling a guy down on the sideline to radio it to him.... unless josh mcdaniels is able to make all the reads from the sideline that brady cant from the pocket.
Bronc24 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 and more than likely, this was a guy up in the booth telling a guy down on the sideline to radio it to him.... unless josh mcdaniels is able to make all the reads from the sideline that brady cant from the pocket. Yep...all too unbelievable. Brady is one of the best ever. Period.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) I've read the excerpts you are referring to. I shall reiterate: If you or anyone pins Brady's success on an alleged voice in his ear, you know little to nothing about the game of football and the quarterbacking position. Answer this question Is anyone questioning Brady himself? I beleive many are saying that we question the coach, the team, how it functions and how they have been favored since 9-11-2001. The season EVERYONE wanted the PATRIOTS to win. Yep...all too unbelievable. Brady is one of the best ever. Period. Do you have a Brady shrine in you man cave? Edited December 12, 2012 by BillsFan-4-Ever
Storm Front Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Josh McDaniels was a defensive player/coach who became Brady's QB coach in NE even though he had no QB or offensive experience. He was later promoted to Offensive Coordinator under the Pats. Labeled a young offensive mastermind, McDaniels was hired as head coach of the Broncos where he went out of his way to obtain Matt Cassel, a player who was entrenched in the Pats' "system." As head coach of the Broncos, McDaniels also hired one of the fellows from Spygate who taped Pats' opponents. Later, the two were involved in their own mini-Spygate scandal, which was quietly swept under the rug by the NFL and the media. McDaniels once admitted that the Pats actually practiced cheating. It is not inconceivable that the Pats would have the whole thing down to a science. Edited December 12, 2012 by distortions
Mr. WEO Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Go read it then come back and we'll talk NFL football, not 911 conspiracies. Answer this question Is anyone questioning Brady himself? I beleive many are saying that we question the coach, the team, how it functions and how they have been favored since 9-11-2001. The season EVERYONE wanted the PATRIOTS to win. Do you have a Brady shrine in you man cave? Nice! A 9/11 tie in---way to close the crazy circle! So the pats were allowed to win the Sb that year because of 9/11 and because they are called the "patriots"? Easily the dumbest theory yet.
Bronc24 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Josh McDaniels was a defensive player/coach who became Brady's QB coach in NE even though he had no QB or offensive experience. He was later promoted to Offensive Coordinator under the Pats. Labeled a young offensive mastermind, McDaniels was hired as head coach of the Broncos where he went out of his way to obtain Matt Cassel, a player who was entrenched in the Pats' "system." As head coach of the Broncos, McDaniels also hired one of the fellows from Spygate who taped Pats' opponents. Later, the two were involved in their own mini-Spygate scandal, which was quietly swept under the rug by the NFL and the media. McDaniels once admitted that the Pats actually practiced cheating. The Pats have the whole thing down to a science. Yes. Videotaping other teams signals and defenses along with down and distance. So yes, they probably often knew what defense others were in. There's no disputing that, nor it's a doubt there's an advantage. But that's not what you said. Nor is it a guarantee of success. We could implement the same thing with the Bills and there is no way Fitzpatrick even dreams of the success Brady enjoys. Why? Because Brady is an elite talent. Fitz is not. You still have to make the read and execute the throw.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Nice! A 9/11 tie in---way to close the crazy circle! So the pats were allowed to win the Sb that year because of 9/11 and because they are called the "patriots"? Easily the dumbest theory yet. Now now WEO. I didn't say they wom the SB that year because of 9-11. I said that because of 9-11 Americans wanted Patriotism to rule and what better form that the Partiots. As to conspiracies ...... :D When was the TUCK rule used? The 2001 AFC divisional playoff game, January 19, 2002. Edited December 12, 2012 by BillsFan-4-Ever
Storm Front Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 The Bills would not have the same success unless they were able to hire Ernie Adams away from the Patriots: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernie_Adams_(American_football) It is doubtful that Robert Krafty would ever let this happen.
Bronc24 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 It's amazing how much credit Brady gets. Yeah, he is really goood. But his offensive line is the thing that has made him a hall of fame player. Really, I can't tell you how many times I've seen him stand back there for 7-8 seconds and throw a TD. Brady doesn't matter. You can put Matt Cassell back in there and the Pats will win just as easily. I sure didn't see any difference between the two when Cassell filled in for Brady in '08! And Cassell was a rookie that year who never started a game in college. It's easy to be a good QB when you have someone telling you in your ear which receiver is open as well as the other team's defensive schemes. Read above to your posted question. Yes. Answer this question Is anyone questioning Brady himself? I beleive many are saying that we question the coach, the team, how it functions and how they have been favored since 9-11-2001. The season EVERYONE wanted the PATRIOTS to win. Do you have a Brady shrine in you man cave? lol. Are you serious, or is this a troll post? I'll respond, if only to entertain myself. I cheered when Brady went down for the season and hope he retires tomorrow. I am sick of playing him. But as a football fan, not just a Bills homer, I appreciate the talent and the will to win he brings every effing week. Did you see when he ran for that first down? He fired the crowd and his team up. I pray that, sometime in my lifetime, we have a QB here with 75% of his talent, because it will be 100% better than the crap we have trotted out there for over a decade. If you can't appreciate that talent, that's entirely your prerogative.
Mr. WEO Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Now now WEO. I didn't say they wom the SB that year because of 9-11. I said that because of 9-11 Americans wanted Patriotism to rule and what better form that the Partiots. As to conspiracies ...... :D When was the TUCK rule used? The 2001 AFC divisional playoff game, January 19, 2002. Yeah, that was the dumb part. And if you aren't saying 9/11 had anything to do with the pats winning that SB, what are you saying?
Storm Front Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Until the Pats system is exposed again or Belichick retires, the rest of the teams in the AFC East are fighting for a chance at the wild card every year. It is sad.
stevestojan Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Aaaaaaand, this thread went completely batshit crazy. Nice work, gents. Not sure what is crazier though, throwing 9/11 conspiracy theories into a football thread or not realizing Tom Brady as unquestionably one of the best QBs in the history of the game.
Bronc24 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Aaaaaaand, this thread went completely batshit crazy. Nice work, gents. Not sure what is crazier though, throwing 9/11 conspiracy theories into a football thread or not realizing Tom Brady as unquestionably one of the best QBs in the history of the game. My inclusion of the 9/11 book was to point out the absurdity of conspiracy theories....but then it took a turn for the worse...lol
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